EPTIt's a korean sc2 forum and I gotta say DK is pretty insane for stating that. I have to agree with Cloud
and DK really needs to wake up and see the real picture. At this rate, HOTS will never hit the sale floor until late
next year.
Two new interviews with David Kim (need translate) - Page 3
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styleworks79
United States127 Posts
It's a korean sc2 forum and I gotta say DK is pretty insane for stating that. I have to agree with Cloud and DK really needs to wake up and see the real picture. At this rate, HOTS will never hit the sale floor until late next year. | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On November 07 2012 01:02 wwowz wrote: I don't think it's not that bad neither Is this a triple negative?  | ||
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DJSub
Indonesia261 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10139 Posts
On November 07 2012 01:36 DJSub wrote: So top-level tournament racial spread and win ratios aren't too lop-sided? This guy is so incompetent. MLG and GSL were zerg, but OSL was Protoss. So he isn't wrong, 2-1 isn't a bad ratio in a game with two races. | ||
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Seiniyta
Belgium1815 Posts
On November 07 2012 01:26 aTnClouD wrote: How can he think the game is fine when people are leaving SC2 to watch League of Legends? There are serious issues that are shrinking the amount of people interested in the game and watching tournaments and all he can say is that the winrates and race distributions are fine. The incompetence and arrogance shown by David Kim make speechless every time. Seriously he's so bad at his job. You never fail to amuse me with your endless negativity. And if you actually would read the fucking interview you'd probably also have read that they are aware there's an issue with some matchup's. Especially in ZvP. However they also remark that across tournaments and the ladder the races that win seem pretty balanced. And any statistical prove that people are leaving SC2 to watch LoL? there was a small event not too long ago in Sweden which drew about 100k viewers fro SC2 which is a ton. Even the last MLG was doing quite well. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On November 07 2012 01:32 styleworks79 wrote: Everyone is talking about DK saying how sc2's balance was FINE in the beginning on playxp.com. It's a korean sc2 forum and I gotta say DK is pretty insane for stating that. I have to agree with Cloud and DK really needs to wake up and see the real picture. At this rate, HOTS will never hit the sale floor until late next year. They have time, but I'm not expecting later than April / June 2013 tbh | ||
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SuperYo1000
United States880 Posts
On November 07 2012 01:32 Cheekio wrote: That translation hints at possible Swarm Host buffs, which seems completely out of left field. I absolutely love having an option to control the pace of the game as zerg, but I can't imagine where they're getting their data from if fungal growth isn't on the chopping block and the issues with vipers aren't being looked at. Fungal growth has been getting a ton of flak at all levels of play, and blinding cloud in vT and vP is programmed to be ineffective vs anything that's not a tank or a structure. Units have melee range under the cloud, so the pathing AI simply tells them to walk to attack distance- which is out from under the cloud. You end up auto-splitting an enemy's marines for him. Doesnt it seem like 70% of there buffs or nerfs are out of left field? I think the most common post after any patch is "was that even an issue?" | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On November 07 2012 01:26 aTnClouD wrote: How can he think the game is fine when people are leaving SC2 to watch League of Legends? There are serious issues that are shrinking the amount of people interested in the game and watching tournaments and all he can say is that the winrates and race distributions are fine. The incompetence and arrogance shown by David Kim make speechless every time. Seriously he's so bad at his job. People will always leave older games for newer ones even if the new are inferior. >90% gamers are casuals and casuals get bored. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On November 07 2012 01:44 Cheerio wrote: People will always leave older games for newer ones even if the new are inferior. >90% gamers are casuals and casuals get bored. League of Legends is an older game than Starcraft 2, lol. No question that It's more casual friendly though ;o | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On November 07 2012 01:39 Seiniyta wrote: You never fail to amuse me with your endless negativity. And if you actually would read the fucking interview you'd probably also have read that they are aware there's an issue with some matchup's. Especially in ZvP. However they also remark that across tournaments and the ladder the races that win seem pretty balanced. And any statistical prove that people are leaving SC2 to watch LoL? there was a small event not too long ago in Sweden which drew about 100k viewers fro SC2 which is a ton. Even the last MLG was doing quite well. It isn't just about win rates. It is about the games themselves. During the 1-1-1 era, TvP win rates weren't that bad either. But it just wasn't fun to see whether the Terran could execute the 1-1-1 properly or whether the p could hold it. Also, not sure how he expects the Korean pros to try out HoTS and give feedback when all the big tournaments are all still running WoL and there is no definitive timeline for HoTS. Plus with patches every 2 weeks, how would they refine builds? Foreign pros have a lot more incentive because they stream and HoTS at the beginning gave them bigger stream numbers. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On November 07 2012 01:39 Seiniyta wrote: You never fail to amuse me with your endless negativity. And if you actually would read the fucking interview you'd probably also have read that they are aware there's an issue with some matchup's. Especially in ZvP. However they also remark that across tournaments and the ladder the races that win seem pretty balanced. And any statistical prove that people are leaving SC2 to watch LoL? there was a small event not too long ago in Sweden which drew about 100k viewers fro SC2 which is a ton. Even the last MLG was doing quite well. Everyone knows that, that has been standard Blizzard response since ever. And that kind of reasoning is retarded. According to that reasoning, Zergs having a 100% unloseable lategame would be perfectly balanced as long as a Terran 11 / 11 rax has a 50% win rate at the highest level. Tic-tac-toe is pretty balanced too, is it fun to watch? | ||
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McDrizzle
United States131 Posts
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
On November 07 2012 01:48 S_SienZ wrote: Everyone knows that, that has been standard Blizzard response since ever. And that kind of reasoning is retarded. According to that reasoning, Zergs having a 100% unloseable lategame would be perfectly balanced as long as a Terran 11 / 11 rax has a 50% win rate at the highest level. Tic-tac-toe is pretty balanced too, is it fun to watch? Stop being negative! | ||
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BAAEEMM
Germany412 Posts
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SarcasmMonster
3136 Posts
We are almost done designing the new units. Now we are considering to completely re-design several units such as Void-ray and Raven. Poor Voidray. Oracle and Tempest killed it. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On November 07 2012 01:52 SarcasmMonster wrote: Poor Voidray. Oracle and Tempest killed it. I think Void Rays being bad killed Void Rays, you only see it in WOL for 3 gate void ray all ins in PvT, and that build is barely used nowadays. Even stargate openers in PvZ are pure phoenix most of the time now, where as before you might see two void rays + 3 phoenix instead of 5 phoenix. | ||
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Seiniyta
Belgium1815 Posts
Exactly :D. Now more on point. I think why they haven't actually adressed this issue in Wings of Liberty is because they realized that it's a game design issue and can't simply be fixed with a patch. If you nerf the Infestor you cripple zerg, and other things have to be changed etc. I think that's why they're just focussing on HoTS instead and hoping to fix it there. | ||
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Skyro
United States1823 Posts
On November 07 2012 01:52 BAAEEMM wrote: Everything else but LoL having more players than SC2 would be a huge surprise because a) it's free and b) it's easier and thus more attractive to casual gamers than SC2. I don't understand why people always have to draw those comparisons. I don't care how many people are plaing LoL. As long as SC2 is a good game it will not die. Nuff said. People always say that but look at Korea where they log playtime at internet cafes where you pay by the hour, and LoL still is the most played game over there. It goes far deeper than just LoL being F2P. LoL is simply a much better game for casuals. SC1 was also far more attractive for casuals than SC2, so it isn't necessarily a genre thing either. | ||
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Atropin
Germany96 Posts
On November 07 2012 01:07 Psychobabas wrote: Blizzard could release a chicken strapped with a cannon for terran for all we know. That would be totally OP. | ||
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