Ministry of Win - Statement - Page 18

On September 14 2012 05:31 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:

Yes, I do understand it. I read it, still his fault. I'm sorry that fuzer isn't actually a smart person. He's an idiot. The end.

Let me add some more, he sent them money before a contract. That's all that needs to be said here.

On September 14 2012 05:50 Benjamin99 wrote:
I don't think they realize how effective pitchforks are versus kittens

On September 14 2012 05:50 Tula wrote:


I am sorry to say but the idiot here is you...

According to the official MoW statement there were two different contracts legally speaking, the provisional one (you pay X to stay here) and the written one. The entire fuzz is that MoW wanted to change from the provisional one to the written one, whereas Fuzer did not want to sign it without a lawyer (which is his right).

If MoW wanted him out, no problem don't continue the provisional contract for a second month, but that is NOT what they did. Instead they accepted his money (thereby continuing the arrangement) and then later threw him out.

The situation was sub-optimal from both sides, but it is also fairly common. I've rented a flat in a similar way (verbal agreement+money upfront, written contract 3-6 weeks later, one side writes it, sends it to the other side, they consult their lawyer etc.).

From a legal perspective there is only 1 idiot in this exchange, that is the guy who let someone into his house on a verbal basis without covering his angles first and then regretted that decision. Maybe MoW will learn their lesson, but frankly so far their behaviour hasn't really shown any remorse.

On September 14 2012 05:58 Timerly wrote:


Yeah, I can't get over the fact that they did that. That's just trying to insult everybody's intelligence by making it one of these "not very serious internet matters". What the actual fuck? They're messing with their primary customer base here.

On September 14 2012 06:14 kaokentake wrote:
so basically... you pay 600 a month to feel like you are a progamer... wow...

nothing against MoW, its fine to run a business i guess.. but no one intelligent should wanna stay there...

dont understand why anyone couldnt just do hardcore ladder practice as training for free... dont know anyone who is rank1 gm on any server that isnt pro status so that means ladder is fine practice.

acting like it isnt just means you cant get rank1 gm which means u probably arent good enough to be pro because you lose games against other crappy people on the ladder

On September 14 2012 05:58 Timerly wrote:


Yeah, I can't get over the fact that they did that. That's just trying to insult everybody's intelligence by making it one of these "not very serious internet matters". What the actual fuck? They're messing with their primary customer base here.

2. Ministry of Win does not enforce on players the amount of hours they have to stream. It is a part of a business contract and both parties negotiate an agreement. We understand that players have come to the house for the sole purpose of perfecting their skills and thus we do not exact the agreed hours to the last detail. Most players view streaming as a key income source for themselves and so we give them the best opportunity to profit from it. Thanks to the strategic partnership between the Ministry of Win and Twitch.tv the CPM ratio is superior to that of an individual streaming on one’s own. Furthermore the players that had no Twitch.tv partnership prior to joining the house obtain a possibility to start monetizing their exposure instantly omitting the regular Twitch.tv partnership acquireing process.