[Resolved] Kespa, GOM, ESF dispute - Page 107

On August 28 2012 04:05 LighT. wrote:
90 players to the Code A qualifiers huh...
Kespa President:
"Destroy them"

On August 28 2012 04:05 LighT. wrote:
90 players to the Code A qualifiers huh...
Kespa President:
"Destroy them"

On August 28 2012 04:05 LighT. wrote:
90 players to the Code A qualifiers huh...
Kespa President:
"Destroy them"

On August 28 2012 05:41 maybenexttime wrote:


Maybe you should inform yourself instead. Most KeSPA teams participated for several seasons, various teams, at various times decided not to participate, mostly because they had already extremely packed schedules. To the point some teams were forbidding their players from participating in both MSL and OSL at the same time, in order to have time for PL. Despite that, EIGHT teams participated in season 3

GOMTV Classic was created way after SC2 was announced. It had English commentary despite the fact that there was rather small demand for that. It's not hard to figure out that with Classic, gretech wanted to set a foothold before transitioning to SC2 (which would have bigger international scene, hence English casting for Classic). Five teams wanted to participate in season 4. All despite the fact that Classic was far, far more prestigious than MSL, OSL or PL, and was not broadcasted on the TV.

If not participating in season 4 was politically motivated in case of some teams (which I find likely only for SKT, tbh), than gretech has only itself to blame - during season 3 they partnered up with blizzard, which war openly at was with KeSPA.

So let's sum up. Most KeSPA teams participated in Classic for 3 seasons, in a tournament with no TV coverage, poor production quality, no prestige and straining schedule. Half of them wanted to take part in season 4. Gretech teamed up with KeSPA's biggest enemy yet, which might've caused some teams to rethink their participation, and you're blaming KeSPA for that?

If you want to see how KeSPA making a politically motivated decision looks like, then look of IEG vs. OGN/MBC fiasco. All teams except those affiliated with OGN/MBC boycotted the individual leagues. The situation with Classic looks nothing like that.

So, really, stop making shit up.

On August 28 2012 06:33 jinorazi wrote:


thats an opinionated article and does leave out few points.
but i'm not saying it should be ignored, the esf was genuinely concerned of kespa's actions.
i read a korean blog article that criticized gretech for trying to have a piece of the pie that kespa brought up from scratch. gretech teaming up with blizzard as their big brother to protect them, gretech having "legitimate broadcasting rights". author states it justly failed for trying to steal away kespa's efforts.
just saying, there's many ways to look at things.

On August 28 2012 02:11 vesicular wrote:


It's also a common business practice almost everywhere in the world. You just don't hear about it as much since most businesses aren't in the entertainment industry and have forums of fans arguing over all of it.

What everyone is seeing is the dirty side to business that happens every day. Nothing really new happening here except for people who aren't used to watching it unfold.

On August 28 2012 06:53 Plansix wrote:


That is true. I work in the legal field and people pull stuff like what Kespa did all the time. Last minute strong arming is the name of the game and something you get used to. The difference is that there are no press releases about it and we keep it behind closed doors and sometimes from our clients. It is a thing you do, but don't broadcast to the world.

From my reading and following of the Korean scene, they seem to be far more public about these last minute show downs. I do not know for sure, but it feels that way from an outside observer. I could be wrong, but that is what is seems like.

On August 28 2012 05:28 GunPaladin wrote:


lol. I hope Flash and Jaedong get the two Code S seeds.

On August 28 2012 06:46 Grummler wrote:


So what is gretech stealing from kespa exactly? Talking about pies and stuff is always easy....

Right now kespa kets all the gsl/gstl stars in exchange for their proleage/starleague stars. Initially kespa tried to get the gsl stars - without offering anything in return. And gretech didn't even complain. The gsl stars themself stopped kespa.

For people who like pie:
It's is more like kespa is trying to steal the little sc2 cake gretech created while kespa ate their big bw pie.

For people who dont care:
OSL tomorrow is going to be awesome nonetheless =)

On August 28 2012 07:29 ILIVEFORAIUR wrote:
As much as I'd like to see the best Kespa players be the ones to get the seeds, I believe it is clearly in the best interest of both Kespa and GOM to give the seeds to S-class players, specifically Flash and Jaedong.

Hopefully, for the Korean scene at least, some dude will be flipping through the channels and see that Jaedong is playing Sc2 against MVP or something and decide to watch for a bit. The same thing might not have happened if, say, RoRo was playing against MVP.

On August 28 2012 07:33 dabom88 wrote:

Guys like Effort and Roro are better right now at SC2 though, so it's best to give the seeds to the ones that have proven themselves to be good in SC2.

Flash and Jaedong would be more of a ratings grab. Which, honestly, me and a lot of people would not mind. **** competitive play, I want fanservice.