Random and its place on the ladder - Page 38

People need to stop with the whole "random gets an unfair advantage" thing. If you meet a random player on ladder, they have the same MMR as you and the match is around 50-50 as to which way it will go. This is calculated from their previous results WHICH INCLUDE THE ADVANTAGE OF SPAWNING RANDOM.

THUS RANDOM IS ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR WITHIN THEIR MMR SCORE. You are balanced AFTER you include that fact, so you and your random opponent are still level, i.e. you are not at a disadvantage.

Edit: To clarify further for the hard-of-reading:
Any random opponent you meet will be slightly worse than you, which is compensated for by their random information advantage. Take this away by scouting and you are effectively trading a few minerals to force a straight-up game against someone worse than you.


Of course, if you're playing to improve that's no help. But let's hear no more of the "boo-hoo, its not fair, I'm at a disadvantage against random" rubbish.

People need to stop with the whole "random gets an unfair advantage" thing. If you meet a random player on ladder, they have the same MMR as you and the match is around 50-50 as to which way it will go. This is calculated from their previous results WHICH INCLUDE THE ADVANTAGE OF SPAWNING RANDOM.

THUS RANDOM IS ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR WITHIN THEIR MMR SCORE. You are balanced AFTER you include that fact, so you and your random opponent are still level, i.e. you are not at a disadvantage.

Edit: To clarify further for the hard-of-reading:
Any random opponent you meet will be slightly worse than you, which is compensated for by their random information advantage. Take this away by scouting and you are effectively trading a few minerals to force a straight-up game against someone worse than you.


Of course, if you're playing to improve that's no help. But let's hear no more of the "boo-hoo, its not fair, I'm at a disadvantage against random" rubbish.

On August 21 2012 00:35 falaakr wrote:
As a toss, i used to cheese every random i encountered, while kindly asking them to die as the fucking cheesers they are, even sometimes continuing after the game finished if they were bad.

Now i first ask their race (even adding a gl hf before) and play as i would if they answer, and only cheese+bm when they dont answer (or when they lie, but then the cheese is usually pretty bad, and they get *2 the bm for that).




Please tell me how you beat a cheeser (aka random player) that hatch first when you have to go gate first ? (especially on maps like daybreak)

Even if you're slightly better than him, you don't have the two ligue difference it takes to balance such a bo loss.

On August 21 2012 00:46 Zetter wrote:


When your opponent goes hatch first you can easily go nexus first. Especially on maps like daybreak.
If it's a four player map where you don't scout him first you chrono out 3 zealots and attack after the first two. (When he does hatch first, his lings will be very late)
Or you just expand after gateway. Since a gate and a forge cost exactly the same your expansion is down at the same time as with a ffe. And don't tell me you cannon rush players who go hatch first. Every decent player can hold that off and be ahead. But judging from your post, you don't seem to be on a level where strategy even matters.