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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 27 2012 09:53 GMT
#221
On July 27 2012 18:13 Teliko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 17:42 Probe1 wrote:
On July 27 2012 17:14 Teliko wrote:
On July 27 2012 17:07 metaStatic wrote:
never understood how blizzard could support colour mod despite modding being against the TOS
not to mention it is essentially hacking because it gives an unfair advantage to the person with the mod

Interested to know why you think the colour mod would give a player an advantage over others. Assuming you're not colour blind, do you genuinely have trouble differentiating between which units are yours and your enemies?


I know it wasn't directed at me but in zvz, yeah, it's happened before.


Fair enough. Would you have lost any games because of it? Say you played 100 ZvZ's with and without the team colour mod, do you think your win ratio would be increased directly because of the mod?

Eh, like maybe once out of ten games I blow because I mixed up how many lings each of us have without stronger color mod.
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DirtyBirD
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States239 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 10:08:15
July 27 2012 10:06 GMT
#222
Signed. I love the Stronger Team Colors mod. I don't know how many times I took my allies units for the other teams and accidentally killed his instead of their banelings. With this mod there's no more problems because everything is just so much easier to see and tell apart.
sMi.DirtyBirD
Zombo Joe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada850 Posts
July 27 2012 10:58 GMT
#223
are people seriously opposing mods?

shame on all of you, you are killing esports
I am Terranfying.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
July 27 2012 11:09 GMT
#224
On July 27 2012 19:58 Zombo Joe wrote:
are people seriously opposing mods?

shame on all of you, you are killing esports

SC2 as an eSport has done pretty well without mods so far.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
GPCyanide
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany32 Posts
July 27 2012 11:09 GMT
#225
signed. upvoted. Those voting for "stopping all kinds of modding" clearly don't understand that hackers won't be prevented for doing so in the long run. This is just bullshit.
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
July 27 2012 11:17 GMT
#226
Remember, hackers will ALWAYS find another way. So stopping this will just make the next hacks worse. Also Blizzard doesn't read these threads much so this should have been put in battle.net. Even though it is full of scrubs. =[
Luppa <3
QuantumChaos
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada37 Posts
July 27 2012 11:21 GMT
#227
Sorry folks but the opportunity to prevent hacking and exploitation will always trump the just for fun modding. Even the stronger team color mod isn't that necessary since red/blue are different enough you should be able to tell the difference. I think that mod is cool but Blizzard would (and should) choose game stability over pretty colors 100% of the time.
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 11:29:32
July 27 2012 11:26 GMT
#228
Please BlizzaRd - dont kill the modding abilty!!!!!!!.
*burp*
ArhK
Profile Joined July 2007
France287 Posts
July 27 2012 11:43 GMT
#229
On July 27 2012 20:21 QuantumChaos wrote:
Sorry folks but the opportunity to prevent hacking and exploitation will always trump the just for fun modding. Even the stronger team color mod isn't that necessary since red/blue are different enough you should be able to tell the difference. I think that mod is cool but Blizzard would (and should) choose game stability over pretty colors 100% of the time.


For fuck sake, stop spreading misinformation !!!!

This DOESN'T prevent hacking in ANY way.... Maphack stills works fine since they access the memory ingame, it is how bots and most cheats work.

This just annoys people. I personnaly use Stronger team color mod, and it is day and night for speed bane wars....
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 11:50:20
July 27 2012 11:45 GMT
#230
It's either E-sports or modding but not both. You can never trust client software changes.

If people want to play with the same possible conditions no mpq modding at all should be allowed or some system where blizzard checks for known mods with a blizzard approval and downloadable from bnet so everyone can get it easily.

I'm even for blizzard more actively scanning my memory during games if they would release the sourcecode (of the previous version maybe, so hackers are always behind) so we can see it is indeed a randomized, anonymous scan for known hacks and no hidden data collecting crap or some bliz employee looking at my imagined nude gf's pictures.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
July 27 2012 11:58 GMT
#231
Question: If it is possible to switch models is it possible to make say the DT model the same as the Odin model so you can see it without detection. Cause if so then that seem like a reason to stop it.
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
Iksf
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom444 Posts
July 27 2012 12:03 GMT
#232
Signed, long time user of some of these edits be a real shame to lose them
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
July 27 2012 12:07 GMT
#233
I signed the petition without too much hesitation. I know mpq checking before every session would be a great step to stop hacking to some extent. But Blizz should find some other ways to prevent this.

Modding is one of the best aspects of this game and should not be removed.

Thanks
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
kezz_
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia25 Posts
July 27 2012 12:10 GMT
#234
If useful changes like the stronger colours option and maybe the alternative backgrounds/fonts are so popular, I'm sure there is a way to let Blizzard know that these are things we would like built into the game. I'm all for people using mod techniques creatively to make the game more accessible and personalised, but there's always a warning flag that goes off in my mind - it only takes 1 person to find a gamebreaking modification that gives an unfair advantage, and the fun of laddering can be destroyed for weeks until it gets fixed.
Just do it.
Province
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom314 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 12:25:47
July 27 2012 12:19 GMT
#235
For the colour blindness argument for STC, does making a colour stronger improve it's distinguisability? Forgive my ignorance of the condition, but I don't understand how this works. Also, does the mod change the colour of things such as the nuke red dot? I think the colour blindness argument is really valid, but I don't know if it actually has an effect or not in improving the gameplay capabilities of the player (if they suffer from the condition) using it, could someone enlighten me?
A-BomB
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland79 Posts
July 27 2012 12:24 GMT
#236
dude mod stopping is a good thing ,anything that prevents hacking and makes sc2 more secure is a good thing.We dont want sc2 turning into bw where every second person hacked and if that means that some of the more casual gamers dont get to have boxer in their main screen or there roaches arnt as bright thats fine to me,although dark protoss does look badsass
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
July 27 2012 12:31 GMT
#237
On July 27 2012 21:24 A-BomB wrote:
dude mod stopping is a good thing ,anything that prevents hacking and makes sc2 more secure is a good thing.We dont want sc2 turning into bw where every second person hacked and if that means that some of the more casual gamers dont get to have boxer in their main screen or there roaches arnt as bright thats fine to me,although dark protoss does look badsass

Sometimes, I wonder if people will just continue on no matter what.

This
Does
Not
Affect
The
Popular
Hacks

I hope the vertical layout helps you out.
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
July 27 2012 12:33 GMT
#238
On July 27 2012 21:31 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 21:24 A-BomB wrote:
dude mod stopping is a good thing ,anything that prevents hacking and makes sc2 more secure is a good thing.We dont want sc2 turning into bw where every second person hacked and if that means that some of the more casual gamers dont get to have boxer in their main screen or there roaches arnt as bright thats fine to me,although dark protoss does look badsass

Sometimes, I wonder if people will just continue on no matter what.

This
Does
Not
Affect
The
Popular
Hacks

I hope the vertical layout helps you out.


Only if the OP add a big ass banner with this message
invisible tetris level master
iRaYP
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland66 Posts
July 27 2012 12:40 GMT
#239
On July 27 2012 20:58 Tantaburs wrote:
Question: If it is possible to switch models is it possible to make say the DT model the same as the Odin model so you can see it without detection. Cause if so then that seem like a reason to stop it.


I would like this answered by the "pro mod" group
Herp Derp
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
July 27 2012 13:10 GMT
#240
On July 27 2012 21:24 A-BomB wrote:
dude mod stopping is a good thing ,anything that prevents hacking and makes sc2 more secure is a good thing.We dont want sc2 turning into bw where every second person hacked and if that means that some of the more casual gamers dont get to have boxer in their main screen or there roaches arnt as bright thats fine to me,although dark protoss does look badsass


Must have read the title and been enraged enough to skip everything vote no and write this post

How people can oppose modding I'll never know, maybe the argument there isn't anything useful to be achieved by it is your argument, but if we stop modding now we'll never know if someone discovered a mod that could change improve playing experience.

Besides this isn't going to stop hacking, if stopping hacking was this simple well shit hacking wouldn't be very effective then. Hackers will always find a way to hack and play with their advantage, the only thing you can do is report them (or outplay them however the fuck you achieve that) and wait for blizzard to ban them at which point they have to spend to play again with the risk of getting banned again.
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