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RIP BW =( no bickering please!
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
June 06 2012 04:11 GMT
#301
I feel bad for Kespa players. Judging from GSTL and SPL yesterday the skill gap between GSL players and Kespa players is ridiculuosly huge.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10382 Posts
June 06 2012 04:13 GMT
#302
WOW NICE! BW and SC2 players can play together!

Sorry BW fans. I know this is probably really devastating. I could see esports growing like this but didn't quite expect BW to die so fast. Well, I'm a BW fan too, but I like SC2 as well, so it's not that much of a loss for me.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
June 06 2012 04:13 GMT
#303
Behold the rise of a new era.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
June 06 2012 04:15 GMT
#304
Lolwhat? Kespa just going to hand over all the prize money to the GSL guys.

Kespa really botched the timing on this transition. If they're going to switch to SC2 for the OSL, then why get locked into a full 3-4 month season of hybrid Proleague. The Kespa players have absolutely no chance to get good enough at SC2 in that short amount of time, especially since they're splitting time with BW. There's a very real possibility that no Kespa players will advance out of the qualifiers of this OSL. Which basically defeats the purpose of trying to transition to SC2 gradually.

They should have restricted the OSL to Kespa players for the first season, and then open it up when Proleague switches over completely. Or they could have squeezed in one more BW OSL, and have the full transition of Proleague and OSL happen at the same time. Even a full transition to SC2 for Proleague instead of hybrid format would have made more sense. Once again, they've chosen the worst of both worlds approach.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
itsjuspeter
Profile Joined November 2010
United States668 Posts
June 06 2012 04:15 GMT
#305
On June 06 2012 11:40 TBone- wrote:
One of my favorite things I'll miss about professional brood war were the hype videos, which are almost void in sc2.

I mean damnit why can't we have this in sc2 t.t
+ Show Spoiler +


thiss omgg, I watched these over and over the moment i caught wind of them on youtube.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
June 06 2012 04:15 GMT
#306
Rip broodwar. It was fun. Glad to hear both kespa and gsl players can participate though.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Hadley_
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany157 Posts
June 06 2012 04:16 GMT
#307
WOW NICE! BW and SC2 players can play together!


No not really. BW players won't be able to qualify, because they are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAD!
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
June 06 2012 04:18 GMT
#308
One dies... another is born.

So works life
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
June 06 2012 04:18 GMT
#309
On June 06 2012 13:15 cablesc wrote:
Lolwhat? Kespa just going to hand over all the prize money to the GSL guys.

Kespa really botched the timing on this transition. If they're going to switch to SC2 for the OSL, then why get locked into a full 3-4 month season of hybrid Proleague. The Kespa players have absolutely no chance to get good enough at SC2 in that short amount of time, especially since they're splitting time with BW. There's a very real possibility that no Kespa players will advance out of the qualifiers of this OSL. Which basically defeats the purpose of trying to transition to SC2 gradually.

They should have restricted the OSL to Kespa players for the first season, and then open it up when Proleague switches over completely. Or they could have squeezed in one more BW OSL, and have the full transition of Proleague and OSL happen at the same time. Even a full transition to SC2 for Proleague instead of hybrid format would have made more sense. Once again, they've chosen the worst of both worlds approach.

They haven't said when the next OSL will start right?
Could be a long long time, the gap between last last and Tving was a long time.
A few months will give a lot of the players a good chance to catch up.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
June 06 2012 04:19 GMT
#310
Wasn't this confirmed since the KESPA\Blizzard\GOM announcement?

Anyways, I am sad that BW had to go but I guess thats just a sign of our times. At least SC2 will do better in Korea I guess.

BW had a hell of a run and I think we all should be happy that it did last so long and provided us with so many memories
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
_Book
Profile Joined November 2011
United States51 Posts
June 06 2012 04:22 GMT
#311
On June 06 2012 13:18 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 13:15 cablesc wrote:
Lolwhat? Kespa just going to hand over all the prize money to the GSL guys.

Kespa really botched the timing on this transition. If they're going to switch to SC2 for the OSL, then why get locked into a full 3-4 month season of hybrid Proleague. The Kespa players have absolutely no chance to get good enough at SC2 in that short amount of time, especially since they're splitting time with BW. There's a very real possibility that no Kespa players will advance out of the qualifiers of this OSL. Which basically defeats the purpose of trying to transition to SC2 gradually.

They should have restricted the OSL to Kespa players for the first season, and then open it up when Proleague switches over completely. Or they could have squeezed in one more BW OSL, and have the full transition of Proleague and OSL happen at the same time. Even a full transition to SC2 for Proleague instead of hybrid format would have made more sense. Once again, they've chosen the worst of both worlds approach.

They haven't said when the next OSL will start right?
Could be a long long time, the gap between last last and Tving was a long time.
A few months will give a lot of the players a good chance to catch up.



The preliminaries are in July. It says in the OP

But i agree with what Cablesc wrote. Its too fast for the BW players.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
June 06 2012 04:23 GMT
#312
On June 06 2012 13:18 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 13:15 cablesc wrote:
Lolwhat? Kespa just going to hand over all the prize money to the GSL guys.

Kespa really botched the timing on this transition. If they're going to switch to SC2 for the OSL, then why get locked into a full 3-4 month season of hybrid Proleague. The Kespa players have absolutely no chance to get good enough at SC2 in that short amount of time, especially since they're splitting time with BW. There's a very real possibility that no Kespa players will advance out of the qualifiers of this OSL. Which basically defeats the purpose of trying to transition to SC2 gradually.

They should have restricted the OSL to Kespa players for the first season, and then open it up when Proleague switches over completely. Or they could have squeezed in one more BW OSL, and have the full transition of Proleague and OSL happen at the same time. Even a full transition to SC2 for Proleague instead of hybrid format would have made more sense. Once again, they've chosen the worst of both worlds approach.

They haven't said when the next OSL will start right?
Could be a long long time, the gap between last last and Tving was a long time.
A few months will give a lot of the players a good chance to catch up.


They said the prelim will start mid or late July, so it's not that long unless they mean July next year
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
MegaFonzie
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia1084 Posts
June 06 2012 04:25 GMT
#313
This means that the last BW games will be played in the hybrid proleague right? That's a massive shame. I think most would agree that the SPL has been incredibly hollow so far, particularly from a BW perspective. The last BW series should be the finals of the OSL, a massive show on a big stage where the entire event is about BW. Isn't that really the only worthy send off?

Otherwise it's just gonna be a shitty bo3 opener before a sc2 series and ace match. That just doesn't seem right to me.
@x5_MegaFonzie
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 04:25:47
June 06 2012 04:25 GMT
#314
On June 06 2012 12:56 High[5] wrote:
RIP BW! finally! BW was holding back SC2 soo much! :D
LONG LIVE SC2!! :D



On June 06 2012 13:07 Hadley_ wrote:
Finally! A 800x600 2D Game still shown on TV in 2012... where the fuck we are living. Nothing is lost and nothing will be remembered.


LMAO you trolls have to try harder!
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 06 2012 04:25 GMT
#315
starleague forever
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 04:34:38
June 06 2012 04:27 GMT
#316
On June 06 2012 13:06 polyphonyEX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 13:02 X10A wrote:
Oh scToo, how do I hate youuu.
Farewell, goodbye so long OSL I'll remember the memories.
If scToo becomes half as good as BW was in say three years, I'll be content

Now BW people can start feeling the same way us WC3 players felt when SC2 first came out.

>.<

Actually, there's a pretty real possibility that War3's going to outlive BW (in China that is). It really depends on how the BW scene develops after the OSL and KeSPA drops them and what the players who still decide to continue playing BW decide to do with themselves, if any sponsors will drop money to support the remainder of the scene on smaller prize pools, if KeSPA will allow that to happen (I'm unsure of what rights they have over BW and how far they'd go to discourage this), etc.

I'll just say that if there are still players in Korea who can make a living off playing War3, then I'm positive that it's possible for BW players who have a much larger following in Korea.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
June 06 2012 04:32 GMT
#317
Oh shit. This is going to be awesome!!! I must admit, I haven't been watching my old BW loves as much since sc2 came out, however I can't wait to see them all competing in sc2. I am very excited.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
June 06 2012 04:33 GMT
#318
On June 06 2012 13:27 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 13:06 polyphonyEX wrote:
On June 06 2012 13:02 X10A wrote:
Oh scToo, how do I hate youuu.
Farewell, goodbye so long OSL I'll remember the memories.
If scToo becomes half as good as BW was in say three years, I'll be content

Now BW people can start feeling the same way us WC3 players felt when SC2 first came out.

>.<

Actually, there's a pretty real possibility that War3's going to outlive BW (in China that is). It really depends on how the BW scene develops after the OSL and KeSPA drops them and what the players who still decide to continue playing BW decide to do with themselves, if any sponsors will drop money to support the remainder of the scene on smaller prize pools, etc.

I'll just say that if there are still players in Korea who can make a living off playing War3, then I'm positive that it's possible for BW players who have a much larger following in Korea.


RTS are pretty much dead in China. The last league is the G-League, for both SC2 and W3 and it isn't what it used to be...
SC2 is a huge flop and is only played by former competitive BW/WC3 players. It's all about Dota.
ॐ
SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
June 06 2012 04:35 GMT
#319
T_T Cherish every last game.
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
June 06 2012 04:36 GMT
#320
Time for the elephant theory to be put to test!
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