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RIP BW =( no bickering please!
warshop
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada490 Posts
June 06 2012 03:42 GMT
#281
On June 06 2012 12:40 SeeKeR wrote:
......

The BW lover in me just died a LOT inside....
The SC2 lover in me is leaping with joy and ecstasy

The StarCraft lover in me is torn and conflicted
The TeamLiquid lover in me wants to keep posting


Love shall persist nonetheless.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 06 2012 03:45 GMT
#282
God Bless
KivTM
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia90 Posts
June 06 2012 03:45 GMT
#283
I can only hope that blizzard realises how not up to par sc2 as an esport is (in terms of viewability, strategy etc) and makes a game worth of being broodwar's successor by the time the final expansion is out. As it stands now, watching sc2 is boring regardles of who is playing.

RIP OSL, I will forver remember the great moments you provided me with.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
June 06 2012 03:45 GMT
#284
On June 06 2012 11:55 Nazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 11:47 endy wrote:
On June 06 2012 11:40 Nazza wrote:
On June 06 2012 11:37 Whiztard wrote:
On June 06 2012 11:25 Nazza wrote:
On June 06 2012 10:02 Archile wrote:
ok guys, I understand you're all bummed about brood war

but look on the bright side, all the production value you know and love will be transplanted into a sc2 league that allows for strong competiton, unlike proleague right now. More qualifiers means more opprotunities to see your favorite players!


Ppl that care about/play a 12 year old game.... care about production value? and money?



I don't think you can deny BW's production value if it lasted 12 years and created, basically, an entirely new genre of business.


What attracted people the most was the game itself. Flashing lights and smoke and mirrors do not make a good show.


Yet the production value was higher than any other SC2 tournament : tons of awesome hype videos, real TV broadcasts, so much better casters, hilarious group ceremonies, spectacular finals (Flash arriving to the finals stage from a fucking plane), etc.


And what is it that you remember the most from the last PL finals? The games themselves right (or I suppose, the story behind)? You can make it look pretty, but it has to have substance.

It's like a massive gamble atm, either the BW pros come and push the metagame or "metagame" to the limit, and we find out that it's actually pretty enjoyable to play/watch at that level, or they don't, that the skill ceiling really is as low as it is implied.

I mean, it's probably too much to ask for them to hold a smaller, lower production value BW league at the same time as the newer SC2 league..... but I think the fans would appreciate it.


Obviously the games are more important. Even if SC2 tournaments can eventually the same production value as BW, I'll still not watch them.
But you originally stated that BW fans don't care about production value, and that's just untrue. The hype videos, players entrance, Jeon Yong Joon's voice, all of these gave me tons of nerd chills before the games even started and made the games so much more enjoyable to watch.
ॐ
Blackrobe
Profile Joined August 2010
United States806 Posts
June 06 2012 03:48 GMT
#285
RIP BW
"To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future."
theBOOCH
Profile Joined November 2010
United States832 Posts
June 06 2012 03:52 GMT
#286
Wow. I knew this would happen eventually, but I didn't think it's be so soon. SC2s going to look very different in a year.
If all you're offering is Dos Equis, I will stay thirsty thank you very much.
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
June 06 2012 03:54 GMT
#287
RIP BW
LONG LIVE SC2
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
awwnuts07
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States621 Posts
June 06 2012 03:55 GMT
#288
I feel bad for the hardcore BW fans. Their worst fears are coming to pass. BW goes out with a whimper instead of a bang.
I'm a noob
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
June 06 2012 03:56 GMT
#289
that's actually pretty good that any players, including GSL players can attend.. will make it very interesting.

on the other hand.. I don't see why there can't be GSL/GSTL and PL/OSL (BW).. that would be most ideal.. hehe.

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
High[5]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States61 Posts
June 06 2012 03:56 GMT
#290
RIP BW! finally! BW was holding back SC2 soo much! :D
LONG LIVE SC2!! :D

User was warned for this post
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51639 Posts
June 06 2012 03:57 GMT
#291
On June 06 2012 12:37 Klogon wrote:
I feel like I am going to throw a farewell BW party for the OSL finals. I can sense the emotions already.


Come to Korea for the OSL final! I think I will be.
Commentator
cydereal
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States193 Posts
June 06 2012 03:59 GMT
#292
I'm taking the time to enjoy Brood War a few more times on broadcast, for sure. Thanks for the great memories, I guess? Let's keep the chatter here positive and nostalgic and not blame SC2 for "killing" Brood War!
awwnuts07
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States621 Posts
June 06 2012 03:59 GMT
#293
On June 06 2012 12:45 KivTM wrote:
I can only hope that blizzard realises how not up to par sc2 as an esport is (in terms of viewability, strategy etc) and makes a game worth of being broodwar's successor by the time the final expansion is out. As it stands now, watching sc2 is boring regardles of who is playing.

RIP OSL, I will forver remember the great moments you provided me with.


Luckily, we have 2 more expansions and countless patches to look forward. Remember, the original Starcraft was not anywhere near as good as Brood War. Let's hope HotS and LotV follow suit.
I'm a noob
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 06 2012 04:02 GMT
#294
Oh scToo, how do I hate youuu.
Farewell, goodbye so long OSL I'll remember the memories.
If scToo becomes half as good as BW was in say three years, I'll be content
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 04:03:54
June 06 2012 04:02 GMT
#295
On June 06 2012 12:59 awwnuts07 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 12:45 KivTM wrote:
I can only hope that blizzard realises how not up to par sc2 as an esport is (in terms of viewability, strategy etc) and makes a game worth of being broodwar's successor by the time the final expansion is out. As it stands now, watching sc2 is boring regardles of who is playing.

RIP OSL, I will forver remember the great moments you provided me with.


Luckily, we have 2 more expansions and countless patches to look forward. Remember, the original Starcraft was not anywhere near as good as Brood War. Let's hope HotS and LotV follow suit.


LET'S NOT HAVE THIS ARGUMENT

BW is dying and that is bad. Not even just bad for BW, but bad in general.

Korean SC2 has a badly-needed non-GSL tournament (SC2 has tons of foreign tourneys, but little in Korea). This is good for SC2.

Either way, this is not the thread to debate the merits of the respective games.

On June 06 2012 13:02 X10A wrote:
Oh scToo, how do I hate youuu.
Farewell, goodbye so long OSL I'll remember the memories.
If scToo becomes half as good as BW was in say three years, I'll be content


I sincerely hope you'll continue LRing. You're the only LR I find entertaining in and of itself.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
June 06 2012 04:06 GMT
#296
On June 06 2012 13:02 X10A wrote:
Oh scToo, how do I hate youuu.
Farewell, goodbye so long OSL I'll remember the memories.
If scToo becomes half as good as BW was in say three years, I'll be content

Now BW people can start feeling the same way us WC3 players felt when SC2 first came out.

>.<
Hadley_
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany157 Posts
June 06 2012 04:07 GMT
#297
Finally! A 800x600 2D Game still shown on TV in 2012... where the fuck we are living. Nothing is lost and nothing will be remembered.

User was banned for this post.
MegaFonzie
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia1084 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 04:10:54
June 06 2012 04:09 GMT
#298
Pretty expected but sad none the less. Hopefully it goes out with a bang with a final worthy of the years of entertainment BW delivered.

Also ^ you're a moron
@x5_MegaFonzie
.Mystic
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada486 Posts
June 06 2012 04:10 GMT
#299
bittersweet ~
EerieNewb
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland73 Posts
June 06 2012 04:11 GMT
#300
I never watched or played BW(at least multiplayer :p), but I feel very sad for this. This might be a good news for now, but looking at the future it's bad news, as even best games come and go so far...
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