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RIP BW =( no bickering please!
Stopher
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States38 Posts
June 06 2012 02:42 GMT
#241
R.I.P. BW
Long live SC2.
although, i'm excited for Brood war pros vs non-kespa pros vs foreigners all in 1 league
"The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma." -Patrick Star
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
June 06 2012 02:44 GMT
#242
Fuck.
Hello
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
June 06 2012 02:44 GMT
#243
On June 06 2012 11:41 MicrowaveMess wrote:
I wanted to read all through this thread but I had to stop. It is sad to see BW die to the sound of applause by Sc2 fans. My initial reaction was to write a giant wall of text flaming Sc2 but I deleted it. I feel like my best friend just moved. Sure he's not dead but I'll never see him again and it will never be the same. I am fucking speechless I don't know what to write. This is the end so I guess I'm done here. I will be drowning my sorrows on ladder tonight.


There there, hugs for every crying BW fan.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 02:55:54
June 06 2012 02:47 GMT
#244
On June 06 2012 11:40 TBone- wrote:
One of my favorite things I'll miss about professional brood war were the hype videos, which are almost void in sc2.

I mean damnit why can't we have this in sc2 t.t
+ Show Spoiler +


Damn straight. Though to be honest most of the recent intros haven't been that exciting.

I still feel like Reach is about to murder me every time I watch the Daum intro.

EDIT: Though I did like the 2009 EVER intro.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
June 06 2012 02:47 GMT
#245
On June 06 2012 11:40 Nazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 11:37 Whiztard wrote:
On June 06 2012 11:25 Nazza wrote:
On June 06 2012 10:02 Archile wrote:
ok guys, I understand you're all bummed about brood war

but look on the bright side, all the production value you know and love will be transplanted into a sc2 league that allows for strong competiton, unlike proleague right now. More qualifiers means more opprotunities to see your favorite players!


Ppl that care about/play a 12 year old game.... care about production value? and money?



I don't think you can deny BW's production value if it lasted 12 years and created, basically, an entirely new genre of business.


What attracted people the most was the game itself. Flashing lights and smoke and mirrors do not make a good show.


Yet the production value was higher than any other SC2 tournament : tons of awesome hype videos, real TV broadcasts, so much better casters, hilarious group ceremonies, spectacular finals (Flash arriving to the finals stage from a fucking plane), etc.
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fold
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia665 Posts
June 06 2012 02:47 GMT
#246
Wish they had done this 'last champion' thing for PL as well so at least we know that it's ending...they could do whatever they want after.
t.t
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
June 06 2012 02:48 GMT
#247
We need to have a big foreign BW tournament dedicated to the memory of OSL, and to BW as a whole. Like, a big one, bigger than anything I could personally sponsor.
SatelliteNoodles
Profile Joined June 2011
220 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 02:54:22
June 06 2012 02:50 GMT
#248
Tears man! *sob*

On June 06 2012 11:48 Ribbon wrote:
We need to have a big foreign BW tournament dedicated to the memory of OSL, and to BW as a whole. Like, a big one, bigger than anything I could personally sponsor.


I suddenly feel I need this.
GIVE ME COMMAND... - Yell0w ­­­
Bijan
Profile Joined October 2010
United States286 Posts
June 06 2012 02:51 GMT
#249
On June 06 2012 09:49 Gheed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 09:47 fabiano wrote:
That's fucking retarded, but we all knew that stupid crap was coming anyway.

Maybe in 10 years SC2 will be half as good as BW was and watching a game of it won't be boring as fuck.

Also, of course:

Congratulations SC2 fans! Yet another SC2 tournament to follow. How many are there already? Dreamhack, MLG, IPL, IEM, fake SPL and fake OSL, that's at least 6 major tournaments.

I'm fucking mad about this stupid shit, but I sincerely hope that SC2 can become something much better than it is today. Hope that in 3 years I will look back and say that I was overreacting and that SC2 wasn't the shit I thought it was.


Eh, there's still HotS and LotV coming out. The expansions might make the game more appealing to more people. I was hoping they wouldn't switch over to SC2 until HotS arrived, myself.


Me too. My esports story was born with SC2 but I grew up playing BW. These recent months have had me actually watching a lot of BW matches and I'm sad that I won't be able to experience more than one full OSL before it all ends. I hope it's a good one.
Baltor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States171 Posts
June 06 2012 02:53 GMT
#250
As someone who joined TeamLiquid and picked up the game in the SC2 era, this news is definitely exciting.

However, I will definitely be sure to tune in to the rest of the games in this current OSL; even if I have work the next morning, even if I don't have anywhere near a complete grasp on the massive amounts of backstory behind these players or the game itself, hell, even if I don't have anything more than a basic understanding of what's going on in game, I owe it to Brood War and the massive legacy it's built up.

As Stopher said above, R.I.P. , professional Brood War. Long live SC2.
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
June 06 2012 02:53 GMT
#251
Sad, sad news, but inevitable. Better that it's being replaced by SC2 OSL than OGN's LoL tournament simply taking over. Nothing compares with pro level RTS in esports. Hopefully a few KeSPA players can improve greatly over the next month and qualify so that there's some continuity.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
June 06 2012 02:55 GMT
#252
"Source: Naver"

That is like saying "Source: Google"
We talkin about PRACTICE
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
June 06 2012 02:55 GMT
#253
On June 06 2012 11:47 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 11:40 Nazza wrote:
On June 06 2012 11:37 Whiztard wrote:
On June 06 2012 11:25 Nazza wrote:
On June 06 2012 10:02 Archile wrote:
ok guys, I understand you're all bummed about brood war

but look on the bright side, all the production value you know and love will be transplanted into a sc2 league that allows for strong competiton, unlike proleague right now. More qualifiers means more opprotunities to see your favorite players!


Ppl that care about/play a 12 year old game.... care about production value? and money?



I don't think you can deny BW's production value if it lasted 12 years and created, basically, an entirely new genre of business.


What attracted people the most was the game itself. Flashing lights and smoke and mirrors do not make a good show.


Yet the production value was higher than any other SC2 tournament : tons of awesome hype videos, real TV broadcasts, so much better casters, hilarious group ceremonies, spectacular finals (Flash arriving to the finals stage from a fucking plane), etc.


And what is it that you remember the most from the last PL finals? The games themselves right (or I suppose, the story behind)? You can make it look pretty, but it has to have substance.

It's like a massive gamble atm, either the BW pros come and push the metagame or "metagame" to the limit, and we find out that it's actually pretty enjoyable to play/watch at that level, or they don't, that the skill ceiling really is as low as it is implied.

I mean, it's probably too much to ask for them to hold a smaller, lower production value BW league at the same time as the newer SC2 league..... but I think the fans would appreciate it.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
GGPope
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia367 Posts
June 06 2012 02:56 GMT
#254
Dawn of a new and exciting age. But this is really sad!
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
June 06 2012 02:58 GMT
#255
Won't the prelims potentially affect the ro4 players who are still practicing for their OSL games? Would be strange if they SEEDED those for an entirely different game.
Attilanator
Profile Joined March 2011
United States154 Posts
June 06 2012 02:59 GMT
#256
I wasn't lucky enough to experience the long and storied history of BW, only really coming into eSports with SC2. So in a way, I'm really happy to see more players, and a huge league, coming over to the game I love.

At the same time, I know that SCBW has been the greatest eSport of all time, with incredible stories, players, teams, leagues, and in a way I'm sad to see that end. Even though I never got to enjoy it all live, BW has my respect as probably the most important game in the history of eSports. My only hope is that SC2 can take up the mantle as well as possible, and do justice to the name.

Also, lets' get some Flash vs. MC.
MC | HuK | TLO |WhiteRa | Tyler | DIMAGA | Naniwa | Boxer | Strelok | HerO Hwaiting!
BraneSC2
Profile Joined May 2010
United States123 Posts
June 06 2012 02:59 GMT
#257
Most amazing disappointing news yet. Honestly though, I'm very optimistic about the future of SC2 and I believe it will be a sturdy replacement once HotS comes out and strategies become more solid.
No fighting in the war room!
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
June 06 2012 03:00 GMT
#258
On June 06 2012 11:58 GARO wrote:
Won't the prelims potentially affect the ro4 players who are still practicing for their OSL games? Would be strange if they SEEDED those for an entirely different game.


Isn't that how it worked for TSL2 to TSL3?
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
June 06 2012 03:00 GMT
#259
RIP BW (T_T)

My only regret was not learning about the BW community earlier. Would have been nice to see all the BW revolutionary moments.
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Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
June 06 2012 03:00 GMT
#260
On June 06 2012 11:59 BraneSC2 wrote:
Most amazing disappointing news yet. Honestly though, I'm very optimistic about the future of SC2 and I believe it will be a sturdy replacement once HotS comes out and strategies become more solid.


As someone who likes both games, SC2 will never be a "replacement" for BW.
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