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I think tournaments could actually use this for now...
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On April 14 2012 05:28 Leetley wrote:
I think tournaments could actually use this for now...
as if blizzard would allow that lol
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On April 14 2012 03:35 skeldark wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 03:31 turdburgler wrote:On April 14 2012 03:24 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:20 windzor wrote:On April 14 2012 03:15 skeldark wrote:
Obvious, Blizzard don't want tournaments to use it.
So the question is, which tournament have the balls to say: I don't care what you want Blizzard !
I for sure don't care and will use it.
Then Blizzard wouldn't give the tournament a license? No tournament. That's fine for Blizzard And? For what reason i need a license from them. Its not like they can shut down my tournament by law. People ask for license to dont start a fight. Perhaps they would win a law case in korea but for sure not in germany and most other country. And if it comes hard... Russia the new location of all tournaments ^^. they will just ban your ip from battlenet. this is the whole reason for 100% internet connection required, so blizzard has complete control. stop trying to be a cool kid who thinks he can outsmart everyone else. And how exactly do they get my ip? All i have to do is not show the username in the stream. Also blizzard know everything i said. They just hope that most people out there obey to everything they write. Thats the main reason why company show this "license" before you install the game. They know most users are idiots.
EULA for software programs has been i courts, even in germany, and the EULA was indeed a legal document and binding. MS isn't too happy because they had to pay for people not wanting their Windows OEM version...
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On April 14 2012 05:26 dnld12 wrote:
SEND THIS TO MIKE AND BROWDER IMMEDIATELY. YOU SIR DESERVE A MEDAL!
:D
Good job
lol you don't think someone at Blizzard never thought of this? They probably already dispatched a DT to silence this guy.
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I honestly think this should be used as long as Blizzard themselves don't make one of their own.
I mean, MKP vs Parting.
Players being dropped out of crazy games will kill SC2.
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Has anyone got a video of this in action?
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So does this actually work? If it does, I think they should use it at tourneys. I mean, this is similar to the scroll wheel program IMO.
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sick, way to stick it to blizz and their no lan policy
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Also, what would be a good reason for them not allowing this?
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wait a minuit, if u run it,which player do you spawn as?
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Anyone able to record a video of this in action? I'd rather not use it personally but I'd like to see how it looks if anyone out there is trying it out.
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this must be some dude from blizzard trying to help us out when his company doesn't want to!
on a more serious note. this is sick
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On April 14 2012 05:33 windzor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 03:35 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:31 turdburgler wrote:On April 14 2012 03:24 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:20 windzor wrote:On April 14 2012 03:15 skeldark wrote:
Obvious, Blizzard don't want tournaments to use it.
So the question is, which tournament have the balls to say: I don't care what you want Blizzard !
I for sure don't care and will use it.
Then Blizzard wouldn't give the tournament a license? No tournament. That's fine for Blizzard And? For what reason i need a license from them. Its not like they can shut down my tournament by law. People ask for license to dont start a fight. Perhaps they would win a law case in korea but for sure not in germany and most other country. And if it comes hard... Russia the new location of all tournaments ^^. they will just ban your ip from battlenet. this is the whole reason for 100% internet connection required, so blizzard has complete control. stop trying to be a cool kid who thinks he can outsmart everyone else. And how exactly do they get my ip? All i have to do is not show the username in the stream. Also blizzard know everything i said. They just hope that most people out there obey to everything they write. Thats the main reason why company show this "license" before you install the game. They know most users are idiots. EULA for software programs has been i courts, even in germany, and the EULA was indeed a legal document and binding. MS isn't too happy because they had to pay for people not wanting their Windows OEM version...
No EULA dont hold in court in Germany because they change the contract after the contract was made. You had to actually show EULA in the store where you buy the game.
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Send a mail to Blizzard and get a job with them dude. Then make sure this stuff actually gets put into the game :p.
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For those talking about the EULA... Who cares??? The intent is not to ruin the game and Blizzard is not Skynet. They can't break into a tourny and kill Parting or something. If it works and is fairly easy to use I think that they should use it until a better feature comes about.
Nice work.
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Would be interesting to see a major tournament use this. Tournaments in Norway should be able to use it, and even though Blizzard would stop it, they wouldn't be allowed by the law.
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Look this could never been implemented, it just can't be done, this would require changing and improving the interface.
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On April 14 2012 04:42 hegeo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 04:27 Uracil wrote:On April 14 2012 04:22 hegeo wrote:On April 14 2012 04:15 Uracil wrote:On April 14 2012 04:10 hegeo wrote:On April 14 2012 03:51 Excalibur_Z wrote:On April 14 2012 03:47 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:44 HaXeR wrote:On April 14 2012 03:35 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:31 turdburgler wrote:
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they will just ban your ip from battlenet. this is the whole reason for 100% internet connection required, so blizzard has complete control. stop trying to be a cool kid who thinks he can outsmart everyone else. And how exactly do they get my ip? All i have to do is not show the username in the stream. Also blizzard know everything i said. They just hope that most people out there dont understand law like you and will obey to everything they write. Thats the main reason why companys show this "license" before you install the game. They know most users are idiots. Lol u are so smart kid.But what about blizzard banning your acc? And how do they know my account name? Whats the difference between account name and ip? If we play on battlenet they see in their logfiles: ip for name and name for ip.... Its easy to look smart if you are surrounded by guys like you... There are circumstantial methods, such as what your user path was, and what you did when. Now, stop derailing this thread. I can assure you that the moment this 3rd party tool gets used by the general public, Blizzard/Activision will add a piece of software to their next patch with the goal to shut down your account (or maybe warn you or sth). I think they are extremely quick when it comes to programming something they want to. BTW a quote from StarCraft II lead producer Chris Sigaty on (maybe at least the technical side of ) what the OP's hack does (from June 2009):
Joining a current game will not be possible at launch, but "we have some long terms plans to do a lot with exactly that," explained Sigaty. "The idea of joining and looking at game types you might be interested in participating in, but want to check out first that's something that's possible.
SourceSo yeah, they CAN do it, they had the IDEA to do it, but they didn't WANT to do it. I don't really know why they would want to fight the use of those programms. I mean there are already programs that intervene into Starcraft like new backgrounds or this stronger coulor mod. I mean how would the use of this program harm them. Maybe it's just that the program interferes with the "core" of the program, you know, game mechanics etc, not only with graphics/miscellaneous. So once they tolerated this, it could become increasingly problematic to check for other hacks. Maybe it's just "losing control over your product, idk" or security/stability reasons. Well but we can hope that they see that this would be a improvement for their product even if it is a extern program. Just an example. In LOL there is no official replay system but there is a extern program that does the job of a replay system. Riot has allowed the use of this program because its good for their game. Just like this would be good for sc2. Agreed 100%. Seems clear for everyone but Blizzard/Activision. But if you think of the whole Apple/iPad/iPhone-thing for comparison, their system is extremely restrictive as well. Once you mess with the source code, you lose warranty etc. Since source code is the only thing you buy in the case of SC2, it may explain their paranoia. BTW Maybe, since LOL is a kind of a mod itself and charge-free, they don't want to try to sue anybody 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe RIOT was the company who made said tool, and was being used, by permission of them, at some early tournaments before it was ever released to the public. I don't think this is a good example at all. I don't think you can sue people for using your own tools with your permission.
Reading memory by itself is a risky territory, since you can find information you shouldn't know about the state of the game, even while laddering. When you actually get into writing memory, it becomes more problematic. While I don't have a problem with this tool specifically, I'm not sure Blizzard would appreciate code injection considering how unpredictable it can make managing everything on their end.
Now as a proof of concept, I approve. It may be a good idea for Blizzard to implement something similar, but to be honest, I imagine they've already thought of this and either haven't had the time to implement (since I suspect 90% of their staff gets forced to work on World of Warcraft instead) or have chosen not to yet for other unknown reasons.
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Where's the source code for util.lib? And StormLibRAS.lib?
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