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How will this work on ladder?
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On April 14 2012 03:35 skeldark wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 03:31 turdburgler wrote:On April 14 2012 03:24 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:20 windzor wrote:On April 14 2012 03:15 skeldark wrote:
Obvious, Blizzard don't want tournaments to use it.
So the question is, which tournament have the balls to say: I don't care what you want Blizzard !
I for sure don't care and will use it.
Then Blizzard wouldn't give the tournament a license? No tournament. That's fine for Blizzard And? For what reason i need a license from them. Its not like they can shut down my tournament by law. People ask for license to dont start a fight. Perhaps they would win a law case in korea but for sure not in germany and most other country. And if it comes hard... Russia the new location of all tournaments ^^. they will just ban your ip from battlenet. this is the whole reason for 100% internet connection required, so blizzard has complete control. stop trying to be a cool kid who thinks he can outsmart everyone else. And how exactly do they get my ip? All i have to do is not show the username in the stream. Also blizzard know everything i said. They just hope that most people out there dont understand law like you and will obey to everything they write. Thats the main reason why companys show this "license" before you install the game. They know most users are idiots.
Lol u are so smart kid.But what about blizzard banning your acc?
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Interesting, very interesting. I'm excited to see some response from Blizz, though I doubt there will be. It is good that we, as a community, can make these steps forward with or without Blizzard and it seems to me that this huge group of people working towards improving the game for free is a resource Blizz should utilize.
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This is an amazing proof of concept. Awesome for disconnects and for fun!
Load up famous matches and play out decisive battles for fun, or to see what could have been? Don't mind if I do...
This + shared replays is the holy grail. We know it's not a technical limitation -- Blizzard just needs to assign engineers to do it with a priority. It's a business decision, just like LAN.
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Russian Federation6 Posts
I tested it with one of Idra's replays and it works. I'm shocked.
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On April 14 2012 03:44 dpurple wrote:
How will this work on ladder?
Did you read the post? Nothing to do with ladder.
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On April 14 2012 03:44 HaXeR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 03:35 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:31 turdburgler wrote:On April 14 2012 03:24 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:20 windzor wrote:On April 14 2012 03:15 skeldark wrote:
Obvious, Blizzard don't want tournaments to use it.
So the question is, which tournament have the balls to say: I don't care what you want Blizzard !
I for sure don't care and will use it.
Then Blizzard wouldn't give the tournament a license? No tournament. That's fine for Blizzard And? For what reason i need a license from them. Its not like they can shut down my tournament by law. People ask for license to dont start a fight. Perhaps they would win a law case in korea but for sure not in germany and most other country. And if it comes hard... Russia the new location of all tournaments ^^. they will just ban your ip from battlenet. this is the whole reason for 100% internet connection required, so blizzard has complete control. stop trying to be a cool kid who thinks he can outsmart everyone else. And how exactly do they get my ip? All i have to do is not show the username in the stream. Also blizzard know everything i said. They just hope that most people out there dont understand law like you and will obey to everything they write. Thats the main reason why companys show this "license" before you install the game. They know most users are idiots. Lol u are so smart kid.But what about blizzard banning your acc?
And how do they know my account name? Whats the difference between account name and ip?
If we play on battlenet they see in their logfiles: ip for name and name for ip....
Its easy to look smart if you are surrounded by guys like you...
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On April 14 2012 03:46 JackDT wrote:Did you read the post? Nothing to do with ladder.
No I only read the title actually. But thanks for answering.
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On April 14 2012 03:47 skeldark wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 03:44 HaXeR wrote:On April 14 2012 03:35 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:31 turdburgler wrote:On April 14 2012 03:24 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:20 windzor wrote:On April 14 2012 03:15 skeldark wrote:
Obvious, Blizzard don't want tournaments to use it.
So the question is, which tournament have the balls to say: I don't care what you want Blizzard !
I for sure don't care and will use it.
Then Blizzard wouldn't give the tournament a license? No tournament. That's fine for Blizzard And? For what reason i need a license from them. Its not like they can shut down my tournament by law. People ask for license to dont start a fight. Perhaps they would win a law case in korea but for sure not in germany and most other country. And if it comes hard... Russia the new location of all tournaments ^^. they will just ban your ip from battlenet. this is the whole reason for 100% internet connection required, so blizzard has complete control. stop trying to be a cool kid who thinks he can outsmart everyone else. And how exactly do they get my ip? All i have to do is not show the username in the stream. Also blizzard know everything i said. They just hope that most people out there dont understand law like you and will obey to everything they write. Thats the main reason why companys show this "license" before you install the game. They know most users are idiots. Lol u are so smart kid.But what about blizzard banning your acc? And how do they know my account name? Whats the difference between account name and ip? If we play on battlenet they see in their logfiles: ip for name and name for ip.... Its easy to look smart if you are surrounded by guys like you...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warden_(software) 
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On April 14 2012 03:38 gumshoe wrote:
My god, this could be pretty revolutionary. Imagine for a moment that you had the perfect opening, then a bunker rush comes, you lose, yet you know it was in your power to pull off the win in that scenario, so you play it out again till you get it. Or lets say you have a problem with macro at around the 15 minute mark, you start jumping up to over one k, all because you have difficulty adapting from two base economy to three or four.
Also because this hack essentially works for any replay, we can step into a famous game with our friends at any point, perhaps a spectacular come back by mma, players could make a fun little challenge out of seeing if they could pull off the seemingly impossible victory with their friends just like our favourite programers. Also instructional casters can step into a replay and show a player how their supposed to execute something, or where they went wrong.
This does so much more than just cut potential fat from the game, it represents a significant potential change to the way we learn how to play Starcraft, (and it makes sense doesn't it? I mean someone practicing a song on piano shouldn't have to restart the whole piece because they want to practice one part). It all begins right here, just because a coder with some free time on his hands really hated battle net and probably cared a bit about tl ( :
Yup. Tons of potential in every aspect: tournaments, practice, fun, socializing, pro players, casual players. It's the single feature (along with shared replays, which this kinda IS in a way...) that I've been harping on for so long because it has such a broad impact.
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Some get this to Husky to make a video. I want this to blow up so Blizzard ends up prioritizing it as a feature.
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On April 14 2012 03:47 skeldark wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 03:44 HaXeR wrote:On April 14 2012 03:35 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:31 turdburgler wrote:On April 14 2012 03:24 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:20 windzor wrote:On April 14 2012 03:15 skeldark wrote:
Obvious, Blizzard don't want tournaments to use it.
So the question is, which tournament have the balls to say: I don't care what you want Blizzard !
I for sure don't care and will use it.
Then Blizzard wouldn't give the tournament a license? No tournament. That's fine for Blizzard And? For what reason i need a license from them. Its not like they can shut down my tournament by law. People ask for license to dont start a fight. Perhaps they would win a law case in korea but for sure not in germany and most other country. And if it comes hard... Russia the new location of all tournaments ^^. they will just ban your ip from battlenet. this is the whole reason for 100% internet connection required, so blizzard has complete control. stop trying to be a cool kid who thinks he can outsmart everyone else. And how exactly do they get my ip? All i have to do is not show the username in the stream. Also blizzard know everything i said. They just hope that most people out there dont understand law like you and will obey to everything they write. Thats the main reason why companys show this "license" before you install the game. They know most users are idiots. Lol u are so smart kid.But what about blizzard banning your acc? And how do they know my account name? Whats the difference between account name and ip? If we play on battlenet they see in their logfiles: ip for name and name for ip.... Its easy to look smart if you are surrounded by guys like you...
There are circumstantial methods, such as what your user path was, and what you did when. Now, stop derailing this thread.
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On April 14 2012 03:49 HaXeR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 03:47 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:44 HaXeR wrote:On April 14 2012 03:35 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:31 turdburgler wrote:On April 14 2012 03:24 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:20 windzor wrote:On April 14 2012 03:15 skeldark wrote:
Obvious, Blizzard don't want tournaments to use it.
So the question is, which tournament have the balls to say: I don't care what you want Blizzard !
I for sure don't care and will use it.
Then Blizzard wouldn't give the tournament a license? No tournament. That's fine for Blizzard And? For what reason i need a license from them. Its not like they can shut down my tournament by law. People ask for license to dont start a fight. Perhaps they would win a law case in korea but for sure not in germany and most other country. And if it comes hard... Russia the new location of all tournaments ^^. they will just ban your ip from battlenet. this is the whole reason for 100% internet connection required, so blizzard has complete control. stop trying to be a cool kid who thinks he can outsmart everyone else. And how exactly do they get my ip? All i have to do is not show the username in the stream. Also blizzard know everything i said. They just hope that most people out there dont understand law like you and will obey to everything they write. Thats the main reason why companys show this "license" before you install the game. They know most users are idiots. Lol u are so smart kid.But what about blizzard banning your acc? And how do they know my account name? Whats the difference between account name and ip? If we play on battlenet they see in their logfiles: ip for name and name for ip.... Its easy to look smart if you are surrounded by guys like you... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warden_(software)
You are talking about ban me when i use this program?
I thought you talk about ban my players in my tournament. (which is not possible because they only see the stream where two guys are playing without any more information)
Oh if they ban the account of the tournament like they do with all the cheaters in bnet that should not be a problem.
In 2 and a half year, when they ban i just buy a new account....
On April 14 2012 03:51 Excalibur_Z wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 03:47 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:44 HaXeR wrote:On April 14 2012 03:35 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:31 turdburgler wrote:On April 14 2012 03:24 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:20 windzor wrote:On April 14 2012 03:15 skeldark wrote:
Obvious, Blizzard don't want tournaments to use it.
So the question is, which tournament have the balls to say: I don't care what you want Blizzard !
I for sure don't care and will use it.
Then Blizzard wouldn't give the tournament a license? No tournament. That's fine for Blizzard And? For what reason i need a license from them. Its not like they can shut down my tournament by law. People ask for license to dont start a fight. Perhaps they would win a law case in korea but for sure not in germany and most other country. And if it comes hard... Russia the new location of all tournaments ^^. they will just ban your ip from battlenet. this is the whole reason for 100% internet connection required, so blizzard has complete control. stop trying to be a cool kid who thinks he can outsmart everyone else. And how exactly do they get my ip? All i have to do is not show the username in the stream. Also blizzard know everything i said. They just hope that most people out there dont understand law like you and will obey to everything they write. Thats the main reason why companys show this "license" before you install the game. They know most users are idiots. Lol u are so smart kid.But what about blizzard banning your acc? And how do they know my account name? Whats the difference between account name and ip? If we play on battlenet they see in their logfiles: ip for name and name for ip.... Its easy to look smart if you are surrounded by guys like you... There are circumstantial methods, such as what your user path was, and what you did when. Now, stop derailing this thread.
You mean blizzard could track on the useractions on the stream they are watching the playername?
Thats a hell of a work. I dont think they can do it in time and even if so i can delay my stream for 30 min.
And the fact, that this function come with a mod and not with sc2 let you think about if THEY are able to do so...
If you see my first post, ist mostly ontopic, the rest is just defending my argument against some "opinions"
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On April 14 2012 03:20 windzor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 03:15 skeldark wrote:
Obvious, Blizzard don't want tournaments to use it.
So the question is, which tournament have the balls to say: I don't care what you want Blizzard !
I for sure don't care and will use it.
Then Blizzard wouldn't give the tournament a license? No tournament. That's fine for Blizzard
Are tournaments for under 5000$ free to use this? They don't need a license at all right?
Might be worth a shot to try it if a disconnect happens in one of those blizzard might not want to anger the community by going after a small tournament that does use it.
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On April 14 2012 03:54 skeldark wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 03:49 HaXeR wrote:On April 14 2012 03:47 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:44 HaXeR wrote:On April 14 2012 03:35 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:31 turdburgler wrote:On April 14 2012 03:24 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:20 windzor wrote:On April 14 2012 03:15 skeldark wrote:
Obvious, Blizzard don't want tournaments to use it.
So the question is, which tournament have the balls to say: I don't care what you want Blizzard !
I for sure don't care and will use it.
Then Blizzard wouldn't give the tournament a license? No tournament. That's fine for Blizzard And? For what reason i need a license from them. Its not like they can shut down my tournament by law. People ask for license to dont start a fight. Perhaps they would win a law case in korea but for sure not in germany and most other country. And if it comes hard... Russia the new location of all tournaments ^^. they will just ban your ip from battlenet. this is the whole reason for 100% internet connection required, so blizzard has complete control. stop trying to be a cool kid who thinks he can outsmart everyone else. And how exactly do they get my ip? All i have to do is not show the username in the stream. Also blizzard know everything i said. They just hope that most people out there dont understand law like you and will obey to everything they write. Thats the main reason why companys show this "license" before you install the game. They know most users are idiots. Lol u are so smart kid.But what about blizzard banning your acc? And how do they know my account name? Whats the difference between account name and ip? If we play on battlenet they see in their logfiles: ip for name and name for ip.... Its easy to look smart if you are surrounded by guys like you... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warden_(software) You are talking about ban me when i use this program? I thought you talk about ban my players in my tournament. (which is not possible because they only see the stream where two guys are playing without any more information) Oh if they ban the account of the tournament like they do with all the cheaters in bnet that should not be a problem. In 2 and a half year, when they ban i just buy a new account....
They neednt ban tournament account, they just dont give them license for next tournament.
But they can ban normal people who use this program because it violates terms of usage sc2.
get it kid?
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On April 14 2012 04:03 HaXeR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 03:54 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:49 HaXeR wrote:On April 14 2012 03:47 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:44 HaXeR wrote:On April 14 2012 03:35 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:31 turdburgler wrote:On April 14 2012 03:24 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:20 windzor wrote:On April 14 2012 03:15 skeldark wrote:
Obvious, Blizzard don't want tournaments to use it.
So the question is, which tournament have the balls to say: I don't care what you want Blizzard !
I for sure don't care and will use it.
Then Blizzard wouldn't give the tournament a license? No tournament. That's fine for Blizzard And? For what reason i need a license from them. Its not like they can shut down my tournament by law. People ask for license to dont start a fight. Perhaps they would win a law case in korea but for sure not in germany and most other country. And if it comes hard... Russia the new location of all tournaments ^^. they will just ban your ip from battlenet. this is the whole reason for 100% internet connection required, so blizzard has complete control. stop trying to be a cool kid who thinks he can outsmart everyone else. And how exactly do they get my ip? All i have to do is not show the username in the stream. Also blizzard know everything i said. They just hope that most people out there dont understand law like you and will obey to everything they write. Thats the main reason why companys show this "license" before you install the game. They know most users are idiots. Lol u are so smart kid.But what about blizzard banning your acc? And how do they know my account name? Whats the difference between account name and ip? If we play on battlenet they see in their logfiles: ip for name and name for ip.... Its easy to look smart if you are surrounded by guys like you... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warden_(software) You are talking about ban me when i use this program? I thought you talk about ban my players in my tournament. (which is not possible because they only see the stream where two guys are playing without any more information) Oh if they ban the account of the tournament like they do with all the cheaters in bnet that should not be a problem. In 2 and a half year, when they ban i just buy a new account.... They neednt ban tournament account, they just dont give them license for next tournament. But they can ban normal people who use this program because it violates terms of usage sc2. get it kid?
Read the posts you quote... You dont even understand what the discussion is about.
Also "kid" : When you grow up you perhaps learn how to argue without getting offensive.
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On April 14 2012 03:51 Excalibur_Z wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 03:47 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:44 HaXeR wrote:On April 14 2012 03:35 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:31 turdburgler wrote:On April 14 2012 03:24 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:20 windzor wrote:On April 14 2012 03:15 skeldark wrote:
Obvious, Blizzard don't want tournaments to use it.
So the question is, which tournament have the balls to say: I don't care what you want Blizzard !
I for sure don't care and will use it.
Then Blizzard wouldn't give the tournament a license? No tournament. That's fine for Blizzard And? For what reason i need a license from them. Its not like they can shut down my tournament by law. People ask for license to dont start a fight. Perhaps they would win a law case in korea but for sure not in germany and most other country. And if it comes hard... Russia the new location of all tournaments ^^. they will just ban your ip from battlenet. this is the whole reason for 100% internet connection required, so blizzard has complete control. stop trying to be a cool kid who thinks he can outsmart everyone else. And how exactly do they get my ip? All i have to do is not show the username in the stream. Also blizzard know everything i said. They just hope that most people out there dont understand law like you and will obey to everything they write. Thats the main reason why companys show this "license" before you install the game. They know most users are idiots. Lol u are so smart kid.But what about blizzard banning your acc? And how do they know my account name? Whats the difference between account name and ip? If we play on battlenet they see in their logfiles: ip for name and name for ip.... Its easy to look smart if you are surrounded by guys like you... There are circumstantial methods, such as what your user path was, and what you did when. Now, stop derailing this thread.
I can assure you that the moment this 3rd party tool gets used by the general public, Blizzard/Activision will add a piece of software to their next patch with the goal to shut down your account (or maybe warn you or sth). I think they are extremely quick when it comes to programming something they want to.
BTW a quote from StarCraft II lead producer Chris Sigaty on (maybe at least the technical side of ) what the OP's hack does (from June 2009):
Joining a current game will not be possible at launch, but "we have some long terms plans to do a lot with exactly that," explained Sigaty. "The idea of joining and looking at game types you might be interested in participating in, but want to check out first that's something that's possible.
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So yeah, they CAN do it, they had the IDEA to do it, but they didn't WANT to do it.
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This will also make day 9 dailies and fun day mondays that much more awesome.
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good job blizzard i never thought they would implement such a cool feature so fast....
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On April 14 2012 04:10 hegeo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 03:51 Excalibur_Z wrote:On April 14 2012 03:47 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:44 HaXeR wrote:On April 14 2012 03:35 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:31 turdburgler wrote:On April 14 2012 03:24 skeldark wrote:On April 14 2012 03:20 windzor wrote:On April 14 2012 03:15 skeldark wrote:
Obvious, Blizzard don't want tournaments to use it.
So the question is, which tournament have the balls to say: I don't care what you want Blizzard !
I for sure don't care and will use it.
Then Blizzard wouldn't give the tournament a license? No tournament. That's fine for Blizzard And? For what reason i need a license from them. Its not like they can shut down my tournament by law. People ask for license to dont start a fight. Perhaps they would win a law case in korea but for sure not in germany and most other country. And if it comes hard... Russia the new location of all tournaments ^^. they will just ban your ip from battlenet. this is the whole reason for 100% internet connection required, so blizzard has complete control. stop trying to be a cool kid who thinks he can outsmart everyone else. And how exactly do they get my ip? All i have to do is not show the username in the stream. Also blizzard know everything i said. They just hope that most people out there dont understand law like you and will obey to everything they write. Thats the main reason why companys show this "license" before you install the game. They know most users are idiots. Lol u are so smart kid.But what about blizzard banning your acc? And how do they know my account name? Whats the difference between account name and ip? If we play on battlenet they see in their logfiles: ip for name and name for ip.... Its easy to look smart if you are surrounded by guys like you... There are circumstantial methods, such as what your user path was, and what you did when. Now, stop derailing this thread. I can assure you that the moment this 3rd party tool gets used by the general public, Blizzard/Activision will add a piece of software to their next patch with the goal to shut down your account (or maybe warn you or sth). I think they are extremely quick when it comes to programming something they want to. BTW a quote from StarCraft II lead producer Chris Sigaty on (maybe at least the technical side of ) what the OP's hack does (from June 2009):
Joining a current game will not be possible at launch, but "we have some long terms plans to do a lot with exactly that," explained Sigaty. "The idea of joining and looking at game types you might be interested in participating in, but want to check out first that's something that's possible.
SourceSo yeah, they CAN do it, they had the IDEA to do it, but they didn't WANT to do it.
I don't really know why they would want to fight the use of those programms. I mean there are already programs that intervene into Starcraft like new backgrounds or this stronger coulor mod. I mean how would the use of this program harm them.
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