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ishyishy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
March 27 2012 22:37 GMT
#281
I hit my skill ceiling, and I essentailly quit the game. I play maybe once every week or 2, but thats about it (and it wont be 1v1).

I got the game when it was released, and played it as much as someone with a 40 hr/wk job could. I had fun with it for the most part; I went through some emotional swings like anyone that 'cares' if they win or lose would. Eventually I stopped caring, and just wanted to play it for something to burn some time on. I did some of that for a while, and eventually just got bored with the game and put it away.

I'm a gamer that needs some new content or a change of scenery every once in a while (like mmo games have), and I understand that an RTS isnt really the kind of game for that for the most part, but that is why I got bored with it.

I guess my 'skill ceiling' is the same as my interest level of the game. I dont enjoy playing it anymore, and there is no reason for me to 'improve' on something that I dont enjoy doing. I am not into competition as much anymore; I just want to have fun, and im not having fun anymore because this game has a lot of repetition to it.

A big factor in my loss of interest in this game is the fact that none of my friends play it as well.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
March 27 2012 22:40 GMT
#282
On March 28 2012 07:37 ishyishy wrote:
I hit my skill ceiling, and I essentailly quit the game. I play maybe once every week or 2, but thats about it (and it wont be 1v1).

I got the game when it was released, and played it as much as someone with a 40 hr/wk job could. I had fun with it for the most part; I went through some emotional swings like anyone that 'cares' if they win or lose would. Eventually I stopped caring, and just wanted to play it for something to burn some time on. I did some of that for a while, and eventually just got bored with the game and put it away.

I'm a gamer that needs some new content or a change of scenery every once in a while (like mmo games have), and I understand that an RTS isnt really the kind of game for that for the most part, but that is why I got bored with it.

I guess my 'skill ceiling' is the same as my interest level of the game. I dont enjoy playing it anymore, and there is no reason for me to 'improve' on something that I dont enjoy doing. I am not into competition as much anymore; I just want to have fun, and im not having fun anymore because this game has a lot of repetition to it.

A big factor in my loss of interest in this game is the fact that none of my friends play it as well.

Best fix for that is find friends who play it.
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
March 27 2012 22:42 GMT
#283
I don't understand. If you can function at like 60-70 APM while concentrating you can reach masters easily. I doubt you have hit you skill ceiling even remotely close. It's just your training habits must be bad or doing them incorrectly. You need to go back and destroy your current Sc2 work ethic and start from the basics and start over again. Seek advice on forums and what not and start from the basics.
JD, need I say more? :D
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
March 27 2012 22:43 GMT
#284
It's really more about just increasing it beyond your potential, no skill ceiling is actually fixed, it changes over time. for better or for worse.
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
ScaSully
Profile Joined April 2011
United States488 Posts
March 27 2012 22:48 GMT
#285
work even harder
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ishyishy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
March 27 2012 22:54 GMT
#286
Best fix for that is find friends who play it


Yeah you would think so right? However that is extremely hard to accomplish.

LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
March 27 2012 23:05 GMT
#287
On March 28 2012 07:54 ishyishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
Best fix for that is find friends who play it


Yeah you would think so right? However that is extremely hard to accomplish.



not at all just ask someone to possibly play some games with if you have a good game vs them. As long as you haven't BMed them or been BMed by them most people will accept if you are nice about it.
JD, need I say more? :D
ishyishy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 23:35:36
March 27 2012 23:24 GMT
#288
On March 28 2012 08:05 LimeNade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 07:54 ishyishy wrote:
Best fix for that is find friends who play it


Yeah you would think so right? However that is extremely hard to accomplish.



not at all just ask someone to possibly play some games with if you have a good game vs them. As long as you haven't BMed them or been BMed by them most people will accept if you are nice about it.



I never said people werent nice. I dont really care what people say in-game; that kind of stuff doesnt effect me at all. In fact, I think the concept of bm'ing is quite entertaining When someone says "you are a PoS noob scumbag that will never get any beter blah blah blah" i basically return with comments similar. Everyone likes to do things that you are otherwise not allowed to do in real life without being punished for it right?

WHat I am talking about is that the roughly 20 people that i consider to be friends (either good friends or people that i see occasionally) just do not like sc2, or RTS games in general. I actually made a good effort to get a few of them into sc2 specifically. I went as far as buying a copy of the game for one, and buying a GSL season ticket for another because I wanted them to see what I enjoyed. They just couldnt give a rats ass about it lol.

From sc2 release to the present day, I have played the game by myself in a sense. There was no one that I could share an interest in sc2 with. Just being apart of the "community" isnt enough for me.

I still like watching GSL code S (because tastosis is fucking awesome, and the code A casters kinda suck and try too hard to be funny when they arent; they are just annoying) but I can no longer find a reason to play the game.

Incontrol said something that I think is pretty key: if you have to find a reason, or motivation, to play the game other than just enjoying the game, then you should stop playing. A while ago, I was reading this thread about what motivates people, or how do they keep the motivation to keep playing. Those people just dont understand lol.
Herculix
Profile Joined May 2010
United States946 Posts
March 27 2012 23:37 GMT
#289
On March 28 2012 08:24 ishyishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 08:05 LimeNade wrote:
On March 28 2012 07:54 ishyishy wrote:
Best fix for that is find friends who play it


Yeah you would think so right? However that is extremely hard to accomplish.



not at all just ask someone to possibly play some games with if you have a good game vs them. As long as you haven't BMed them or been BMed by them most people will accept if you are nice about it.



I never said people werent nice. I dont really care what people say in-game; that kind of stuff doesnt effect me at all. In fact, I think the concept of bm'ing is quite entertaining When someone says "you are a PoS noob scumbag that will never get any beter blah blah blah" i basically return with comments similar. Everyone likes to do things that you are otherwise not allowed to do in real life without being punished for it right?

WHat I am talking about is that the roughly 20 people that i consider to be friends (either good friends or people that i see occasionally) just do not like sc2, or RTS games in general. I actually made a good effort to get a few of them into sc2 specifically. I went as far as buying a copy of the game for one, and buying a GSL season ticket for another because I wanted them to see what I enjoyed. They just couldnt give a rats ass about it lol.

From sc2 release to the present day, I have played the game by myself in a sense. There was no one that I could share an interest in sc2 with. Just being apart of the "community" isnt enough for me.

I still like watching GSL code S (because tastosis is fucking awesome, and the code A casters kinda suck and try too hard to be funny when they arent; they are just annoying) but I can no longer find a reason to play the game.

Incontrol said something that I think is pretty key: if you have to find a reason, or motivation, to play the game other than just enjoying the game, then you should stop playing. A while ago, I was reading this thread about what motivates people, or how do they keep the motivation to keep playing. Those people just dont understand lol.


i basically cannot play a game unless i have someone to play it with sometimes. it doesn't matter if i know them irl or in the game. i just need someone who's gonna be around to play with. you sound like you're like that too. don't try to force a game on people who aren't into it, but rather go find some of the channels that people into the competitive scene hang out in. just use TL search to find some channels and try and make friends and say you don't have people to play with. other people can probably relate
jax1
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden35 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 02:11:21
March 27 2012 23:38 GMT
#290
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
March 28 2012 13:37 GMT
#291
Sounds like you need an injection of....COURAGE! yes, You need courage, because that's the magic to breaking skill ceilings. That's the extra variable that skews winrates, it's not skill, It's courage! Pro Gamers aren't just more skilled than you, More so they are MUCH MORE COURAGEOUS!!! Courage > All, True men have courage and thus

Real Men > Skill Ceilings.
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
March 28 2012 13:44 GMT
#292
On March 10 2012 12:48 glyoArtOfWar wrote:
you destroy the floor and lay a new foundation


This. I've clawed my way up to diamond as zerg in the ladder. But I'm fascinated by this 3 siege tank into marine marauder tvp and other shit Marinekingprime did in MLG Columbus. Terran time! :D
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Capiachi
Profile Joined October 2010
78 Posts
March 28 2012 13:52 GMT
#293
Problem isn't reaching your skill ceiling but finding a way for YOU to learn and improve.

But more to your statement "When you have tried everything.." then you just enjoy it for as long as you please and then give it up. We play because its fun, some lucky members do it for money its just a matter of what you want to do.

If your in plat and have been there for 1½ year then you havn't done everything, simple as that. Only you can find ways to improve.
SirPsychoMantis
Profile Joined December 2011
United States180 Posts
March 28 2012 15:30 GMT
#294
Does it bother anyone else that the OP only responded like twice when there are a bunch of people trying to give him advice / ask questions?

One thing you have to remember is background. The game might be "so easy" for people (like making diamond after one month of playing) because of their background in gaming. How long have they played PC games? How long have they played RTS games? Chances are these people that are "naturals" played a lot of WC3 or SC:BW.
Zerg #1
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
March 28 2012 15:41 GMT
#295
theres no way anyone has reached their own skill ceiling in this game. so you are saying that if you played the game at the same rate for 6 years that your future self would be equally matched against your current self? no. if you hit a point where you cant seem to improve, just take a break for a while.
wajd
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
240 Posts
March 29 2012 23:27 GMT
#296
On March 29 2012 00:30 SirPsychoMantis wrote:
Does it bother anyone else that the OP only responded like twice when there are a bunch of people trying to give him advice / ask questions?

One thing you have to remember is background. The game might be "so easy" for people (like making diamond after one month of playing) because of their background in gaming. How long have they played PC games? How long have they played RTS games? Chances are these people that are "naturals" played a lot of WC3 or SC:BW.



I read all the replies here. Trying to use them. Starcraft is the only game I play. Stopped playing console games around after the first playstation.
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
March 29 2012 23:39 GMT
#297
On March 10 2012 12:48 glyoArtOfWar wrote:
you destroy the floor and lay a new foundation


Holy shit. Just opened up this thread...that's a fucking baller line.

That made my day. Thank you man. You just made my day. Time to kick some ass in SCII.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
DoubleZee
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada556 Posts
March 29 2012 23:45 GMT
#298
On March 10 2012 12:56 feanor1 wrote:
You play the game for fun?


You think this is a mother fucking game?
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
March 29 2012 23:55 GMT
#299
I highly doubt you've reached your skill ceiling. Even Flash hasn't reached his skill ceiling in BW. Just because you're not as successful as you once were, or aren't improving at the rate you once were doesn't mean you've reached a skill ceiling. Don't give up, keep trying! However, if you're not serious about getting better or playing competitively than just play casually (for fun) and don't worry about it.
Mvrio
Profile Joined July 2011
689 Posts
March 30 2012 00:02 GMT
#300
switch race or portrait farm
On October 03 2011 Jinsho wrote: Everyone is just a speck of fly dirt on the wall compared to Greg playing at his best :D
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