EPTWhat does this mean? It means that the SC2 competitive scene is miles, no, light years ahead of these games. They've basically had 1-2 tournaments each (Both sponsored by developers), while SC2 has had what, 130 tournaments above 1k$ ?
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THM
Bulgaria1131 Posts
What does this mean? It means that the SC2 competitive scene is miles, no, light years ahead of these games. They've basically had 1-2 tournaments each (Both sponsored by developers), while SC2 has had what, 130 tournaments above 1k$ ? | ||
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Bullet
United States280 Posts
On January 06 2012 08:20 m3rciless wrote: lol dota2 had one tournament basically. Pretty joke esport at the moment. it's in beta....sc2 didn't have this in it's beta. would you have considered sc2 a "joke esport" as well? =/ | ||
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DrGreen
Poland708 Posts
On January 06 2012 09:18 THM wrote: These numbers are very funny considering that 1.6 million out of the 1.69 million $ for dota 2 was in ONE single tournament, and if I'm not mistaken there was a 1 million $ tournament for MW3 as well. What does this mean? It means that the SC2 competitive scene is miles, no, light years ahead of these games. They've basically had 1-2 tournaments each (Both sponsored by developers), while SC2 has had what, 130 tournaments above 1k$ ? Hey! Acording to PGT that means they're THE BEST ESPORTS OF 2011. This whole tread seems like an advertisement of their site. On January 06 2012 09:20 Bullet wrote: it's in beta....sc2 didn't have this in it's beta. would you have considered sc2 a "joke esport" as well? =/ No, professional esports game should have major competitions in its beta stages. It doesnt make any sense from competitive point of view. It's just advertisement of the game. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On January 06 2012 08:23 Goldbullet wrote: Not to hate on DOTA but I just don't see it competing with starcraft because it takes less skill to play and is basically a mirror of LoL. -__- | ||
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Hurricane Sponge
868 Posts
On January 06 2012 08:44 Zona wrote: What about salaries? Ancilliary income? I'm with this guy. These numbers seem a bit lower than I was expecting. I'm surprised Brood War isn't on this list, as well. I guess the big reward for being a pro gamer in Korea is the salary and team-paid bonuses for performance, and not actually the prize pools for the constant tournaments themselves? | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On January 06 2012 08:44 Zona wrote: What about salaries? Ancilliary income? We don't know this stuff well enough. In Broodwar, we do know the estimate of top players salaries, but not in Starcraft II. | ||
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Skwid1g
United States953 Posts
On January 06 2012 08:23 Goldbullet wrote: Not to hate on DOTA but I just don't see it competing with starcraft because it takes less skill to play and is basically a mirror of LoL. Oh god, that just hurts to read. It honestly makes me sad that LoL is even mentioned in an E-sports environment. | ||
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FreudianTrip
Switzerland1983 Posts
On January 06 2012 08:17 firehand101 wrote: 1,000,000 out of the 1.6 of dota was from that 1 mil tournament, so not much from others when you think about it. Although they did start much later than starcraft, so i dont know.... Nah it was 1.6 Mil. 1mil to the winner then all the other teams got paid too. | ||
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On January 06 2012 08:23 Goldbullet wrote: Not to hate on DOTA but I just don't see it competing with starcraft because it takes less skill to play and is basically a mirror of LoL. this is straight up the dumbest thing I've ever read | ||
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
a good game for esports has MANY MANY opportunities. so just because dota 2 had #2 most money, doesnt mean its #2 best game for esports! On January 06 2012 09:51 Ruscour wrote: this is straight up the dumbest thing I've ever read How is that dumb? He's pretty much exactly right. THere is no arguing that SC2 takes more skill to play... we know this. Why is that a bad thing for Dota? It's not. It's different. SC2 doesnt have a rival. Dota has LOL and HON to compete with. | ||
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Shiori
3815 Posts
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Witten
United States2094 Posts
On January 06 2012 09:52 PhiliBiRD wrote: thing with dota is it was just 1 tourney... a good game for esports has MANY MANY opportunities. so just because dota 2 had #2 most money, doesnt mean its #2 best game for esports! How is that dumb? He's pretty much exactly right. THere is no arguing that SC2 takes more skill to play... we know this. Why is that a bad thing for Dota? It's not. It's different. SC2 doesnt have a rival. Dota has LOL and HON to compete with. It's dumb because DOTA came first by a longshot and LoL is a mirror of DOTA, if anything. | ||
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dekarp
286 Posts
LoL is such a terrible competitive game, it's kind of a shame to see it grow as a legitimate esport (may be a dick thing to say but idc). FPS/other MOBA games require so much more skill than LoL, it's seriously the most water downed, simplest MOBA out there yet the most popular. I don't hate LoL, in fact, out of every MOBA it probably has the best CASUAL gameplay experience, I just dislike the fact that it's taken seriously as a competitive game. With that being said, BW/SC2 are by far the most competitive games and should remain on top and I hope the prize money for 2012 properly reflects that. | ||
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Trevor.PGT
Canada53 Posts
On January 06 2012 10:08 dekarp wrote: Being a MOBA player (hon/dota/dota2/lol) I can't help but cringe when I see so much support being given to LoL. LoL is such a terrible competitive game, it's kind of a shame to see it grow as a legitimate esport (may be a dick thing to say but idc). FPS/other MOBA games require so much more skill than LoL, it's seriously the most water downed, simplest MOBA out there yet the most popular. I don't hate LoL, in fact, out of every MOBA it probably has the best CASUAL gameplay experience, I just dislike the fact that it's taken seriously as a competitive game. With that being said, BW/SC2 are by far the most competitive games and should remain on top and I hope the prize money for 2012 properly reflects that. Actually, League of Legends with its easy to pick up game play has attracted many new gamers to the MOBA / ARTS (Action Real Time Strategy) Genre. Also by being both free and easy to learn LoL is becoming incredibly popular with many player streams such as HotshotGG getting as much and often more viewers than many top StarCraft 2 player's live streams. | ||
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dekarp
286 Posts
On January 06 2012 10:13 Trevor.PGT wrote: Actually, League of Legends with its easy to pick up game play has attracted many new gamers to the MOBA / ARTS (Action Real Time Strategy) Genre. Also by being both free and easy to learn LoL is becoming incredibly popular with many player streams such as HotshotGG getting as much and often more viewers than many top StarCraft 2 player's live streams. Did you even read what I said or did you just see "LoL... terrible"?  I play it with RL friends sometimes, I don't dislike the actual game, I just think it's far too easy/simple to be considered an esport, or at least an esport that garners so much attention. | ||
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Calyeah
United Kingdom32 Posts
This is all GOOD news no matter what game it is, so can people please not bash on other games/scenes, or run around shouting about how much better sc2 is because it has more overall prize money. Edit: http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/The_International#Coverage The wiki page said here that The International had over 1.5 million CONCURRENT viewers for the opening rounds alone, with a large chunk of viewers coming from china. This shows that you can't just write off dota2 as a one tournament wonder that will only see success thanks to valve throwing money at it, it has the potential to grow just like sc2 does. Again this can only be a good thing in my eyes. | ||
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ilbh
Brazil1606 Posts
On January 06 2012 08:44 Zona wrote: What about salaries? Ancilliary income? same thing I was thinking. the total amount paid from tournaments means nothing. LoL will have their 5 million dollars tournament and that's it, the players don't get money from salaries like in BW and SC2. BW still has by far the best payment in ESPORTS | ||
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Trevor.PGT
Canada53 Posts
just dislike the fact that it's taken seriously as a competitive game. Did you even read what I said or did you just see "LoL... terrible"? I was trying to explain why it is more than just a casual game. The simplicity of LoL has shown to be great! The competitive aspect may seem lacking but this is mainly because the lack of experienced players. Once LoL players have played for months and years 8 and more hours a day it will bring a higher level of competition to LoL. Simplicity does not mean a game is lacking in competition. Competition is a contest between individuals, more individuals leads to an increased level of competition. | ||
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Shiori
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