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Snorkle
United States1648 Posts
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
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fish ()(
United States72 Posts
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On January 06 2012 10:37 Snorkle wrote: Lets keep in mind that COD and MOBA's have to split their money 5 or more ways. Not saying that it takes anything away from the amount of money given out, just sayin. The thing that i am interested in is LoL coming out in korea with commercials featuring Nada. I would find it really amusing if Koreans came in and swooped up all of this 5 million dollar purse riot is gonna throw out for the next season. Korea has had little success in DotA. But hey ST has a proteam. | ||
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dekarp
286 Posts
On January 06 2012 10:30 Trevor.PGT wrote: dekarp: I was trying to explain why it is more than just a casual game. The simplicity of LoL has shown to be great! The competitive aspect may seem lacking but this is mainly because the lack of experienced players. Once LoL players have played for months and years 8 and more hours a day it will bring a higher level of competition to LoL. Simplicity does not mean a game is lacking in competition. Competition is a contest between individuals, more individuals leads to an increased level of competition. Just no, it has nothing to do with experience. LoL has been out longer than Starcraft 2 btw... Yeah, its simplicity is great because it appeals to so many people, which is fine. Do you see me saying anything negative about a game like Banjo-Kazooie? Nothing wrong with being popular and easily accessible, as long as Rare doesn't fund some tournament series for millions of dollars to see who can collect all the puzzle pieces the fastest to promote it's esports legitimacy, whatever. May be a somewhat poor analogy, but I think you get the point. | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
It would be better to have a list without money provided by the developer itself as that doesn't really show the amount of sponsorship the scene attracts. Riot or blizzard or whatever providing money for their own game tournaments is just another way of advertising, has nothing to do with the actual size of the esport though it can and probably will fuel it ofcourse. | ||
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jinixxx123
543 Posts
On January 06 2012 10:26 Calyeah wrote: How has this devolved into people just bashing on other games? The thing about dota2 is, yes most of the money was in that one tournament but did you see the stream numbers for it? I can try and find the announcement but the viewer numbers for that tournament alone were insane, same with LoL, you may bash it but it draws in hundreds of thousands of viewers. This is all GOOD news no matter what game it is, so can people please not bash on other games/scenes, or run around shouting about how much better sc2 is because it has more overall prize money. Edit: http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/The_International#Coverage The wiki page said here that The International had over 1.5 million CONCURRENT viewers for the opening rounds alone, with a large chunk of viewers coming from china. This shows that you can't just write off dota2 as a one tournament wonder that will only see success thanks to valve throwing money at it, it has the potential to grow just like sc2 does. Again this can only be a good thing in my eyes. many people including myself only tuned into it to see "how the game looks" as it was the first glimpse we got . There stream views after that from other tournaments have been pathetic. | ||
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llKenZyll
United States853 Posts
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
On January 06 2012 10:26 Calyeah wrote: http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/The_International#Coverage The wiki page said here that The International had over 1.5 million CONCURRENT viewers for the opening rounds alone, with a large chunk of viewers coming from china. This shows that you can't just write off dota2 as a one tournament wonder that will only see success To be fair, The International was essentially one big marketing stunt by Valve. Sure, Day 1 had 1.5 concurrent viewers, but I'm guessing that's because a lot of people tuned in for the novelty of the first $1 million dollar tournament and/or to see the games worldwide debut. I imagine there was a sharp dropoff in viewers for Day 2 and 3, because I recall Valve refusing to disclose viewer numbers after Day 1. | ||
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Fealthas
607 Posts
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On January 06 2012 10:48 dekarp wrote: Just no, it has nothing to do with experience. LoL has been out longer than Starcraft 2 btw... Yeah, its simplicity is great because it appeals to so many people, which is fine. Do you see me saying anything negative about a game like Banjo-Kazooie? Nothing wrong with being popular and easily accessible, as long as Rare doesn't fund some tournament series for millions of dollars to see who can collect all the puzzle pieces the fastest to promote it's esports legitimacy, whatever. May be a somewhat poor analogy, but I think you get the point. Simplicity never stopped chess. | ||
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Calyeah
United Kingdom32 Posts
To be fair, The International was essentially one big marketing stunt by Valve. Sure, Day 1 had 1.5 concurrent viewers, but I'm guessing that's because a lot of people tuned in for the novelty of the first $1 million dollar tournament and/or to see the games worldwide debut. I imagine there was a sharp dropoff in viewers for Day 2 and 3, because I recall Valve refusing to disclose viewer numbers after Day 1. Perhaps it wasn't the ideal tournament to pick as an example, a more recent one being SMM that had anything between 20-30k concurrent viewers and that was on a terrible stream that lagged all the time, at a tournament that was barely advertised outside of the few dota only websites. The point I am trying to make is that there is room for more than just one super popular esports game, and that they can coexist without both scenes trying to point out how superior their chosen game is. | ||
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dekarp
286 Posts
Funny, people liken Chess to SC all the time, guess SC is simple then! Mind = blown. | ||
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HyTex
United States67 Posts
These figures mean next to nothing. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On January 06 2012 11:17 dekarp wrote: Funny, people liken Chess to SC all the time, guess SC is simple then! Mind = blown. See how stupid such an analogy is? People liken it to chess because core fundamentals of one persons intelligence against another is the core of both chess and sc. And LoL. As long it is person vs person as long as a roof isn't possible (anything with a possibility of moves around the same level as chess.) The difficulty is made from the players. This is how basically all multi player games have. Next we have people that wish to invest/watch. BAM esports. | ||
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stephen11
United Kingdom58 Posts
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hobosrus
United States99 Posts
same thing for CoD. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On January 06 2012 11:24 stephen11 wrote: Why do some Sc2 fans hate other games so much? (not all of you bear in mind) It's just like, "lol not sc2, must be bad", sure they aren't as skillful or even as fun to watch, but they all have their own merits.. You see the same shit in all scenes. BW hates SC2. Dota hates all, Hon hates LoL, LoL hates HoN. Quake hates CS. | ||
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stephen11
United Kingdom58 Posts
On January 06 2012 11:27 Eppa! wrote: You see the same shit in all scenes. BW hates SC2. Dota hates all, Hon hates LoL, LoL hates HoN. Quake hates CS. That makes it okay then? because others do it? no. | ||
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bluehawky
United Kingdom183 Posts
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