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On January 06 2012 11:05 juicyjames wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 10:26 Calyeah wrote:http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/The_International#Coverage The wiki page said here that The International had over 1.5 million CONCURRENT viewers for the opening rounds alone, with a large chunk of viewers coming from china. This shows that you can't just write off dota2 as a one tournament wonder that will only see success To be fair, The International was essentially one big marketing stunt by Valve. Sure, Day 1 had 1.5 concurrent viewers, but I'm guessing that's because a lot of people tuned in for the novelty of the first $1 million dollar tournament and/or to see the games worldwide debut. I imagine there was a sharp dropoff in viewers for Day 2 and 3, because I recall Valve refusing to disclose viewer numbers after Day 1.
I watched some of it during day 1, simply out of curiosity. That said I am sure DOTA2 will do well competitively. MOBA games are quite popular. I remember all my friends from my WC3 days all moved on to DOTA. Interestingly they seemed to move over to it in order of skill from least to greatest.
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On January 06 2012 11:05 Fealthas wrote:
I just hope sc2 stays in dominance. Dota and all FPS are SO BORING to watch.
fps can be exciting to watch imo
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On January 06 2012 10:37 Shiori wrote:
I think the problem with LoL is that, compared to DotA, it's laughably easy.
That's not a problem, it's a solution and why there is a very good chance that LoL will outshine DoTA2 as a competitive eSport. It's easy for casuals, as well as free, so there is a much larger playerbase, which equates into fanbase and a bigger eSport.
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The problem i have with a direct comparison of prizepools is that SC2 is a single player game, so if you win $250,000 you get all of that, where as a team game like DOTA 2 a $250,000 win is equal to a maximum of $50,000 and even less if you pay a cut to anyone who is a bench/specific role player.
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On January 06 2012 14:22 Hipsv wrote:
The problem i have with a direct comparison of prizepools is that SC2 is a single player game, so if you win $250,000 you get all of that, where as a team game like DOTA 2 a $250,000 win is equal to a maximum of $50,000 and even less if you pay a cut to anyone who is a bench/specific role player.
If you are on a team normally you do have to pay part of your winnings. Normally a certain % of it so they don't get all of it but yeah they don't have to split it with a team like DOTA has to and what not.
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Tribes is the only FPS I would want to see casted/streamed =/
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i don't see dota as an esport outside china.
the biggest competitive dota community is gosugamers.net and the people there are just shockingly (youtube level) retarded. the majority of them have 0 respect for top players, and you frequently see them make posts on how the chinese are losers because they take the game too seriously (in a competitive gaming forum nonetheless).
a big reason why SC2 does so well as an esport is because there are viewers willing to pay money to watch matches. i could never see that happen in dota, because it seems to be infested by 14 year olds.
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Good news for E-sports and the SC2 scene. I can only see things going up and up! And oh...2 expanions otw as well? Woot!
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If a MOBA overtakes SC2 in 2012, I will cry.
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do you know how much BW was? kinda wondering how large it still is. i know theres many tournaments but is there really that large of a fanbase anymore (compared to SC2)?
ps. i am by no means demeaning BW. played that game ever since i was 5, loved it and do like to see it be successful.
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On January 06 2012 15:48 Highways wrote:
If a MOBA overtakes SC2 in 2012, I will cry.
me too 
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MVP nestea and MC probably took most of that
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Wasn't suprised that SC2 was #1. But MW3? I thought LoL tourneys paid more money
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I want to know the size of the prize pool for Dota 1 in China. They get over a million viewers on their streams.
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I wonder if the people who are dismissing the Dota 2 scene realize that SC2's popularity was built entirely on BW's success. At least Dota 2 was a worthy sequel to Dota.
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It seems no one mentioned the important of BarCraft to the hole E-Sport thing. At least in the Western World. I bet, the bar's made a lot of money out of the BarCrafts.
Can someone tell me how many BarCraft-like Events there were for Dota2, LoL, MW3 or any other so called E-Sport? Would love to know. I did not hear of any in Germany.
On January 06 2012 19:54 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 15:48 Highways wrote:
If a MOBA overtakes SC2 in 2012, I will cry. You guys are overestimating the popularity of SC2 way too much if you think SC2 will be bigger than Dota and LoL.
i could never see a Bar be filled with people willing to watch Dota while they drink a beer. because most of them are under 16. can you see that happen?
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So LoL didnt get up there? Thought they have lots of tours aswell! Guess not much prize money :S
Still thanks for that and the link!
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If we substract the big main tournament for both dota2 and CoD, we end up with 98500$ for dota2 and only 10000$ for MW3, really not that good and not representative at all.
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On January 06 2012 20:41 writer22816 wrote:
I wonder if the people who are dismissing the Dota 2 scene realize that SC2's popularity was built entirely on BW's success. At least Dota 2 was a worthy sequel to Dota.
Sequel? Its the same game.
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