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Wait what?
I was just starting to think it was all good the way it was, but now they say they changed the way they invite players and that Naniwa didn't get a code S spot in MLG Providence.
What I want to know is who the hell was informed about this up until just now? Was there anyone at MLG who knew this at Providence? I sincerely hope you're not taking this the wrong way and ban me or something, but as I realize what this all entails I'm getting pretty pissed, and I've even been calm throughout this whole debacle up until now.
So you silently let all the players at MLG Providence and all the viewers rooting for our favorite players think they would get a Code S seed so long as they were the top player in the top 3 that wasn't already in Code S. You silently let all of us get our hopes up seeing our favorite players win match after match, getting that much closer to their dreams and the hopes of their fans.
This isn't even about Naniwa anymore. Screw that, I don't care about that anymore. You didn't inform a living soul as you changed the rules so that the struggles (towards getting that Code S seed, I'm not talking about the prize money for MLG Providence) of all those players would mean absolutely nothing, giving yourselves the power to pick whoever you saw fit among the top players around the world. That is utterly disrespectful towards the players and the fans.
So please, I implore you, tell me that isn't the case. Show us that you had communicated this to the players or their teams or the MLG Staff! Someone, step up and say "I knew about this all along, Naniwa never actually had a seed"! Show us the announcement where you explained how the new deal would work for MLG Providence and forward! Or maybe it never actually was a "deal" per se but rather a "buddy agreement" or something that you can change without notice?
Please someone explain to me what I'm missing here, or to me at least this whole controversy just exploded.
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On December 15 2011 14:24 zanmat0 wrote:
Not even an appology for having called Naniwa an "amateur prize money hunter," even though Nani appologized for his own actions.
Disgusting. Screw you Mr. Chae.
It was a mistranslation. See: here for clarification and here for the translators personal apology.
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On December 15 2011 14:29 Bogeyman wrote:
Wait what?
I was just starting to think it was all good the way it was, but now they say they changed the way they invite players and that Naniwa didn't get a code S spot in MLG Providence.
What I want to know is who the hell was informed about this up until just now? Was there anyone at MLG who knew this at Providence? I sincerely hope you're not taking this the wrong way and ban me or something, but as I realize what this all entails I'm getting pretty pissed, and I've even been calm throughout this whole debacle up until now.
So you silently let all the players at MLG Providence and all the viewers rooting for our favorite players think they would get a Code S seed so long as they were the top player in the top 3 that wasn't already in Code S. You silently let all of us get our hopes up seeing our favorite players win match after match, getting that much closer to their dreams and the hopes of their fans.
This isn't even about Naniwa anymore. Screw that, I don't care about that anymore. You didn't inform a living soul as you changed the rules so that the struggles (towards getting that Code S seed, I'm not talking about the prize money for MLG Providence) of all those players would mean absolutely nothing, giving yourselves the power to pick whoever you saw fit among the top players around the world. That is utterly disrespectful towards the players and the fans.
So please, I implore you, tell me that isn't the case. Show us that you had communicated this to the players or their teams or the MLG Staff! Someone, step up and say "I knew about this all along, Naniwa never actually had a seed"! Show us the announcement where you explained how the new deal would work for MLG Providence and forward! Or maybe it never actually was a "deal" per se but rather a "buddy agreement" or something that you can change without notice?
Please someone explain to me what I'm missing here, or to me at least this whole controversy just exploded.
No, you've hit the nail on the head. But that is what GOM is asking you to believe, that there never was a qualification spot from Providence and as a result, there has been no punishment by a removal of that spot.
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Blizzard Cup
Qualified Players:
MLG Providence:
Winner
Runner-up
The seed from MLG Providence was for the Blizzard Cup.
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GSL, you have lost my respect
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On December 15 2011 13:10 Vorenius wrote:
According to GOM he's not being punished. :/
They said that specifically in this announcement
You're misinterpreting punishment = ban. If you actually read the announcement the punishment = "We will however revoke his candidacy for a Code S seed, which means that he will have to requalify for the GSL."
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On December 15 2011 14:24 zanmat0 wrote:
Not even an appology for having called Naniwa an "amateur prize money hunter," even though Nani appologized for his own actions.
Disgusting. Screw you Mr. Chae.
It's even more disgusting that people are STILL trucking this out.
They never said that. It was based on a mistranslation and the person who reported that apologized three times, profusely, and prompted Liquid Nazgul to say they need to look into things being misreported like this.
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On December 15 2011 14:29 Bogeyman wrote:
Wait what?
I was just starting to think it was all good the way it was, but now they say they changed the way they invite players and that Naniwa didn't get a code S spot in MLG Providence.
What I want to know is who the hell was informed about this up until just now? Was there anyone at MLG who knew this at Providence? I sincerely hope you're not taking this the wrong way and ban me or something, but as I realize what this all entails I'm getting pretty pissed, and I've even been calm throughout this whole debacle up until now.
So you silently let all the players at MLG Providence and all the viewers rooting for our favorite players think they would get a Code S seed so long as they were the top player in the top 3 that wasn't already in Code S. You silently let all of us get our hopes up seeing our favorite players win match after match, getting that much closer to their dreams and the hopes of their fans.
This isn't even about Naniwa anymore. Screw that, I don't care about that anymore. You didn't inform a living soul as you changed the rules so that the struggles (towards getting that Code S seed, I'm not talking about the prize money for MLG Providence) of all those players would mean absolutely nothing, giving yourselves the power to pick whoever you saw fit among the top players around the world. That is utterly disrespectful towards the players and the fans.
So please, I implore you, tell me that isn't the case. Show us that you had communicated this to the players or their teams or the MLG Staff! Someone, step up and say "I knew about this all along, Naniwa never actually had a seed"! Show us the announcement where you explained how the new deal would work for MLG Providence and forward! Or maybe it never actually was a "deal" per se but rather a "buddy agreement" or something that you can change without notice?
Please someone explain to me what I'm missing here, or to me at least this whole controversy just exploded.
if naniwa gets code s seed from the mlg-gsl exchange program, did MLG pay and send 4 players and seed them directly into that tournaments championship bracket?
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On December 15 2011 14:24 zanmat0 wrote:
Not even an appology for having called Naniwa an "amateur prize money hunter," even though Nani appologized for his own actions.
Disgusting. Screw you Mr. Chae.
Please don't post if you're not informed on the subject. It makes you look like a fool.
Respect through the roof for GOM. Taking a stand, doling out some much needed common-sense punishment for a guy who will not learn. <3 GOM
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On December 15 2011 14:35 akalarry wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 14:29 Bogeyman wrote:
Wait what?
I was just starting to think it was all good the way it was, but now they say they changed the way they invite players and that Naniwa didn't get a code S spot in MLG Providence.
What I want to know is who the hell was informed about this up until just now? Was there anyone at MLG who knew this at Providence? I sincerely hope you're not taking this the wrong way and ban me or something, but as I realize what this all entails I'm getting pretty pissed, and I've even been calm throughout this whole debacle up until now.
So you silently let all the players at MLG Providence and all the viewers rooting for our favorite players think they would get a Code S seed so long as they were the top player in the top 3 that wasn't already in Code S. You silently let all of us get our hopes up seeing our favorite players win match after match, getting that much closer to their dreams and the hopes of their fans.
This isn't even about Naniwa anymore. Screw that, I don't care about that anymore. You didn't inform a living soul as you changed the rules so that the struggles (towards getting that Code S seed, I'm not talking about the prize money for MLG Providence) of all those players would mean absolutely nothing, giving yourselves the power to pick whoever you saw fit among the top players around the world. That is utterly disrespectful towards the players and the fans.
So please, I implore you, tell me that isn't the case. Show us that you had communicated this to the players or their teams or the MLG Staff! Someone, step up and say "I knew about this all along, Naniwa never actually had a seed"! Show us the announcement where you explained how the new deal would work for MLG Providence and forward! Or maybe it never actually was a "deal" per se but rather a "buddy agreement" or something that you can change without notice?
Please someone explain to me what I'm missing here, or to me at least this whole controversy just exploded. if naniwa gets code s seed from the mlg-gsl exchange program, did MLG pay and send 4 players and seed them directly into that tournaments championship bracket?
What you're doing is akin to sticking your fingers in your ears and going *LA LA LA LA LA*.
Yes, let's ignore that it was everyones belief that naniwa had qualified for code S. Him, his team, MLG and the foreign community as a whole. And that GOM never took any steps to correct this belief, until the day after the match between naniwa and nestea took place.
And that 1) GOM originally called it a ban on twitter (until later removed), 2) according to some it was stated on their homepage (until later removed) 3) it was referred to as such by Tastosis 4) the rules for their cooperation with MLG implies it 5) Naniwa uncorrected referred to his spot on the media day at the blizzard cup.
And that MLG themselves refer to the league exchange program for Providence: http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mc-mma-bomber-and-mvp-to-mlg-providence
Are you being serious?
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On December 15 2011 14:36 Inori wrote:
So when will MC, MVP, MKP, LosirA and many other BM offenders be punished? We want professional esports, no?
Also good job on changing code S seed spot rules without notifying anyone about it (even MLG).
No respect & no support for you, GOM
There is a difference between doing a ceremony, and disrespectfully refusing to play a game. I'm sorry if you can't see that difference because of your fanboyism but if you ask anyone who is able to think clearly, they will assure you that it is there.
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m0ck, this is a quote I had from 40 pages back, nobody knew. Even Naniwa thought he was in code S.
On December 15 2011 07:28 zeru wrote:So... Summary of code S spot: MLG invited and paid for 4 korean players to providence. http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mc-mma-bomber-and-mvp-to-mlg-providenceNaniwa officially won the code S spot by coming second according to all news posts and announcements and was never denied until...yesterday? + Show Spoiler +From MLG own site news: http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/news/naniwas-ascension Ultimately he dropped the following four games, and despite not being crowned champion, Naniwa has presented one of the most captivating weeks imaginable, both in and out of the game. In the last week, Naniwa has rage quit of of a GSL match, flown half-way around the world, defeated the two most successful Korean Starcraft 2 players back-to-back, sparked a rivalry with Nestea, been the center of controversy in a rematch against Nestea, let a National Championship slip through his fingers and earned a seat in Code S. http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/news/going-out-with-a-bang-mlg-providence-starcraft-2-recap Over the last few months, Naniwa has been training hard over in Korea to take his game to the next level, and his hard work appeared to pay off in Providence. The 2nd Place finish was good enough to earn him a Code S spot, so keep an eye on this MLG Champion as he goes toe-to-toe with the world's best during the offseason. http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/top-5-stories-from-mlg-providence Naniwa, however, stayed focused on his goal. Amidst swirls of tabloid drama and misguided quotes, Naniwa kept his concentration on the task at hand. When his turn to enter the bracket finally rolled around, the Swedish Protoss defeated Nestea for the second time that weekend, and followed the feat with wins over Huk and DongRaeGu. In the end Naniwa failed to seal the deal as he lost four straight games against Leenock in the Grand Finals, but appeared to be a man with a renewed determination and a refined playstyle. With the pedigree Naniwa displayed over the weekend, it's hard not to be excited about Naniwa's 2012 prospects in Code S and at Major League Gaming Events. http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-and-the-gsl-create-groundbreaking-player-exchange-program Pro Circuit Players Competing in the GSL At MLG Columbus, the Top 3 non-Korean finishers will each be placed into GSL Code A. At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows: Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, within the Top 3, regardless of country of origin, who does not already have Code S status. Code S status will not be awarded if all of the players placing 1st-3rd already have Code S Status. Code A status will be awarded to the next three highest placing non-Korean players. If Code S status is awarded to a Korean player, or not awarded at all, Code A status also will be awarded to the 4th highest placing non-Korean player. From Complexity, his team at the time: http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3270/ Be sure to watch the GSL's Code S tournament as Naniwa secured himself a spot thanks to the MLG/GSL exchange program. http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/naniwa-secures-top-3-finish-victory-over-huk Naniwa was able to secure a huge victory and guarantee at least a Top 3 finish in Providence. That placement will gives him a chance to secure Code S and continues the run of world class players that Naniwa has defeated over the course of the championship weekend in Providence. Edit: http://myeg.net/team/surprises-and-sadness-mlg-providence-day-3/ NaNiwa has finally reestablished himself firmly as one of the world’s top Protoss – and earned himself a Code S spot to boot. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nc8g6/naniwa_loses_code_s_spot/c37zdqgGOM now claims providence never actually was for a code S spot, basically breaking the agreement they had with MLG and try to cover it up with lies. also note that GOM NEVER makes announcements for the MLG code S winner. Man up and be honest GOM. This has to stop.
disclaimer: I am not advocating naniwa to regain his code S spot, however it's evident that there is a clear misunderstanding between GOM and MLG. Right now I'm inclined to trust GOM less but there are some clarification we want.
Also if the thing was so clear and cut MLG LEE would not be even be investigating the issue. They would merely say, yes there was no code S spot. However it's clear from their articles that it is not so and thus the confusion. [/QUOTE]
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On December 15 2011 14:39 m0ck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 14:35 akalarry wrote:On December 15 2011 14:29 Bogeyman wrote:
Wait what?
I was just starting to think it was all good the way it was, but now they say they changed the way they invite players and that Naniwa didn't get a code S spot in MLG Providence.
What I want to know is who the hell was informed about this up until just now? Was there anyone at MLG who knew this at Providence? I sincerely hope you're not taking this the wrong way and ban me or something, but as I realize what this all entails I'm getting pretty pissed, and I've even been calm throughout this whole debacle up until now.
So you silently let all the players at MLG Providence and all the viewers rooting for our favorite players think they would get a Code S seed so long as they were the top player in the top 3 that wasn't already in Code S. You silently let all of us get our hopes up seeing our favorite players win match after match, getting that much closer to their dreams and the hopes of their fans.
This isn't even about Naniwa anymore. Screw that, I don't care about that anymore. You didn't inform a living soul as you changed the rules so that the struggles (towards getting that Code S seed, I'm not talking about the prize money for MLG Providence) of all those players would mean absolutely nothing, giving yourselves the power to pick whoever you saw fit among the top players around the world. That is utterly disrespectful towards the players and the fans.
So please, I implore you, tell me that isn't the case. Show us that you had communicated this to the players or their teams or the MLG Staff! Someone, step up and say "I knew about this all along, Naniwa never actually had a seed"! Show us the announcement where you explained how the new deal would work for MLG Providence and forward! Or maybe it never actually was a "deal" per se but rather a "buddy agreement" or something that you can change without notice?
Please someone explain to me what I'm missing here, or to me at least this whole controversy just exploded. if naniwa gets code s seed from the mlg-gsl exchange program, did MLG pay and send 4 players and seed them directly into that tournaments championship bracket? What you're doing is akin to sticking your fingers in your ears and going *LA LA LA LA LA*. Yes, let's ignore that it was everyones belief that naniwa had qualified for code S. Him, his team, MLG and the foreign community as a whole. And that GOM never took any steps to correct this belief, until the day after the match between naniwa and nestea took place. And that 1) GOM originally called it a ban on twitter (until later removed), 2) according to some it was stated on their homepage (until later removed) 3) it was referred to as such by Tastosis 4) the rules for their cooperation with MLG implies it 5) Naniwa uncorrected referred to his spot on the media day at the blizzard cup. And that MLG themselves refer to the league exchange program for Providence: http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mc-mma-bomber-and-mvp-to-mlg-providenceAre you being serious?
derp i was asking a question, it wasn't rhetorical.
also looks like they only invited 3 people, and mvp was not seeded directly into the championship bracket. doesn't seem like those were the terms of the gsl-mlg exchange program so it looks like they did a compromise for mlg providence that we do not know of.
edit: looks like only 2 invited people where mvp was sent by quantic gaming
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So it seems like either GOM or MLG (or both) are at fault for miscommunicating that the winner of MLG Providence gets a code S seed when in fact that wasn't the case. MVP was not seeded directly into the championship bracket of Providence per terms of the GSL-MLG exchange program and had to fight his way through the open bracket. So it makes sense that Naniwa did not get a code S seed into GSL. So people need to stop saying that GOM lied and took away from Naniwa what is rightfully his. No it is not. MLG didn't uphold their end of the agreement for the Korean players (either that or the partnership ended) so neither does GOM. In either case, Naniwa is not supposed to get the code S seed.
Now the only question is why didn't GOM and MLG clarify this earlier. It can be seen as unprofessional on part of these organizations, but this no longer has anything to do with Naniwa., so leave Naniwa out of it. It's about how these two organizations communicate to their paying viewers and the community.
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On December 15 2011 13:51 Biane wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 13:49 Kryptic.610 wrote:On December 15 2011 10:50 OhYess wrote:On December 15 2011 06:43 Gin-san wrote:
That's actually a pretty lame response, just like i expected it. They think they're 100% correct and only blame NaNiwa. Hopefully Blizzard won't give the next SC2 contract to you but to KeSPA. If it was KeSPA who Naniwa did this too, his punishment would be MUCH more severe. KeSPA takes e-sports extremely seriously, and punish ruthlessly. Which I do like in a way. Wrong, Naniwa wouldn't have a chance to do this to KeSPA because they would actually have a proper ruleset and tournament structure. Having a bunch of rules doesn't mean a player won't decide to not break them on a temporary whim/emotion outbreak. And knowing Naniwa's history of doing things, he has a higher chances than most people in doing so.
You missed the part where I said tournament structure, if all games matter, Naniwa wouldn't pull this crap. That's just who he is.
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On December 15 2011 14:39 m0ck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 14:35 akalarry wrote:On December 15 2011 14:29 Bogeyman wrote:
Wait what?
I was just starting to think it was all good the way it was, but now they say they changed the way they invite players and that Naniwa didn't get a code S spot in MLG Providence.
What I want to know is who the hell was informed about this up until just now? Was there anyone at MLG who knew this at Providence? I sincerely hope you're not taking this the wrong way and ban me or something, but as I realize what this all entails I'm getting pretty pissed, and I've even been calm throughout this whole debacle up until now.
So you silently let all the players at MLG Providence and all the viewers rooting for our favorite players think they would get a Code S seed so long as they were the top player in the top 3 that wasn't already in Code S. You silently let all of us get our hopes up seeing our favorite players win match after match, getting that much closer to their dreams and the hopes of their fans.
This isn't even about Naniwa anymore. Screw that, I don't care about that anymore. You didn't inform a living soul as you changed the rules so that the struggles (towards getting that Code S seed, I'm not talking about the prize money for MLG Providence) of all those players would mean absolutely nothing, giving yourselves the power to pick whoever you saw fit among the top players around the world. That is utterly disrespectful towards the players and the fans.
So please, I implore you, tell me that isn't the case. Show us that you had communicated this to the players or their teams or the MLG Staff! Someone, step up and say "I knew about this all along, Naniwa never actually had a seed"! Show us the announcement where you explained how the new deal would work for MLG Providence and forward! Or maybe it never actually was a "deal" per se but rather a "buddy agreement" or something that you can change without notice?
Please someone explain to me what I'm missing here, or to me at least this whole controversy just exploded. if naniwa gets code s seed from the mlg-gsl exchange program, did MLG pay and send 4 players and seed them directly into that tournaments championship bracket? What you're doing is akin to sticking your fingers in your ears and going *LA LA LA LA LA*. Yes, let's ignore that it was everyones belief that naniwa had qualified for code S. Him, his team, MLG and the foreign community as a whole. And that GOM never took any steps to correct this belief, until the day after the match between naniwa and nestea took place. And that 1) GOM originally called it a ban on twitter (until later removed), 2) according to some it was stated on their homepage (until later removed) 3) it was referred to as such by Tastosis 4) the rules for their cooperation with MLG implies it 5) Naniwa uncorrected referred to his spot on the media day at the blizzard cup. And that MLG themselves refer to the league exchange program for Providence: http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mc-mma-bomber-and-mvp-to-mlg-providenceAre you being serious?
Yes and what you link to is completely untruthful. Bomber, MC, and MMA were placed in the champion bracket because of their past performance. MLG did NOT pay for MVP to travel, that was QxG, as you can confirm by looking in the thread announcing the partnership on TL. Further the exchange program said they were be seeded, which MVP was not.
So you're just trusting MLG over GOM, which I suppose you're entitled to do. It appears to me that they both terminated the agreement for Providence, or it wasn't applicable for some reason, and for some suspicious reason this wasn't communicated, perhaps because it was assumed GOM would be willing to give one of its foreigner seeds out to the winner of Providence, so it wouldn't actually matter.
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On December 15 2011 14:35 akalarry wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 14:29 Bogeyman wrote:
Wait what?
I was just starting to think it was all good the way it was, but now they say they changed the way they invite players and that Naniwa didn't get a code S spot in MLG Providence.
What I want to know is who the hell was informed about this up until just now? Was there anyone at MLG who knew this at Providence? I sincerely hope you're not taking this the wrong way and ban me or something, but as I realize what this all entails I'm getting pretty pissed, and I've even been calm throughout this whole debacle up until now.
So you silently let all the players at MLG Providence and all the viewers rooting for our favorite players think they would get a Code S seed so long as they were the top player in the top 3 that wasn't already in Code S. You silently let all of us get our hopes up seeing our favorite players win match after match, getting that much closer to their dreams and the hopes of their fans.
This isn't even about Naniwa anymore. Screw that, I don't care about that anymore. You didn't inform a living soul as you changed the rules so that the struggles (towards getting that Code S seed, I'm not talking about the prize money for MLG Providence) of all those players would mean absolutely nothing, giving yourselves the power to pick whoever you saw fit among the top players around the world. That is utterly disrespectful towards the players and the fans.
So please, I implore you, tell me that isn't the case. Show us that you had communicated this to the players or their teams or the MLG Staff! Someone, step up and say "I knew about this all along, Naniwa never actually had a seed"! Show us the announcement where you explained how the new deal would work for MLG Providence and forward! Or maybe it never actually was a "deal" per se but rather a "buddy agreement" or something that you can change without notice?
Please someone explain to me what I'm missing here, or to me at least this whole controversy just exploded. if naniwa gets code s seed from the mlg-gsl exchange program, did MLG pay and send 4 players and seed them directly into that tournaments championship bracket?
Thanks for clearing that out, though you could've been more on the point instead of just implying the answer.
So the deal in the exchange program was to trade a Code S seed for 4 korean players shipped over and seeded into an MLG tournament, and since Providence didn't have that setup that would also mean that the tournament wasn't affected by the exchange program deal, and no Code S seed would be given.
I'm still baffled that no one seemed to know this beforehand though, and it's also confusing why they didn't mention this in their explanation. So I'm still a bit unsure, but I guess I can relax now and see if it gets any clearer.
edit: oh wait, this doesn't actually change anything in regards to my original post. GOM still didn't inform anyone about this (maybe they thought it was obvious?), and all the players surely thought they were fighting for a Code S seed, and all the fans thought so as well.
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Well, I think like the statement has pointed out, although it wasn't a "guaranteed" seed, but player with impressive result would still be considered, and at the time of MLG Providence it seems he has earned the invite, due to his result.
But since it isn't "guaranteed", they can also remove the invites, and Naniwa still hasn't learned from his lesson after MLG.
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On December 15 2011 14:15 m0ck wrote:
The controversy at this point is not what was said about naniwa in the Korean broadcast. That was due to a mistranslation. But that does not leave GOM beyond reproach. One problem is, that GOM is insisting on never having given a birth to code S to naniwa in the first place, and thus not having punished naniwa by revoking/banning him from code S january. This despite the fact that, since MLG Providence, it was everyones belief that naniwa had qualified for code S. Him, his team, MLG and the foreign community as a whole. GOM never took any steps to correct this belief, until the day after the match between naniwa and nestea took place.
Even more damning, 1) GOM originally called it a ban on twitter (until later removed), 2) according to some it was stated on their homepage (until later removed) 3) it was referred to as such by Tastosis 4) the rules for their cooperation with MLG implies it 5) Naniwa uncorrected referred to his spot on the media day at the blizzard cup.
For GOM to ask us to believe that Naniwa was never actually qualified for code S is to ask us to suspend all disbelief. It simply makes no sense. GOM themselves, and people working for and with them, referred to a birth spot up until one day after the match between naniwa and nestea, at which point the story was changed, and tweets (and maybe, but hard to prove, homepage-posts) were deleted. To call it anything other than a punishment is disingenuous and embarrassing.
Naniwa has owned up to his mistake. It's time for GOM to do the same.
Posts that spread misinformation and/or conspiracy theories (without quoting a single source) should definitely be ban worthy IMO. As you can see. even now there are people all over the thread still talking about the "amateur-prize hunter" mistranslation. These kinds of posts do far more damage than a mere troll post.
1) I haven't seen a single source for this for the "twitter post". Also, depending on what was actually in this tweet (and translation), it doesn't necessarily clash with what is in the OP if there is no mention of MLG Providence.
2) Source ? Paladia also didn't source anything and seems to be the originator for this claim (which was later debunked).
3) Again, did Tastosis refer to Naniwa's seed as the "MLG Providence" seed? Or are you just inferring this?
4) The rules for co-operation were for the MLG-GSL exchange. In Providence, there was no exchange as there were no Koreans invited to that tournament.
5) Doesn't contradict anything, as Naniwa WAS the front-runner for getting the Code S spot. There was nothing in the interview that said it was the direct result of the MLG exchange program
Seems quite obvious to me here that there is at the very least miscommunication between GOM and MLG here about the seeds. It's possible that there's more going on, but I'm going to wait for MLG's official statement before going out on a limb here.
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