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pezit
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden302 Posts
December 14 2011 22:51 GMT
#501
On December 15 2011 06:11 dala wrote:
Wow, in the past 24 hours NaNiwa has grown up!


I'd say it's pretty obvious that this is just him being forced to act in a specific way, he still doesn't give a shit he just has to pretend he does like all the other pros, hallelulja for being professional! Maybe next tournament he can really go the distance and say "I'll try my best and try to win!" when he's asked how he'll do.
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 22:54:15
December 14 2011 22:53 GMT
#502
quantic has really good and levelheaded management, hopefully nani can stay with them, that way his PR would definetly improve, as long as he does not anything impulsive again.
BlueDolphins
Profile Joined June 2011
18 Posts
December 14 2011 22:54 GMT
#503
good statement and very professional by both Quantic and Naniwa...in a bit this will all be forgotten just hang in there Naniwa!
pStar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
996 Posts
December 14 2011 22:54 GMT
#504
Its actually quite amazing to see how the differing SC communities react (reddit and TL)

TL is more supportive of GOM and reddit is more supportive of Naniwa.

Just an interesting observation
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
December 14 2011 22:55 GMT
#505
On December 15 2011 06:11 dala wrote:
Wow, in the past 24 hours NaNiwa has grown up!

Losing everything you care about and look forward to for the next month through something that could have been easily avoidable can do that to a guy.
MBAACC | SG | shit at fighting games
warblob004
Profile Joined January 2011
United States198 Posts
December 14 2011 22:57 GMT
#506
The defeat of today paves the path to victory tomorrow.
"I have not failed; I've simply found 10,000 ways it won't work." ~Thomas Edison
Baz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom289 Posts
December 14 2011 22:57 GMT
#507
Fair play to Naniwa for coming out with this statement. I hope it is all genuine and that he learns his lessons, takes his punishment like a man, and by the February season of GSL this will all be long forgotten. Good luck for the future Naniwa
driftme
Profile Joined June 2010
United States360 Posts
December 14 2011 22:58 GMT
#508
On December 15 2011 06:08 LiamTheZerg wrote:
I respect the team, but have lost any respect to Naniwa or his cut & paste apology. Being an adult and a professional means being able to control yourself, which is something he has failed to show he is capable of time and time again. Also, i dislike the asking to reconsider for a second chance. He openly disrespected GOM during a tournament that was meant to celebrate a great year of StarCraft. It's only a month, he can and should wait. I don't understand where everyone gets this sense of entitlement from. You mess up, you accept your punishment, and you learn from it for next time.


The statement isnt necessarily cut and paste. Are you assuming that someone else wrote it because of how well written it is? That's kind of obnoxious.

Also, maybe he honestly didn't realize how disrespectful his actions were to ANOTHER CULTURE. Ignorance is not an excuse, and so I think his penalty is just. Hopefully we'll see him learn from his mistake and understand Korean culture better.
Senixter
Profile Joined July 2011
51 Posts
December 14 2011 22:58 GMT
#509
On December 15 2011 06:11 dala wrote:
Wow, in the past 24 hours NaNiwa has grown up!

Let's see if Idra can do the same next time he ragequits.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
December 14 2011 22:58 GMT
#510
Those sound nothing like something Naniwa would say, but I'm glad Quantic and "Naniwa" gave the community a statement. Hopefully now people can stop giving a shit, like I did! I'm much happier for it.
The universe created an audience for itself.
CaptainSlow
Profile Joined October 2010
Malaysia164 Posts
December 14 2011 22:59 GMT
#511
its nice to see both sides having a very grown up way to discuss and settle things off.
e-Sports has really matured today!
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
December 14 2011 23:01 GMT
#512
Really good statement from Quantic, and it _seems_ shit just got real for Naniwa. Hopefully this will make him grow and understand for real, who knows...

Gl to all parties in the future!
Mada Mada Dane
D_K_night
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada615 Posts
December 14 2011 23:03 GMT
#513
On December 15 2011 06:18 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:15 m0ck wrote:
Well, pretty much a statement as expected. I hope tomorrow we see GOM being similar upfront about their responsibility for what took place. Bad tournament formats results in perverse incentives, and GOM should own up to that.

Yeah these are my thoughts as well. Naniwa's statement is really generous and respectful of GOM. I hope GOM has the sense to reciprocate.


it doesn't change the fact that, if the format was bad, that the player could abstain from the tourney. Players should not only ever consider the best case scenario, and suddenly lose interest if things turn a turn for the worse.

That said, Naniwa was sincere in his apology, he stated that all games are important, and that's huge.
Canada
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
December 14 2011 23:03 GMT
#514
A very good apology. I hope that his actions in the future reflect the mindset exhibited within this statement.
infinitum
Profile Joined April 2011
United States83 Posts
December 14 2011 23:05 GMT
#515
I support you, Naniwa! You didn't do anything wrong.
Everything you know was forged from the remnants of a supernova.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
December 14 2011 23:05 GMT
#516
Good job on Quantic Gaming and Naniwa's part to send a formal apology.

NOW THAT!!!!! That's professionalism right there
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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D_K_night
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada615 Posts
December 14 2011 23:05 GMT
#517
On December 15 2011 07:58 driftme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:08 LiamTheZerg wrote:
I respect the team, but have lost any respect to Naniwa or his cut & paste apology. Being an adult and a professional means being able to control yourself, which is something he has failed to show he is capable of time and time again. Also, i dislike the asking to reconsider for a second chance. He openly disrespected GOM during a tournament that was meant to celebrate a great year of StarCraft. It's only a month, he can and should wait. I don't understand where everyone gets this sense of entitlement from. You mess up, you accept your punishment, and you learn from it for next time.


The statement isnt necessarily cut and paste. Are you assuming that someone else wrote it because of how well written it is? That's kind of obnoxious.

Also, maybe he honestly didn't realize how disrespectful his actions were to ANOTHER CULTURE. Ignorance is not an excuse, and so I think his penalty is just. Hopefully we'll see him learn from his mistake and understand Korean culture better.


Not just Korean culture. This is a lesson for all of us. No matter what country we visit for SC2 or otherwise, we must abide by and respect all cultures and learn what the particulars and subtleties are.

Whether it be Sweden, Korea, France, any location. The responsibility is ours to learn the target location culture.
Canada
Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
December 14 2011 23:05 GMT
#518
Naniwa just won back some cred in my eyes.

Well said, broski. Here's to hoping that mindset sticks, because it's exactly what will carry him to ever higher levels of pro-gaming stardom.

They aren't asking that GOM lets him back into the code S spot, they're asking that they not be jaded to the notion of him getting one in the future. Very fair, and GOM has said that they aren't going to be that harsh.
"I like to tape my thumbs to my hands to see what it would be like to be a dinosaur."
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
December 14 2011 23:05 GMT
#519
Chin up, Nani. Glad to see some professionalism, and I'll keep rooting for you as always.
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
December 14 2011 23:06 GMT
#520
Handled in the best possible manner.

Thank you.

Good luck in the future Nani, Quantic and GOMTV.
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