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cive
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada370 Posts
December 14 2011 22:37 GMT
#481
On December 15 2011 06:38 Paladia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:30 chadissilent wrote:
That apology wasn't written by NaNiwa, Quantic PR wrote it up for him.

As I am Swedish myself, some of the wordings in the text and the order of the words sounds very typical for a Swede. My guess is that Quantic asked Naniwa for some words and then Quantic rephrased some of it a bit to look and sound better and with less errors.


Doesn't matter who wrote it. If Naniwa signs it, it's his words.

It's the best possible ending to the mess. Naniwa is a cool character. I hope he sticks around longer.
Play Terran
cavalier117
Profile Joined April 2011
United States430 Posts
December 14 2011 22:37 GMT
#482
dont sweat it Nani!

life goes on, so will you. you will be back, and you will stomp even more nerds in 2012!
Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.
Covalent
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States28 Posts
December 14 2011 22:39 GMT
#483
Thank you, Quantic, for sticking behind your player. It's nice to see a team backing a new player (regardless of their reputation). And though Nani is someone that I more or less "love to hate," I feel for him here. I've gained a bit more respect for him after reading his apology. I wish the best for Quantic and Nani!
Liquid'HerO fighting!!!!! <3
Jim7
Profile Joined December 2010
United States154 Posts
December 14 2011 22:39 GMT
#484
Good stuff and hopefully everyone is "satisfied".

I also hope that GOM learns from this too. Naniwa isn't the only one at fault. They need to do their best at avoiding these "dead" games where they need to be played but are just meaningless show matches.
Rassefrasse
Profile Joined May 2011
18 Posts
December 14 2011 22:40 GMT
#485
Let's not overlook Naniwa's previous attitude toward gaming and his character in interviews.

Is it likely that Naniwa wrote his own statement and that he believes it? According to me, after having spent several hours watching Naniwa material over the past year, I would say it is not.

Even if he does believe his statement a punishment is required. People cannot act reckless on live (paid) stream when they are the entertainment and expect not receive a penatly of some sort.

Short post shorter: GomTV are doing the right thing putting down their foot showing that they are not to be messed with.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
December 14 2011 22:40 GMT
#486
ok, that closes the chapter for me. If you lose, dont lose the lesson and I hope everyone learns from what happened. good night.
keep it deep! @zulison
Fandango
Profile Joined October 2011
291 Posts
December 14 2011 22:41 GMT
#487
Honestly would've preferred Naniwa to have not apologised, it validates a terrible precedent but he's being forced into it otherwise he could end up locking himself out of future competitions or positive situations. Corporate fan appeasement disingenuity 1 serious competitive approach to games as a legitimate (e)sport 0.

Whether he should want to play every single game to the fullest or not, forcing him to fake it for the sake of entertainment television is not a thing we should be approving of.
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3137 Posts
December 14 2011 22:41 GMT
#488
I really appreciate the apology from Naniwa. It was very well said, and more than satisfied my feelings on the matter. Hopefully, this will herald a new place for him in his career as a progamer.

If he does indeed follow up on this promise to behave more professionally, I look forward to supporting him wholeheartedly in the future. Until then, I will continue to wish him well. Godspeed, Naniwa.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
lrofd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States187 Posts
December 14 2011 22:41 GMT
#489
and the mvp award goes to : quantic gaming.
well played, gg, so well handled
Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
December 14 2011 22:42 GMT
#490
On December 15 2011 07:31 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 07:29 azka wrote:
Naniwa accepted he was wrong. His fans should do the same.


Of course it was a stupid thing to do, but GOM's reaction was also quite extreme


That can hardly be said, GOM didn't really do anything.

All the said was you were probably going to be invited into Code S, but we don't want to invite people of your attitude into Code S.
Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
December 14 2011 22:43 GMT
#491
On December 15 2011 07:39 Jim7 wrote:
Good stuff and hopefully everyone is "satisfied".

I also hope that GOM learns from this too. Naniwa isn't the only one at fault. They need to do their best at avoiding these "dead" games where they need to be played but are just meaningless show matches.


The OSL has dead games for years and yet no one has complained.
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
December 14 2011 22:43 GMT
#492
Gotta feel bad for quantic. Acquire new player--issue formal apology to GOM and the Esports world 1-week later :o
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3137 Posts
December 14 2011 22:43 GMT
#493
Few things annoy me more than people second-guessing the stated, transcribed words of progamers based on the bizarre, stupid idea that because they've watched a few of their games they somehow "know" the progamer, and he would never say anything like that.

You don't know Naniwa. He said these words, and approved them. Get over it.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Fafel
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 22:48:57
December 14 2011 22:46 GMT
#494
On December 15 2011 07:08 LunaSea wrote:
We came to a point where GOM.tv has so much power that even when they make stupid arbitrary decisions players and teams have to redeem, backpedall and write an apology messages...
This really disgusts me ! This is nowhere near eSport !

This is something I cant stop thinking about as a truth. I think this also covers LiquidTyler statement with which I also agree. I haven't been ever fan of Naniwa as human being, example of behavior and maturity and I didn't have to cause it wasn't necessary for anyone. However I was always fan of his skill, determination and that I could count on him as a foreigner that could win with some Koreans that thought they were unstoppable. I don't like Naniwa's apology because it somehow deny his nature and I rather have see harsh and surly player but honest with himself than forced against himself to be nice and submissive. But... The apology was necessary strategic and marketing move so I accept it and hope he will get into next season and kick some asses.
I watched this game and I didn't fell that something was stolen from even if I pay for it cause players are not some slaves. Moreover there were 3 more games that wasn't planned so still 2 more than supposed to be.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
December 14 2011 22:46 GMT
#495
On December 15 2011 07:43 Audemed wrote:
Gotta feel bad for quantic. Acquire new player--issue formal apology to GOM and the Esports world 1-week later :o

If anything I think this incident has improved Quantic's reputation by a lot.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 22:47:30
December 14 2011 22:46 GMT
#496
He has decided against participating in the coming GSL season as a statement of his sincere regret and in the hopes that he may have a future opportunity to compete in GSL against the world’s best


OMG why would you do that? Your punishment was more than enough as it is. At least this was a sincere apology, which is more than I can say for GomTV's statement.
BenAD
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia28 Posts
December 14 2011 22:47 GMT
#497
I sincerely hope that Naniwa actually means what he says.

I can understand how he felt, I'm sure most of us have been there, you try really hard and lose a few close games against people who are really hard to beat, and then you have to play another game where you have nothing to gain and everything to lose (Considering that Naniwa beat Nestea at MLG). Its hard to pick yourself up and play another game at that level.

However making it so obvious he was putting in no effort wasn't the right way to do it at the pro level. People are paying money to watch you play, to broadcast your games, to get you to play in these events. You need to put on a show for them in every game you play.

Still I really don't think the game should of gone ahead, its unlikely both players would be playing their peak game or even using the particular build they have prepared just for that game against each other. We don't play out all of the best of 3 or 7s, as soon as a game has no impact in a tournament (for both players), it shouldn't be played.

Hopefully both sides will go away and next time we both won't have to watch a game where two players are out of the tournament and are not going to play their best and that players who have nothing on line, still put on an entertaining game for the fans and for the people that helped them get that far.
YMCApylons
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Taiwan359 Posts
December 14 2011 22:47 GMT
#498
On December 15 2011 07:41 lrofd wrote:
and the mvp award goes to : quantic gaming.
well played, gg, so well handled


I'm pretty sure the MVP award goes to Complexity Gaming.
You must construct additional pylons.
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
December 14 2011 22:48 GMT
#499
Good statement.
Silly he won't compete and try to get into GSL the normal way though. It would really be something if he just competed through qualification & code A to earn himself that code S for next season. It seems like they are hoping GOMTV will give Nani his code S spot for the second season or that he just hopes to get it through other ways again.
HiTeK532
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada171 Posts
December 14 2011 22:50 GMT
#500
This is gonna do wonders for their rivalry
I play games not girls
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