EPTOn October 29 2011 03:31 Seide wrote:
Replicate SCV, spam OCs, spam mules.
Replicate SCV, spam OCs, spam mules.
Not if I open reaper expand... Keke, enjoy your 200m200g SCV getting sniped.
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Hattori_Hanzo
Singapore1229 Posts
Not if I open reaper expand... Keke, enjoy your 200m200g SCV getting sniped. | ||
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zmansman17
United States2567 Posts
It wouldn't do anything while my scvs are mining, but once I pull all of them away, BAM no more drop | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On October 29 2011 03:55 zmansman17 wrote: What if I just kept a shredder in my mineral line for drops, right? It wouldn't do anything while my scvs are mining, but once I pull all of them away, BAM no more drop Depends what kind of drops. Lings maybe, but Marauders/Roaches will just kill it in 2seconds and move on | ||
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pezit
Sweden302 Posts
On October 29 2011 01:56 Exactable wrote: I see this talk of copying an SCV and then from then on only making SCVs and Orbtials instead of Nexi and probes (and more?) and it just feels off to me. It's TvP, not Tv(some wierd Protoss/Terran hybrid) :/ Yeah if this actually becomes a good way to play... That would actually be horrible. | ||
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Azerbaijan
United States660 Posts
I can't imagine that actually being implemented, it's too ridiculous. What is happening to this game>!? | ||
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nerak
Brazil256 Posts
On October 29 2011 04:10 Azerbaijan wrote: Did miss where its mentioned that a replicated scv or drone can build from their own tech trees? I can't imagine that actually being implemented, it's too ridiculous. What is happening to this game>!? The same that happened to BW? | ||
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pezit
Sweden302 Posts
On October 29 2011 04:10 Azerbaijan wrote: Did miss where its mentioned that a replicated scv or drone can build from their own tech trees? I can't imagine that actually being implemented, it's too ridiculous. What is happening to this game>!? You can mind control with dark archons in broodwar, but it sucks so it was never used. But hell why not create a unit which is entirely based on that horrible mechanic? Sounds like an awesome idea! And to answer your question: Dustin Browder happened to this game. | ||
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Azerbaijan
United States660 Posts
I don't follow? | ||
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Krikkitone
United States1451 Posts
Or with NP (although highly impractical, it could be done... with Terrans it would take multiple Infestors and just be playing around... with Protoss 1 Infestor... but the Nexus can't move somewhere safe.) | ||
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Azerbaijan
United States660 Posts
The replicator would be along the lines of "oh look I have vision of the scv's with an obs just chilling over the mineral line; cool terran tech tree here I come". Just a dumb mechanic. Might as well just pick terran before you hit find match. On October 29 2011 04:20 pezit wrote: You can mind control with dark archons in broodwar, but it sucks so it was never used. But hell why not create a unit which is entirely based on that horrible mechanic? Sounds like an awesome idea! And to answer your question: Dustin Browder happened to this game. I wouldn't call the BW mechanic horrible. It is terribly impractical but my point is that in BW if you wanted your opponent's tech tree you had to work hard for it and it wasn't too unusual to see dark archons in BW progames even if they were for maelstrom and feedback most often. In HoTS they will be taking an impractical mechanic and making it ludicrous. I wish Dustin Browder would just go back to C&C. He's making me very sad. | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On October 29 2011 04:22 Krikkitone wrote: Or with NP (although highly impractical, it could be done... with Terrans it would take multiple Infestors and just be playing around... with Protoss 1 Infestor... but the Nexus can't move somewhere safe.) Well actually getting a DA, researching MC, waiting for a shuttle, waiting for energy, going over to your opponent's base, MCing an scv, picking it up, getting it back home safely, starting a Hatch or CC.. Thats a lot of fucking work. So it doesn't break the game. This is a gateway unit (if I'm not mistaken) that you can warp in in like 3 seconds and it has unlimited range.......... so an invisible observer can stand at the edge of his base and spot an scv for the replicator to use. Its completely broken. Its a cool idea, but just make it a lot harder to replicate a unit and it would work well.. things to change .. range (duh) make it expensive as hell or just higher up the tech tree (need both dt and ht buildings maybe?).. there are a bunch of things.. I'm not opposed to the idea, I just don't like the way its currently implemented. But it is alpha so whatevs. Edit: LOL ninjaed by Azerbaijan | ||
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pezit
Sweden302 Posts
On October 29 2011 04:28 Azerbaijan wrote: If we`re talking about the Dark Archon stealing an scv for zealot/tank recall nonsense I guess I can agree with you to an extent except that it was highly impractical and if you were dedicated to trolling hard enough to actually mind control an scv and get it to safety while managing to not lose the game you deserve to recall tanks. Same thing with NP, if you manage to NP a worker, immediately build a nexus/cc, keep it alive long enough to start building the tech tree without losing the game you probably deserve to do so no matter how impractical. The replicator would be along the lines of "oh look I have vision of the scv's with an obs just chilling over the mineral line; cool terran tech tree here I come". Just a dumb mechanic. Might as well just pick terran before you hit find match. I wouldn't call the BW mechanic horrible. It is terribly impractical but my point is that in BW if you wanted your opponent's tech tree you had to work hard for it and it wasn't too unusual to see dark archons in BW progames even if they were for maelstrom and feedback most often. In HoTS they will be taking an impractical mechanic and making it ludicrous. I wish Dustin Browder would just go back to C&C. He's making me very sad. Mind control in BW is fine because it's just one ability on a cool spellcaster, as you said it had two other abilities that were actually good and then you had the mind control to BM  | ||
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Weemoed
Netherlands741 Posts
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Azerbaijan
United States660 Posts
On October 29 2011 04:47 pezit wrote: Mind control in BW is fine because it's just one ability on a cool spellcaster, as you said it had two other abilities that were actually good and then you had the mind control to BM No mind control is fine in BW because you had to work super hard to put yourself in a position where it was safe to attempt anything with it,BM or not. Then you had more work to actually do whatever it was that you planned to do. The replicator is not fine because the entire idea of it is "i see you are having trouble against this certain terran strategy that would be easily countered by siege tanks. Here, now you have those siege tanks and hell, if thats not enough you`re only one more replicator away from the entire terran tech tree." Terrible game design in my opinion. | ||
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
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Azerbaijan
United States660 Posts
On October 29 2011 04:56 McFeser wrote: No one has talked about the possibility of replicating a drone. Replicate the drone --> Create a hatchery --> create more drones --> create a spawning pool --> make a queen --> now you can support mass zerglings with chronoboost and larva inject at the same time. Zergling with chrono boost will take 18 seconds to create and one single chrone boost could be shared on the entire hatchery. Thats just as ridiculous as replicating an scv and spamming OCs for mules. This is why I can't see this actually being implemented. Its either going to be completely useless because you will die trying pay for 2 tech trees or its going to be completely game breaking because you are going to end up with Protoss having chronoboost and inject larvae or mules. It is just completely ridiculous. | ||
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skindin
Canada8 Posts
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pezit
Sweden302 Posts
On October 29 2011 05:05 skindin wrote: i'm not sure if this has been said but i want to replicate medivacs for zealot medivac pushes, zealots are already tough if i could heal them they would be invincible It's just not worth to pay 200/200 for a medivac, and if you think it is you're wrong. The only thing that MIGHT be worth it is caster units, and even then it will be highly situational and gimmicky. | ||
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Colour415
Canada26 Posts
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
On October 29 2011 04:28 Azerbaijan wrote: If we`re talking about the Dark Archon stealing an scv for zealot/tank recall nonsense I guess I can agree with you to an extent except that it was highly impractical and if you were dedicated to trolling hard enough to actually mind control an scv and get it to safety while managing to not lose the game you deserve to recall tanks. Same thing with NP, if you manage to NP a worker, immediately build a nexus/cc, keep it alive long enough to start building the tech tree without losing the game you probably deserve to do so no matter how impractical. I agree good sir! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0xOqZ.png) | ||
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