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hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
October 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#721
Best thing about the Viper:
COLOSSUS CAN'T HIT IT
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
October 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#722
On October 22 2011 01:45 zeehar wrote:
units are actually quite gimmicky, especially the two protoss ground units.


This is the problem I have with this. Maybe it will be awesome, maybe it will fuck up the game beyond recognition.
exKid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom118 Posts
October 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#723
"What we need is a Lurker, that isn't a Lurker, but behaves and is used JUST like a Lurker"
I grant you the swarm host...

Just bite the bullet and put Lurkers in for christ sake, Blizz being too proud again.
divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
October 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#724
Is anyone else underwhelmed with these? Perhaps seeing them in action will change my mind but these additions just don't seem right.
Skype: divito7
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
October 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#725
On October 22 2011 01:48 hugman wrote:
Best thing about the Viper:
COLOSSUS CAN'T HIT IT


Unless the Tempest replaces it T_T
YumYumGranola
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada346 Posts
October 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#726
On October 22 2011 01:30 ZAiNs wrote:
Tempest sounds like something that gets smashed by Vikings.


Except it has an AoE air attack which would be very bad for viking clouds.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
October 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#727
The viper may be a hydra upgrade:!!!!!!
High Risk Low Reward
alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
October 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#728
On October 22 2011 01:46 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 01:43 alepov wrote:
On October 22 2011 01:42 meowmeow- wrote:
How is the warhound different from the Thor, btw?

probably gonna be more like goliath, so not as slow and retarded like thor, faster anti air fire rate

mutas will still magic box and thus counter them, unless it's a different aoe

well or they'll be cheaper/less food so you can actually make more than 2
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
October 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#729
Warhound = Goliath.
Battlehellion = Firebat

Viper = Defiler

I am pretty psyched for these. The Protoss ones seem a bit weird, though.
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
October 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#730
Hmm ... I wonder what tier the "new" dark swarm is gonna be. ZvZ is gonna look pretty strange if the new dark swarm makes roaches useless. Maybe roaches will be able to toggle on their melee attack?
Bora Pain minha porra!
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
October 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#731
On October 22 2011 01:47 Toppp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 01:45 zeehar wrote:
units are actually quite gimmicky, especially the two protoss ground units.

the warhound looks horrible.


Protoss ground units? Hm...?


lol my bad. was meaning to refer to the units that weren't the tempest
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ABagOfFritos
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
October 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#732
I see no reason to think units will be removed. When Brood War was released, units weren't removed to make room for the new ones.
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
October 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#733
just build 50 replicants and copy a terran army = win
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 16:49:35
October 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#734
Any more Details on the Swarm Host?

It operates while burrowed, which reminds me of lurkers but instead it spawns units like a broodlord.
Would it be reasonable to assume that it's a lurker/broodlord hybrid? I have a really good feeling it would morph from a roach....


Then again, maybe I just miss broodwar too much
Otori
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden164 Posts
October 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#735
Best part of this is reading all the dumb theorycrafting when ppl really still have no clue about the units (cost/effeciency etc) and already whining about balance, lol
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
October 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#736
The tempest is a CAPITAL SHIP, its clearly there to replace the useless carrier.
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
October 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#737
So what happened to the Zerg unit which destroyed bunkers?
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kef
Profile Joined September 2010
283 Posts
October 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#738
I don't really see what all the QQ is about. This looks awesome. I'm sure that they've already taken into account balancing shredder drops. Only 2 new units for zerg? Their 2 new units are easily better than the 3 new units each for P and T.

FFS can we at least wait till HotS comes out before we QQ about balance?
There are two kinds of people in this world: people who say there are two kinds of people in the world and people who know the first group of people are full of shit.
iPDubsteP
Profile Joined January 2011
United States188 Posts
October 21 2011 16:49 GMT
#739
yeah everyone votes no for terran units, hey ppl, these units will probably be for campaign only, maybe just 1 will be added to multiplayer to replace a different unit.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ YOU'S TROLLIN'!!!
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
October 21 2011 16:49 GMT
#740
I don't really follow Blizzard on the Protoss unit

Obviously the Oracle is meant to be the Protoss harassment unit, but unless it can actually KILL something, I don't see it being used too often, the Protoss army is already weaker due to the necessity of Sentries, and combined with Replicants (Which I'm assuming can't attack until they replicate into something) I don't see Protoss being effective cost-for-cost.

On top of that, the Tempest (If it does replace the Mothership) will be another Stargate unit that sees little to no play, due to cost and effectiveness in battle.
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