• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 10:34
CET 16:34
KST 00:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1862 users

[September] SC2 General Discussion - Page 4

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 12 13 14 Next All
SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
September 10 2011 05:29 GMT
#61
On September 10 2011 14:03 Mutt_Boi wrote:
I'm trying to watch the GOM TV allstar game, but I keep on getting this message.

Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (gomcmd) isn't associated with any program.


Please help!!


Did you install the gom player already?

http://download.cnet.com/GOM-Media-Player/3000-13632_4-10551786.html?part=dl-GOMMediaP&subj=dl&tag=button
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
September 10 2011 05:40 GMT
#62
Okay. I'm sure this is an old question but I just recently started watching SC2 after years of being a BW fan.Ireally want to get into SC2 due to all the foreigner involvement that you don't see anymore in the latter years of BW. But watching the game seems really lacking for a very simple reason.

Clumped armies

I hate it. I loathe it. I feel like everything that's bad with SC2 from a spectator's perspective comes from clumped armies. Note I say spectator's perspective, since I enjoy playing the game just fine. But watching the game is a whole different story.

Clumped armies make 200 vs 200 army clashes look like one blob vs another blob. It makes AOE attacks devastating so that entire armies die in a couple of seconds from AOE spells or attacks. It also make it hard to notice details because details get destroyed when you're watching blobs of armies.

So why can't Blizzard make armies a little more spread out. I mean, I saw a recent trailer of HOTS and the engagement was "spread out" to make things look more epic. So why is the game so different? It's hard to be epic when a swarm is not a swarm but just a ball that dies to a couple of tank splashes.

I
Meh
Baseic
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands310 Posts
September 10 2011 12:15 GMT
#63
On September 10 2011 14:40 baubo wrote:
Okay. I'm sure this is an old question but I just recently started watching SC2 after years of being a BW fan.Ireally want to get into SC2 due to all the foreigner involvement that you don't see anymore in the latter years of BW. But watching the game seems really lacking for a very simple reason.

Clumped armies

I hate it. I loathe it. I feel like everything that's bad with SC2 from a spectator's perspective comes from clumped armies. Note I say spectator's perspective, since I enjoy playing the game just fine. But watching the game is a whole different story.

Clumped armies make 200 vs 200 army clashes look like one blob vs another blob. It makes AOE attacks devastating so that entire armies die in a couple of seconds from AOE spells or attacks. It also make it hard to notice details because details get destroyed when you're watching blobs of armies.

So why can't Blizzard make armies a little more spread out. I mean, I saw a recent trailer of HOTS and the engagement was "spread out" to make things look more epic. So why is the game so different? It's hard to be epic when a swarm is not a swarm but just a ball that dies to a couple of tank splashes.

I


Heard this a million times before, but we can't just go away from the clumping system, the whole game is balanced around it.
The HotS trailer just took alot of effort, spreading all the units beforehand etc.
Etc.
2v2ApexKillaR
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany91 Posts
September 10 2011 12:20 GMT
#64
your fault if you clump your army.
We didnt lose. We just ran out of time.
Baseic
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands310 Posts
September 10 2011 12:27 GMT
#65
On September 10 2011 21:20 ApexKillaR wrote:
your fault if you clump your army.

Great post. No really.

It's not about him clumping, it's about the loss of epic battles.
Games in BW rarely came till 200/200, but because the units spread so well the battles looked way more epic and micro was way more interesting.
Etc.
Vahriel
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia73 Posts
September 10 2011 13:10 GMT
#66
Hey guys, I was wondering, is it worth it to get a Taiwanese Account for the Korean server, for someone who wants to get a lot better at the game, but is still currently in Platnium, should I just focus on getting up to Masters+ in NA before I consider getting a Korean account, or would joining the Korean server help me even now, thanks~
ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ uı ǝןıɥʍuɐǝɯ
Baseic
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands310 Posts
September 10 2011 13:14 GMT
#67
On September 10 2011 22:10 Vahriel wrote:
Hey guys, I was wondering, is it worth it to get a Taiwanese Account for the Korean server, for someone who wants to get a lot better at the game, but is still currently in Platnium, should I just focus on getting up to Masters+ in NA before I consider getting a Korean account, or would joining the Korean server help me even now, thanks~

Until you're top masters, there is no difference between korean or NA servers. Only difference would be that you will be silver/gold there.
Etc.
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
September 10 2011 13:16 GMT
#68
On September 10 2011 22:14 Baseic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 22:10 Vahriel wrote:
Hey guys, I was wondering, is it worth it to get a Taiwanese Account for the Korean server, for someone who wants to get a lot better at the game, but is still currently in Platnium, should I just focus on getting up to Masters+ in NA before I consider getting a Korean account, or would joining the Korean server help me even now, thanks~

Until you're top masters, there is no difference between korean or NA servers. Only difference would be that you will be silver/gold there.

And some lag/delay of course. Stick to NA in my opinion. ^__^
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
September 10 2011 13:19 GMT
#69
who is casting NASL this season?
PolishxThunder
Profile Joined May 2011
United States153 Posts
September 10 2011 15:00 GMT
#70
On September 10 2011 22:10 Vahriel wrote:
Hey guys, I was wondering, is it worth it to get a Taiwanese Account for the Korean server, for someone who wants to get a lot better at the game, but is still currently in Platnium, should I just focus on getting up to Masters+ in NA before I consider getting a Korean account, or would joining the Korean server help me even now, thanks~


I'm currently failing 7th grade science but should I sign up for AP Biology?
Moxi
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
708 Posts
September 10 2011 17:30 GMT
#71
On September 11 2011 00:00 PolishxThunder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 22:10 Vahriel wrote:
Hey guys, I was wondering, is it worth it to get a Taiwanese Account for the Korean server, for someone who wants to get a lot better at the game, but is still currently in Platnium, should I just focus on getting up to Masters+ in NA before I consider getting a Korean account, or would joining the Korean server help me even now, thanks~


I'm currently failing 7th grade science but should I sign up for AP Biology?


This ^--^
Aiurr
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland80 Posts
September 10 2011 17:34 GMT
#72
If I want to constantly make marines, tanks and SCVs, how many factories / barracks should I have at 1 base / 2 bases / 3 bases ?
Go for the eyes, Boo, go for the eyes!
Baseic
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands310 Posts
September 10 2011 19:47 GMT
#73
Today I have played ~8 tosses, 5 of those games were on Shakuras, TDA or Antiga.
I'm used to every toss and his mother doing FFE on this map, but for some reason none of them actually did this, is this a metagame shift or just coincidence.
If it's a metagame shift, why did it shift?
Etc.
kofman
Profile Joined August 2011
Andorra698 Posts
September 10 2011 20:36 GMT
#74
On September 11 2011 02:34 Aiurr wrote:
If I want to constantly make marines, tanks and SCVs, how many factories / barracks should I have at 1 base / 2 bases / 3 bases ?


On 2 bases, you should have 7 rax, 2 factories, and 1 starport, (no addons on rax or starport, tech labs on factories) if you have full saturation, you should be able to produce 7 marines, 2 tanks, and a medivac non-stop.
Egyptian_Head
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa508 Posts
September 10 2011 21:59 GMT
#75
How important is it to learn specific match ups, timings and all that jazz? I play random and I am in gold league, I mostly just stuff around doing stupid tactics. The only time I really lose is some early push or If im doing something totally stupid. If I want to get up to diamond do I really need to learn serious strategies, build orders instead of winging every game? Or is diamond bad enough that I can just power through by having better macro and relying on cheap tricks?
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 11 2011 02:20 GMT
#76
I thought about phrasing this delicately but I don't want to give you the wrong impression. Without build orders you're unlikely to make it past platinum. Maybe you do get up to diamond. But you won't survive.

Learn builds.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
September 11 2011 02:49 GMT
#77
Why can't you build a creep tumor on a ramp?
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 11 2011 03:02 GMT
#78
Because you can't build anything else on a ramp. Why would creep tumors be different?
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
darunia
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States139 Posts
September 11 2011 03:08 GMT
#79
On September 11 2011 12:02 Probe1 wrote:
Because you can't build anything else on a ramp. Why would creep tumors be different?


The tumor must be on level ground. It can't properly metabolize the extra creep if at an extreme angle due to the positioning of the fraumen glands.
If it sounds good, it is good.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
September 11 2011 03:35 GMT
#80
Why do people assume there is only one way to play, then when they lose to a different style they call you bad because of it? Some guy just raged on me and called me an idiot because I opened 1 base roach in zvz when he opened tons of speedlings with a faster expansion... i just chilled on one base, got more drones and a few roaches then moved out with a fastish +1 on my roaches and took my expansion and had full saturation when it popped.

Apparently I am an idiot and a bad player, even though he lost.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 12 13 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV 2025
11:00
Championship Sunday
Classic vs SHINLIVE!
TBD vs Clem
WardiTV2588
ComeBackTV 1915
TaKeTV 686
Rex170
CosmosSc2 109
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 170
CosmosSc2 109
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4858
Rain 2570
Shuttle 1433
Horang2 1372
EffOrt 1033
GuemChi 679
Soma 590
Stork 533
Light 457
firebathero 237
[ Show more ]
Last 175
hero 171
ggaemo 157
Hyun 145
Sharp 132
Rush 127
Mini 122
Bonyth 101
Barracks 76
soO 50
Movie 42
Yoon 39
ToSsGirL 28
Killer 26
910 20
HiyA 19
Terrorterran 18
zelot 12
SilentControl 9
Dota 2
Gorgc7078
singsing4190
qojqva2338
syndereN78
Counter-Strike
allub196
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor514
Liquid`Hasu335
Other Games
B2W.Neo1748
Hui .393
Fuzer 304
Liquid`VortiX116
KnowMe113
Mew2King85
ArmadaUGS39
Organizations
Other Games
PGL854
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 15
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 14
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• HappyZerGling77
League of Legends
• Jankos2828
Upcoming Events
Ladder Legends
1h 26m
BSL 21
4h 26m
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
Replay Cast
17h 26m
Wardi Open
20h 26m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 1h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.