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SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
September 10 2011 05:29 GMT
#61
On September 10 2011 14:03 Mutt_Boi wrote:
I'm trying to watch the GOM TV allstar game, but I keep on getting this message.

Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (gomcmd) isn't associated with any program.


Please help!!


Did you install the gom player already?

http://download.cnet.com/GOM-Media-Player/3000-13632_4-10551786.html?part=dl-GOMMediaP&subj=dl&tag=button
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
September 10 2011 05:40 GMT
#62
Okay. I'm sure this is an old question but I just recently started watching SC2 after years of being a BW fan.Ireally want to get into SC2 due to all the foreigner involvement that you don't see anymore in the latter years of BW. But watching the game seems really lacking for a very simple reason.

Clumped armies

I hate it. I loathe it. I feel like everything that's bad with SC2 from a spectator's perspective comes from clumped armies. Note I say spectator's perspective, since I enjoy playing the game just fine. But watching the game is a whole different story.

Clumped armies make 200 vs 200 army clashes look like one blob vs another blob. It makes AOE attacks devastating so that entire armies die in a couple of seconds from AOE spells or attacks. It also make it hard to notice details because details get destroyed when you're watching blobs of armies.

So why can't Blizzard make armies a little more spread out. I mean, I saw a recent trailer of HOTS and the engagement was "spread out" to make things look more epic. So why is the game so different? It's hard to be epic when a swarm is not a swarm but just a ball that dies to a couple of tank splashes.

I
Meh
Baseic
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands310 Posts
September 10 2011 12:15 GMT
#63
On September 10 2011 14:40 baubo wrote:
Okay. I'm sure this is an old question but I just recently started watching SC2 after years of being a BW fan.Ireally want to get into SC2 due to all the foreigner involvement that you don't see anymore in the latter years of BW. But watching the game seems really lacking for a very simple reason.

Clumped armies

I hate it. I loathe it. I feel like everything that's bad with SC2 from a spectator's perspective comes from clumped armies. Note I say spectator's perspective, since I enjoy playing the game just fine. But watching the game is a whole different story.

Clumped armies make 200 vs 200 army clashes look like one blob vs another blob. It makes AOE attacks devastating so that entire armies die in a couple of seconds from AOE spells or attacks. It also make it hard to notice details because details get destroyed when you're watching blobs of armies.

So why can't Blizzard make armies a little more spread out. I mean, I saw a recent trailer of HOTS and the engagement was "spread out" to make things look more epic. So why is the game so different? It's hard to be epic when a swarm is not a swarm but just a ball that dies to a couple of tank splashes.

I


Heard this a million times before, but we can't just go away from the clumping system, the whole game is balanced around it.
The HotS trailer just took alot of effort, spreading all the units beforehand etc.
Etc.
2v2ApexKillaR
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany91 Posts
September 10 2011 12:20 GMT
#64
your fault if you clump your army.
We didnt lose. We just ran out of time.
Baseic
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands310 Posts
September 10 2011 12:27 GMT
#65
On September 10 2011 21:20 ApexKillaR wrote:
your fault if you clump your army.

Great post. No really.

It's not about him clumping, it's about the loss of epic battles.
Games in BW rarely came till 200/200, but because the units spread so well the battles looked way more epic and micro was way more interesting.
Etc.
Vahriel
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia73 Posts
September 10 2011 13:10 GMT
#66
Hey guys, I was wondering, is it worth it to get a Taiwanese Account for the Korean server, for someone who wants to get a lot better at the game, but is still currently in Platnium, should I just focus on getting up to Masters+ in NA before I consider getting a Korean account, or would joining the Korean server help me even now, thanks~
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Baseic
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands310 Posts
September 10 2011 13:14 GMT
#67
On September 10 2011 22:10 Vahriel wrote:
Hey guys, I was wondering, is it worth it to get a Taiwanese Account for the Korean server, for someone who wants to get a lot better at the game, but is still currently in Platnium, should I just focus on getting up to Masters+ in NA before I consider getting a Korean account, or would joining the Korean server help me even now, thanks~

Until you're top masters, there is no difference between korean or NA servers. Only difference would be that you will be silver/gold there.
Etc.
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
September 10 2011 13:16 GMT
#68
On September 10 2011 22:14 Baseic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 22:10 Vahriel wrote:
Hey guys, I was wondering, is it worth it to get a Taiwanese Account for the Korean server, for someone who wants to get a lot better at the game, but is still currently in Platnium, should I just focus on getting up to Masters+ in NA before I consider getting a Korean account, or would joining the Korean server help me even now, thanks~

Until you're top masters, there is no difference between korean or NA servers. Only difference would be that you will be silver/gold there.

And some lag/delay of course. Stick to NA in my opinion. ^__^
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
September 10 2011 13:19 GMT
#69
who is casting NASL this season?
PolishxThunder
Profile Joined May 2011
United States153 Posts
September 10 2011 15:00 GMT
#70
On September 10 2011 22:10 Vahriel wrote:
Hey guys, I was wondering, is it worth it to get a Taiwanese Account for the Korean server, for someone who wants to get a lot better at the game, but is still currently in Platnium, should I just focus on getting up to Masters+ in NA before I consider getting a Korean account, or would joining the Korean server help me even now, thanks~


I'm currently failing 7th grade science but should I sign up for AP Biology?
Moxi
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
708 Posts
September 10 2011 17:30 GMT
#71
On September 11 2011 00:00 PolishxThunder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 22:10 Vahriel wrote:
Hey guys, I was wondering, is it worth it to get a Taiwanese Account for the Korean server, for someone who wants to get a lot better at the game, but is still currently in Platnium, should I just focus on getting up to Masters+ in NA before I consider getting a Korean account, or would joining the Korean server help me even now, thanks~


I'm currently failing 7th grade science but should I sign up for AP Biology?


This ^--^
Aiurr
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland80 Posts
September 10 2011 17:34 GMT
#72
If I want to constantly make marines, tanks and SCVs, how many factories / barracks should I have at 1 base / 2 bases / 3 bases ?
Go for the eyes, Boo, go for the eyes!
Baseic
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands310 Posts
September 10 2011 19:47 GMT
#73
Today I have played ~8 tosses, 5 of those games were on Shakuras, TDA or Antiga.
I'm used to every toss and his mother doing FFE on this map, but for some reason none of them actually did this, is this a metagame shift or just coincidence.
If it's a metagame shift, why did it shift?
Etc.
kofman
Profile Joined August 2011
Andorra698 Posts
September 10 2011 20:36 GMT
#74
On September 11 2011 02:34 Aiurr wrote:
If I want to constantly make marines, tanks and SCVs, how many factories / barracks should I have at 1 base / 2 bases / 3 bases ?


On 2 bases, you should have 7 rax, 2 factories, and 1 starport, (no addons on rax or starport, tech labs on factories) if you have full saturation, you should be able to produce 7 marines, 2 tanks, and a medivac non-stop.
Egyptian_Head
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa508 Posts
September 10 2011 21:59 GMT
#75
How important is it to learn specific match ups, timings and all that jazz? I play random and I am in gold league, I mostly just stuff around doing stupid tactics. The only time I really lose is some early push or If im doing something totally stupid. If I want to get up to diamond do I really need to learn serious strategies, build orders instead of winging every game? Or is diamond bad enough that I can just power through by having better macro and relying on cheap tricks?
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 11 2011 02:20 GMT
#76
I thought about phrasing this delicately but I don't want to give you the wrong impression. Without build orders you're unlikely to make it past platinum. Maybe you do get up to diamond. But you won't survive.

Learn builds.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
September 11 2011 02:49 GMT
#77
Why can't you build a creep tumor on a ramp?
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 11 2011 03:02 GMT
#78
Because you can't build anything else on a ramp. Why would creep tumors be different?
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
darunia
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States139 Posts
September 11 2011 03:08 GMT
#79
On September 11 2011 12:02 Probe1 wrote:
Because you can't build anything else on a ramp. Why would creep tumors be different?


The tumor must be on level ground. It can't properly metabolize the extra creep if at an extreme angle due to the positioning of the fraumen glands.
If it sounds good, it is good.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
September 11 2011 03:35 GMT
#80
Why do people assume there is only one way to play, then when they lose to a different style they call you bad because of it? Some guy just raged on me and called me an idiot because I opened 1 base roach in zvz when he opened tons of speedlings with a faster expansion... i just chilled on one base, got more drones and a few roaches then moved out with a fastish +1 on my roaches and took my expansion and had full saturation when it popped.

Apparently I am an idiot and a bad player, even though he lost.
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