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akalarry
United States1978 Posts
On August 14 2011 05:12 jmbthirteen wrote: Actually the security deposit gives the contract worth. Break the contract, take money out of the security deposit. it seems to me that they didnt pay the security deposit though, since they were complaining about it | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On August 14 2011 05:09 Jinivus wrote: NASL, is there any word from SK regarding MC's eligibilty? I assume MC would have to adhere to SC2con's decission since he's still, at least partially, with oGs. I hope not though. Call me a weirdo but I became a NASL fan with this dick move from the Koreans. I couldn't stand NASL when they acted all superior and proclaimed themself as the greatest shit in eSports...but there's something about underdogs and guys that been wronged that captures me. +1 fan. | ||
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whateverpeeps
United States214 Posts
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tripper688
United States569 Posts
On August 13 2011 14:50 Haustka wrote: I agree the fact that SC2 isnt as popular as SC1 in Korea as ppl expected, but at the same time SC2 will eventually grow larger as we get more ppl and more talent. that means games will be a lot closer or more entertaining with new strategies. remember SC2 is still a very young game, and still has a lot of potential in everywhere in the World. and thats including Korea also. but yes one of these day America or Europe will have as much or more pros and sponsors compare to Korea, not yet though... it will take some time, id say at least five years or longer We already have more pros in the foreign scene. It's just that their pros have more skill. Skill gap doesn't diminish with more pros entering the scene, it diminishes when our pros get better and start rivaling theirs. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On August 14 2011 05:25 akalarry wrote: it seems to me that they didnt pay the security deposit though, since they were complaining about it Yes, in this situation it is that way. But I was talking about why the have the contract + the security deposit and how NASL wants them to work. | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On August 14 2011 05:24 Entroph wrote: I'm definitely on NASL's side in this matter - whether or not NASL are offsetting the cost enough to encourage Koreans to come over, the Korean teams should be more interested in becoming part of the global community. It's this mentality that's keeping the communities so seperate and encouraging top Koreans to switch to foreign teams. ... Which top korean switched again? IMNestea? IMMVP? OGSMC? Last I checked, every single top korean is still in Korea on a Korean team prioritising tournaments in Korea. The hype for Puma is exactly the same as the hype for Dong Rae Gu, and we all know how that ended when he fought top people. And Slayers pulled out too, citing it not being worth the cost, despite Slayers having tremendous success outside Korea (in fact, far more outside than they're having inside). Note they're not associated with SC2con, so it's not like this is smoke and mirrors. | ||
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Hedgehog
Macedonia73 Posts
With all their shortcomings NASL offered months of quality SC2 and that's what matters the most to me. | ||
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Jinivus
747 Posts
On August 14 2011 05:28 Longshank wrote: I assume MC would have to adhere to SC2con's decission since he's still, at least partially, with oGs. I hope not though. Call me a weirdo but I became a NASL fan with this dick move from the Koreans. I couldn't stand NASL when they acted all superior and proclaimed themself as the greatest shit in eSports...but there's something about underdogs and guys that been wronged that captures me. +1 fan. Probably, but I remain hopeful because at the beginning of the thread NASL said they emailed them about it, so obviously they aren't certain. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
I'm very angry at the sc2con or whoever made this decision, which is nearly blackmail btw. ANGRY. | ||
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NHY
1013 Posts
Recent disputes regarding NASL were not led my sc2con, but individual teams. We believe teams are preparing to make a statement on this issue. It is puzzling that NASL keeps mentioning sc2con. sc2con had no official communication to or from NASL. source: http://s2con.com/xe/Notice/8460 | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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booshtv
United States30 Posts
Any comment from NASL on why they are getting this wrong? This seems very confusing to me and I think there must be something lost in translation or something. | ||
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ShiftedX1
Poland5 Posts
I'm pretty much bored of watching Koreans win over and over again in pretty much every big tournament (MLG). Koreans in foreign teams is another story though. | ||
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hellopkb
United States5 Posts
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
All those "complaints" were known before signing Season 2 contract. If you have issue why sign the contract in the first place? Renegotiating a signed contract with threats is cheesy as hell anyway but pulling out as a block really makes this look like something bigger is taking place behind the scenes. | ||
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NHY
1013 Posts
On August 14 2011 07:36 hellopkb wrote: Hmmm.... SC2Con was mentioned nowhere in OP by NASL. It was mentioned number of times in NASL's reply. | ||
Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On August 14 2011 07:36 hellopkb wrote: Hmmm.... SC2Con was mentioned nowhere in OP by NASL. We are disappointed that the Korean Committee waited until the final hour, not only to make these demands but also to notify us of their withdrawal. On August 12 2011 08:12 NASL.tv wrote: Koreans such as Rain, PuMa, and Hero will still be participating as they are not bound to SC2Con decisions! We are still waiting for a decision from FXOsC On August 12 2011 08:14 NASL.tv wrote: BoxeR already declined participation (his withdrawal came before the SC2Con decision, but for similar reasons) | ||
Waxangel
United States33650 Posts
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NHY
1013 Posts
On August 14 2011 07:49 Waxangel wrote: dunno, the behavior of the korean teams in this entire ordeal seems to show they were acting in a unified manner, and involved all the member teams of S2con.... soooo I don't seen any effective difference, even if it wasn't "officially" an s2con negotiation. If you don't know which team belongs to s2con, then perhaps you shouldn't say such things... Edit: For others who might read this as well s2con members: FXOKorea, IM, MVP, NSHoSeo, oGs, TSL, Prime, StarTale, ZeNEX Korean teams mentioned in OP: oGs, StarTale, WeMadeFox, TSL, Prime | ||
ZodaSoda
Australia1191 Posts
On the other hand, players who played in NASL Season 1 didnt get their security deposit and pay check (from winning tournament). Also, SC2Con decide that except FXOKorea who emerged with FXOpen, all teams and players decide not to participate in Season ll of NASL . Written by member on the advisory board of s2con. Sounds to me like Sc2Con made a decision >.> | ||
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