Korean teams withdraw from NASL - Page 168

On August 14 2011 02:44 Daniel C wrote:
2. The remaining $1000 comes from the guaranteed $1000 prize money for a Ro16 finish (up from $500). So it's not really "compensation".

On August 14 2011 03:32 Grr Arr Rawr wrote:


How is it not? It's guaranteed money, and a concession made purely to to make the tournament more viable for players that otherwise struggle with the flight costs.

Let me put this another way:

At a 16-player Finals, with $1,000 travel stipends available for all qualifying players, the NASL is willing to spend $16k just to bring people to the Finals. For comparison, THE TOTAL PRIZEPOOL OF MLG IS $14k. That's in ADDITION to the $100,000 prizepool for NASL.

Jesus, people. How much more money do you think NASL's backer(s) should throw at this thing?

Some of you people are just seriously freaking clueless.

On August 14 2011 03:33 jackthelad wrote:
The NASL are light-weights. Its nothing to do with the actual deal, its because they pubically share details of the negotiations. Has anyone else realised just how bad that is? The Koreans must think they're dealing with a bunch of school kids. The NASL really has lost any moral, ethical or commerical high ground by doing that. We're talking about business dealings here. if contracts were actually in place they'd possibly be exposed to litigation by such behaviour. Seriously, think about it...that press release was the work of a sulking chlid! The NASL has a lot of growing up to do. Who cares if the koreans are in it or not...the koreans don't need it, anymore than the US NBA basketball teams need to go and play in Outer Mongolia's basketball competition.

On August 14 2011 03:33 jackthelad wrote:
The NASL are light-weights. Its nothing to do with the actual deal, its because they pubically share details of the negotiations. Has anyone else realised just how bad that is? The Koreans must think they're dealing with a bunch of school kids. The NASL really has lost any moral, ethical or commerical high ground by doing that. We're talking about business dealings here. if contracts were actually in place they'd possibly be exposed to litigation by such behaviour. Seriously, think about it...that press release was the work of a sulking chlid! The NASL has a lot of growing up to do. Who cares if the koreans are in it or not...the koreans don't need it, anymore than the US NBA basketball teams need to go and play in Outer Mongolia's basketball competition.

On August 14 2011 03:44 Mordiford wrote:


What the flying fuck are you talking about? There were contracts in place, but they aren't pursuing legal action thus far. What you rather they do?

"Hey guys, Koreans decided to peace out, can't tell you why!"

Obviously they have to explain the goings on behind the decision for the Koreans to withdraw or else everyone is confused and speculation will run rampant.

Your reasoning makes absolutely no sense.

On August 14 2011 02:22 Mordiford wrote:


Because it's a North American production and shipping everything over to Korea wouldn't be very productive for the scene here. All the really awesome, loud fans that even the Koreans speak well of would be sitting in the US with their arms crossed at their inability to attend the event, while most Korean fans would likely be less interested in the NASL, particularly since it would likely be unable to match the GSL's production without a lot of help in an unfamiliar setting.

This seems like an absolutely terrible idea, foreign fans are one of the main thing lauded in regards to foreign events, moving the production to Korea would be a huge lay-down. I'm glad the NASL is standing it's ground.

However, it is interesting that even Korean teams that aren't part of the restriction have withdrawn. I guess it's just not the right format for them, and the time can genuinely be a pain in the ass.

Also, I do think the format for the NASL is idiotic in that it's restrictive for no additional benefits. It's cast live and then goes through post production before being shown. Why not just cast from replays at an agreeable time instead of doing it all live? It's not being shown live anyways, the whole pump up for live games is that the game is happening right now, as you watch it(Maybe with a few minutes of stream delay), if you're not going to do that, what is the point of casting the games as they're happening? I can't really think of any real advantage.

As long as you don't fall further than a week behind, there shouldn't be an issue, people don't like seeing month old games but right now, the way the NASL goes about production makes absolutely zero sense.

On August 14 2011 03:43 akalarry wrote:


If they are willing to go to mlg or dreamhack for way less money, then OBVIOUSLY the reason they aren't willing to participate in NASL is some other reason. They aren't stupid you know.

On August 14 2011 03:47 gehgrfhgrh wrote:
I really fells like NASL is run by a bunch of students out of a garage. They wanted to create a big tournament and announced a huge prizepool to attract koreans and to hype it all up - but it failed horrible and now they don't have the money/sponsors they thought they would have.

On August 14 2011 03:48 Mordiford wrote:


Once again, what was the other option?

"The Koreans left, we can't tell you why, they just left because they didn't want to compete in our league"

Speculation would run rampant and you'd have an even bigger shitstorm on your hand.

I hope to heaven you're trolling.

On August 14 2011 04:10 jackthelad wrote:
But organisations that deal with the NASL now need to be aware that their negotiations might be made public. Sponsors beware also... I dont think the big corporates will take that kind of crap lightly. Could be their days are numbered unless they get some maturity in the management team...

On August 14 2011 04:10 jackthelad wrote:


Not trolling, just expressing my opinion that the NASL are wrong to release those details. . I wonder if the contracts had confidentiality clauses in them? guess we'll never know, unless the NASL decides to make those public as well next time they get upset. Seriously, am I the only one that realises that was a really bad look? maybe I am. thats cool. But organisations that deal with the NASL now need to be aware that their negotiations might be made public. Sponsors beware also... I dont think the big corporates will take that kind of crap lightly. Could be their days are numbered unless they get some maturity in the management team...

On August 14 2011 04:29 Grr Arr Rawr wrote:


Yeah, guys, he's actually right about that.

Noone will want to deal with NASL knowing what happens if you break a contract with them.

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