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Korean teams withdraw from NASL

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NASL.tv
Profile Joined April 2011
699 Posts
August 11 2011 23:06 GMT
#1
After many hours spent working with our sponsors and writing proposals, it is with our great displeasure to announce that Koreans from oGs, Startale, WeMadeFox, TSL, and Prime will not participate in the NASL.

At the very beginning of the first season, all players and team managers were sent a rule set and contract that outlined exactly how the league would work and what the NASL would provide to its players. The NASL agreed to provide a $500 travel stipend to each player who advanced to the Grand Finals, in addition to shuttle service to and from the airport and venue. This contract was signed by all players and team managers.

We made the offer to all teams and players that we could handle hotel booking and travel (to and from the airport) for the Grand Finals and subtract those prices from player travel stipends. Almost every player took us up on this offer. The week before the Grand Finals, Koreans expressed difficulty paying for their travel, and asked us to buy their plane tickets. We solved this problem by offering to buy their tickets and subtract the cost from prize winnings and whatever was left of the stipend.

In preparation for Season 2, it was made known to us by Mr.Chae of the GSL that the Korean teams threatened to withdraw from the NASL unless several demands were made: 1) pay for 100% of travel and accommodation cost for the Grand Finals and 2) remove the security deposit. The concerns of the Korean teams, as expressed to us by Mr.Chae were that it is difficult for Koreans to travel to the USA given their generally lower level of sponsorship, and secondly that they don’t think Koreans should have to pay to enter the event [despite the fact that we refund all security deposits, making the league free to play barring any penalties].

In an effort to try to ease the difficulty of travel, we managed to double our travel budget to $1,000 per player in addition to the minimum prize of $500. Unfortunately, we were notified August 9th (our 2nd day of filming) that this offer was unacceptable, and that Koreans were withdrawing from the league.

We presented a final offer, one which redistributed our prize pool to guarantee each player $2,000 (a $1,000 minimum prize in addition to the $1,000 travel stipend). We feel that, for a 1/16 chance at winning up to $40,000, $2,000 is more than fair accommodation expense to get players to come. Despite our best efforts, the Korean teams still have declined participation.

We are disappointed that the Korean Committee waited until the final hour, not only to make these demands but also to notify us of their withdrawal. We would like to apologize to our fans who wanted to see these players participate in the NASL and to the Korean players who hoped to participate. While we do respect the Committee’s decision, we wish it had been made in a more timely manner that did not interrupt the start of our season.

While this does mean that NASL Season 2 will be slightly delayed, we remain steadfast in our commitment to eSports – we will broadcast high quality games every day and bring you some of the very best play the world has to offer.

-- North American Star League
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 23:10:27
August 11 2011 23:09 GMT
#2
Wowow. Really? Man, that sucks. $2,000 stipend and they STILL say no? And it's not like it's unlikely they'll make the Ro8, that's even more money to pay it off, right?

Guess players like PuMa could play though since he's staying in the U.S. and I presume EG would cover the costs?
dasanivan
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States532 Posts
August 11 2011 23:09 GMT
#3
this is really bad news. when this stuff happens it's the viewers who lose.
nkwd
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States99 Posts
August 11 2011 23:10 GMT
#4
Sad news...is Sen still playing?
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Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
August 11 2011 23:10 GMT
#5
Oh dear. Well, this is going to get ugly. Too bad for the Koreans, I guess.
Seranetho
Profile Joined July 2010
France91 Posts
August 11 2011 23:10 GMT
#6
Waw, that's a huge deception for sure.
Best luck to you guys at NASL for the following !
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Boraz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States361 Posts
August 11 2011 23:10 GMT
#7
Wow. Koreans seem stubborn. NASL it seems like tried to make all the accommodations they could afford and still the Koreans withdraw after the season starts? Koreans think to highly of themselves. We don't need them in the NASL anyway.
Lrod
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands2 Posts
August 11 2011 23:11 GMT
#8
Guess i wont be watching NASL next season.

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Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
August 11 2011 23:11 GMT
#9
There goes 80% of NASL's viewers.
Boyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States226 Posts
August 11 2011 23:11 GMT
#10
Aww thats unfortunate, i guess its more the NA EU starleague now.
Goobus
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong587 Posts
August 11 2011 23:11 GMT
#11
Wow, this is surprising news. It seems a questionable business decision to deny an all expenses paid trip for a shot at the grand finals which pays out a massive first prize. I'm wondering whether this is the beginning of KeSPA 2.0...
Aurex
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada115 Posts
August 11 2011 23:11 GMT
#12
There is much honor in your conduct nasl, we see that you tried, and at the moment there isnt enough money in the community. All we can do is say thanks and hope that the NA players are taking there shellaking at the hands of the koreans recently seriously and the quality of games will be high.
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
August 11 2011 23:11 GMT
#13
For someone that highly regards the korean skill level...this REALLY blows. I never watch purely foreigner events =/.
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
Boraz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States361 Posts
August 11 2011 23:11 GMT
#14
On August 12 2011 08:09 FabledIntegral wrote:
Wowow. Really? Man, that sucks. $2,000 stipend and they STILL say no? And it's not like it's unlikely they'll make the Ro8, that's even more money to pay it off, right?

Guess players like PuMa could play though since he's staying in the U.S. and I presume EG would cover the costs?

Puma isn't staying in the US. He is still in Korea. He just practices with the EG team online and will attend all events.
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
August 11 2011 23:12 GMT
#15
Bah. Sadness. I'll still pay, I loved watching NASL games 3 days per week.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Jason54178
Profile Joined July 2011
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 23:12:19
August 11 2011 23:12 GMT
#16
On August 12 2011 08:10 nkwd wrote:
Sad news...is Sen still playing?


Sen is a Taiwanese player in an American team so he isn't affected I think.
starstorm
Profile Joined March 2011
64 Posts
August 11 2011 23:12 GMT
#17
Oh wow, sucks big time for the players that dominated the qualifiers.
StayFrosty
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada743 Posts
August 11 2011 23:12 GMT
#18
fuck em

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NASL.tv
Profile Joined April 2011
699 Posts
August 11 2011 23:12 GMT
#19
Koreans such as Rain, PuMa, and Hero will still be participating as they are not bound to SC2Con decisions! We are still waiting for a decision from FXOsC
dasanivan
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States532 Posts
August 11 2011 23:13 GMT
#20
Hmm, that list of teams doesn't include all the korean teams. Perhaps we'll still see SlayerS, IM etc? And some of the foreign sponsored Koreans too? Maybe it still won't be so devoid of Koreans
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