Korean teams withdraw from NASL - Page 177

On August 15 2011 03:49 aztrorisk wrote:
definitely reasonable.

Koreans just forfeited their chance to win the prize money.

Their lost.

On August 15 2011 03:56 gehgrfhgrh wrote:


Bullshit. NASL will lose 1000times more money than the the Koreans. NASL without Koreans is like WNBA.

On August 14 2011 22:45 common_cider wrote:
Example of Korean player playing in Season 2:

-Pay $500 NOW receive $500 4 ½ months later-BAD
-Playing matches at unpleasant times with lag-BAD
-Win a lot during the season= Grand Finals trip with:
Travel stipend of $1,000
Round trip plane ticket Korea to America (~$1500)
Transportation to and from airport+food+lodging+other costs (~$500)

A player who does exceptionally well in the league has LOST ~$1,000 until NASL pays prize money sometime 60 days after the season is over. Many Koreans teams and players are very tight on cash

When all is said and done, I predict NASL will be made to look bad for two reasons:

1. Promptness of payments- The contracts players signed before NASL Season 1 explicitly state that prize money would be awarded within 60 days upon completion of the season. However, this is an unreasonable amount of time to delay payouts.

They still have 20+ days to payout prize money from Season 1, but it looks awful when your league is taking so damn long to payout players. Even if you make it clear that you have 60 days to dish-out prize money and repay security deposits, your only asking for trouble when players are not paid promptly.

2. Security Deposit- Season 1 had a $250 deposit Due March 20th. When a WeMadeFox player withdrew from Season 2, WMF was refunded in full August 8th. The 250$ was held by NASL ~ 4 ½ months.

NASL is fully within their right to do this, but it's an unpleasant part of the league from a player perspective. Now a player has to put up $500 to play in the league for Season 2. From past precedent, a player will be -$500 for at least 4 ½ months to participate in the league.

I am not here to say NASL is in the wrong or breaking any rules. Rather my point is that if you put yourself in the shoes of a Korean player, the upfront costs coupled with lengthy payout wait times is not acceptable to you. It is likely that you will have NEGATIVE $500-2,000 for a long period of time before receiving prize money

The prize money total is NOT the issue. Koreans made $80,000+ in prize money from Season 1. The issue is having NEGATIVE money for many months until being paid. This is a HUGE problem. I think NASL should restructure payouts and security deposits to ease the upfront financial burden on teams and players.

On August 14 2011 22:45 common_cider wrote:
Example of Korean player playing in Season 2:

-Pay $500 NOW receive $500 4 ½ months later-BAD
-Playing matches at unpleasant times with lag-BAD
-Win a lot during the season= Grand Finals trip with:
Travel stipend of $1,000
Round trip plane ticket Korea to America (~$1500)
Transportation to and from airport+food+lodging+other costs (~$500)

A player who does exceptionally well in the league has LOST ~$1,000 until NASL pays prize money sometime 60 days after the season is over. Many Koreans teams and players are very tight on cash

When all is said and done, I predict NASL will be made to look bad for two reasons:

1. Promptness of payments- The contracts players signed before NASL Season 1 explicitly state that prize money would be awarded within 60 days upon completion of the season. However, this is an unreasonable amount of time to delay payouts.

They still have 20+ days to payout prize money from Season 1, but it looks awful when your league is taking so damn long to payout players. Even if you make it clear that you have 60 days to dish-out prize money and repay security deposits, your only asking for trouble when players are not paid promptly.

2. Security Deposit- Season 1 had a $250 deposit Due March 20th. When a WeMadeFox player withdrew from Season 2, WMF was refunded in full August 8th. The 250$ was held by NASL ~ 4 ½ months.

NASL is fully within their right to do this, but it's an unpleasant part of the league from a player perspective. Now a player has to put up $500 to play in the league for Season 2. From past precedent, a player will be -$500 for at least 4 ½ months to participate in the league.

I am not here to say NASL is in the wrong or breaking any rules. Rather my point is that if you put yourself in the shoes of a Korean player, the upfront costs coupled with lengthy payout wait times is not acceptable to you. It is likely that you will have NEGATIVE $500-2,000 for a long period of time before receiving prize money

The prize money total is NOT the issue. Koreans made $80,000+ in prize money from Season 1. The issue is having NEGATIVE money for many months until being paid. This is a HUGE problem. I think NASL should restructure payouts and security deposits to ease the upfront financial burden on teams and players.

On August 15 2011 03:56 gehgrfhgrh wrote:


Bullshit. NASL will lose 1000times more money than the the Koreans. NASL without Koreans is like WNBA.