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DaemonX
Profile Joined September 2010
545 Posts
August 15 2011 17:15 GMT
#3541
I had no problem with Korean participation in the tournaments, but if they don't want in, we don't need em. I'll still get my season ticket.
drlame
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden574 Posts
August 15 2011 21:40 GMT
#3542
On August 15 2011 11:16 openbox1 wrote:
yup. NASL has been in full force whining about it with Xeris feeding the flames. Regardless of what happened, it doesn't look classy for them to air their grievance in this manner.

But the organization has kinda made iffy decisions since day 1, and you can tell their professionalism by the quality of their work. No doubt, it was a huge task to co-ordinate events suchs as their first tournament and I'm sure their support staff put in the hours, but can anyone say that it was well-organized, well planned or even well executed?


They aren't whining or airing their grievance, they're informing fans why Koreans won't participate in season2 despite their best efforts to make them. Imo, NASL will probably lose more on this than the Koreans but for all I care the Koreans are not needed.
oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
August 15 2011 22:22 GMT
#3543
On August 16 2011 06:40 drlame wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 11:16 openbox1 wrote:
yup. NASL has been in full force whining about it with Xeris feeding the flames. Regardless of what happened, it doesn't look classy for them to air their grievance in this manner.

But the organization has kinda made iffy decisions since day 1, and you can tell their professionalism by the quality of their work. No doubt, it was a huge task to co-ordinate events suchs as their first tournament and I'm sure their support staff put in the hours, but can anyone say that it was well-organized, well planned or even well executed?


They aren't whining or airing their grievance, they're informing fans why Koreans won't participate in season2 despite their best efforts to make them. Imo, NASL will probably lose more on this than the Koreans but for all I care the Koreans are not needed.


Yes they are. All they had to say was 'unfortunately it didn't work out and the Koreans will not be participating.' But they chose not to.
Slider954
Profile Joined March 2011
United States342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 22:50:29
August 15 2011 22:49 GMT
#3544
On August 16 2011 07:22 oxxo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 06:40 drlame wrote:
On August 15 2011 11:16 openbox1 wrote:
yup. NASL has been in full force whining about it with Xeris feeding the flames. Regardless of what happened, it doesn't look classy for them to air their grievance in this manner.

But the organization has kinda made iffy decisions since day 1, and you can tell their professionalism by the quality of their work. No doubt, it was a huge task to co-ordinate events suchs as their first tournament and I'm sure their support staff put in the hours, but can anyone say that it was well-organized, well planned or even well executed?


They aren't whining or airing their grievance, they're informing fans why Koreans won't participate in season2 despite their best efforts to make them. Imo, NASL will probably lose more on this than the Koreans but for all I care the Koreans are not needed.


Yes they are. All they had to say was 'unfortunately it didn't work out and the Koreans will not be participating.' But they chose not to.


And can you actually tell me that this community would accept such a bland non answer? They would want to know why they weren't playing. Especially the ones who already paid for a season pass.
Best in the world at what I do
drevil69
Profile Joined May 2011
64 Posts
August 15 2011 22:51 GMT
#3545
just put out three spots for koreans to participate via a cup in korea as a qualifier and pay the winners full expenses for the trip. this way you do not have to spend that much and will still have some very good players from korea coming to nasl finals.

i think it is a good thing to have koreans playing in the tourney as it ups the level of competition.
Speshal tectics!
Mr.marine
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada49 Posts
August 15 2011 23:16 GMT
#3546
this is a very sad day for me NASL will not be the same no cool FvKR battles this makes me very sad inside
Haustka
Profile Joined August 2010
United States221 Posts
August 15 2011 23:39 GMT
#3547
unless u are new at this game... u know Koreans are exceptionally good at this game and without them u wouldnt be able to watch a competitive games like in NASL season 1

i mean... sure u will see decent games, but not great games

Power of Human Will
binkman
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia40 Posts
August 15 2011 23:48 GMT
#3548
On August 16 2011 07:49 Slider954 wrote:

And can you actually tell me that this community would accept such a bland non answer? They would want to know why they weren't playing. Especially the ones who already paid for a season pass.


It could have been worded better than that surely. The problem with how they have handled this on their side, is that they aren't leaving the door open for the koreans to return in future seasons. Placating the community now, at the expense of destroying any semblance of a professional relationship with the koreans, is only going to hurt NASL in the long run.
wingweaver415
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States66 Posts
August 15 2011 23:51 GMT
#3549
Thats lame. I had great respect for these players and the committee. We non Koreans do alot to watch and support the GSL and the SC2 scene overseas. Now when North America starts its own league, we can't get any support or rely on top players to show up and reward the loyalty we have given them? I call bull shit.
The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.
snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
August 15 2011 23:55 GMT
#3550
omg the koreans are ruining e-sports!
Slider954
Profile Joined March 2011
United States342 Posts
August 16 2011 00:03 GMT
#3551
On August 16 2011 08:48 binkman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 07:49 Slider954 wrote:

And can you actually tell me that this community would accept such a bland non answer? They would want to know why they weren't playing. Especially the ones who already paid for a season pass.


It could have been worded better than that surely. The problem with how they have handled this on their side, is that they aren't leaving the door open for the koreans to return in future seasons. Placating the community now, at the expense of destroying any semblance of a professional relationship with the koreans, is only going to hurt NASL in the long run.


Yes they could have worded it better, I agree 100%, especially since a lot this drama has resulted from miscommunication on both ends. But for the people saying its all on NASL, remember the Koreans did sign contracts for season 2 after qualifying and then backed out of them. So they aren't blameless in this whole thing.
Best in the world at what I do
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
August 16 2011 00:21 GMT
#3552
I'm excited for the new player list.


I wasn't aware that they even planned to replace that many players on such short notice, I just assumed we were going to see a shorter, truncated season with less players.
CakeOrI)eath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States327 Posts
August 16 2011 03:52 GMT
#3553
So we got rid of KESPA to get SC2Con? Was there even a net gain in this? At any rate, I'll still be watching NASL.
Opportunities multiply as they are seized.
Farseer9
Profile Joined August 2011
United States20 Posts
August 16 2011 04:05 GMT
#3554
This is actually great news! Now we can have a completely competitive foreign tournament, where our players can shine and improve the esport foreign scene.
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Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
August 16 2011 08:23 GMT
#3555
sad story... -.-
Comfort from bottles, cheers from beers the guitars are our weapons and we know how to kill!
BlindSight754
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada156 Posts
August 16 2011 14:06 GMT
#3556
Meh, I prefer watching foreign players anyways. Nice to have a real NASL now instead of another GSL.
_TosH_
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5 Posts
August 16 2011 22:21 GMT
#3557
Im sure if this keeps up e-sports will move on with out them.
kalteras
Profile Joined March 2011
United States72 Posts
August 18 2011 16:20 GMT
#3558
Whatever, I'm still going to watch, you guys put out so much high quality content it's insane! Keep up the good work.
Look at the damn minimap - Day[9]
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 07:27:21
August 19 2011 07:25 GMT
#3559
I wonder is NASL gonna pay Koreans at all even prize money and deposits from last season. Typically when someone is in non performance of a contract you withhold funds and let a judge decide once they file. Ultimately guy who has the money has upper hand, not Koreans.
MC for president
ICarrotU
Profile Joined February 2011
United States254 Posts
August 20 2011 04:12 GMT
#3560
Koreans teams are killing e-sports. Unfortunately I'm not joking.
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