• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:08
CEST 15:08
KST 22:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash8[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy13ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research6Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Pros React To: SoulKey vs Ample Build Order Practice Maps [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group F [ASL21] Ro24 Group E 🌍 Weekly Foreign Showmatches [ASL21] Ro24 Group B
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1428 users

Korean teams withdraw from NASL - Page 178

Forum Index > SC2 General
3573 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 176 177 178 179 Next
DaemonX
Profile Joined September 2010
545 Posts
August 15 2011 17:15 GMT
#3541
I had no problem with Korean participation in the tournaments, but if they don't want in, we don't need em. I'll still get my season ticket.
drlame
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden574 Posts
August 15 2011 21:40 GMT
#3542
On August 15 2011 11:16 openbox1 wrote:
yup. NASL has been in full force whining about it with Xeris feeding the flames. Regardless of what happened, it doesn't look classy for them to air their grievance in this manner.

But the organization has kinda made iffy decisions since day 1, and you can tell their professionalism by the quality of their work. No doubt, it was a huge task to co-ordinate events suchs as their first tournament and I'm sure their support staff put in the hours, but can anyone say that it was well-organized, well planned or even well executed?


They aren't whining or airing their grievance, they're informing fans why Koreans won't participate in season2 despite their best efforts to make them. Imo, NASL will probably lose more on this than the Koreans but for all I care the Koreans are not needed.
oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
August 15 2011 22:22 GMT
#3543
On August 16 2011 06:40 drlame wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 11:16 openbox1 wrote:
yup. NASL has been in full force whining about it with Xeris feeding the flames. Regardless of what happened, it doesn't look classy for them to air their grievance in this manner.

But the organization has kinda made iffy decisions since day 1, and you can tell their professionalism by the quality of their work. No doubt, it was a huge task to co-ordinate events suchs as their first tournament and I'm sure their support staff put in the hours, but can anyone say that it was well-organized, well planned or even well executed?


They aren't whining or airing their grievance, they're informing fans why Koreans won't participate in season2 despite their best efforts to make them. Imo, NASL will probably lose more on this than the Koreans but for all I care the Koreans are not needed.


Yes they are. All they had to say was 'unfortunately it didn't work out and the Koreans will not be participating.' But they chose not to.
Slider954
Profile Joined March 2011
United States342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 22:50:29
August 15 2011 22:49 GMT
#3544
On August 16 2011 07:22 oxxo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 06:40 drlame wrote:
On August 15 2011 11:16 openbox1 wrote:
yup. NASL has been in full force whining about it with Xeris feeding the flames. Regardless of what happened, it doesn't look classy for them to air their grievance in this manner.

But the organization has kinda made iffy decisions since day 1, and you can tell their professionalism by the quality of their work. No doubt, it was a huge task to co-ordinate events suchs as their first tournament and I'm sure their support staff put in the hours, but can anyone say that it was well-organized, well planned or even well executed?


They aren't whining or airing their grievance, they're informing fans why Koreans won't participate in season2 despite their best efforts to make them. Imo, NASL will probably lose more on this than the Koreans but for all I care the Koreans are not needed.


Yes they are. All they had to say was 'unfortunately it didn't work out and the Koreans will not be participating.' But they chose not to.


And can you actually tell me that this community would accept such a bland non answer? They would want to know why they weren't playing. Especially the ones who already paid for a season pass.
Best in the world at what I do
drevil69
Profile Joined May 2011
64 Posts
August 15 2011 22:51 GMT
#3545
just put out three spots for koreans to participate via a cup in korea as a qualifier and pay the winners full expenses for the trip. this way you do not have to spend that much and will still have some very good players from korea coming to nasl finals.

i think it is a good thing to have koreans playing in the tourney as it ups the level of competition.
Speshal tectics!
Mr.marine
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada49 Posts
August 15 2011 23:16 GMT
#3546
this is a very sad day for me NASL will not be the same no cool FvKR battles this makes me very sad inside
Haustka
Profile Joined August 2010
United States221 Posts
August 15 2011 23:39 GMT
#3547
unless u are new at this game... u know Koreans are exceptionally good at this game and without them u wouldnt be able to watch a competitive games like in NASL season 1

i mean... sure u will see decent games, but not great games

Power of Human Will
binkman
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia40 Posts
August 15 2011 23:48 GMT
#3548
On August 16 2011 07:49 Slider954 wrote:

And can you actually tell me that this community would accept such a bland non answer? They would want to know why they weren't playing. Especially the ones who already paid for a season pass.


It could have been worded better than that surely. The problem with how they have handled this on their side, is that they aren't leaving the door open for the koreans to return in future seasons. Placating the community now, at the expense of destroying any semblance of a professional relationship with the koreans, is only going to hurt NASL in the long run.
wingweaver415
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States66 Posts
August 15 2011 23:51 GMT
#3549
Thats lame. I had great respect for these players and the committee. We non Koreans do alot to watch and support the GSL and the SC2 scene overseas. Now when North America starts its own league, we can't get any support or rely on top players to show up and reward the loyalty we have given them? I call bull shit.
The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.
snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
August 15 2011 23:55 GMT
#3550
omg the koreans are ruining e-sports!
Slider954
Profile Joined March 2011
United States342 Posts
August 16 2011 00:03 GMT
#3551
On August 16 2011 08:48 binkman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 07:49 Slider954 wrote:

And can you actually tell me that this community would accept such a bland non answer? They would want to know why they weren't playing. Especially the ones who already paid for a season pass.


It could have been worded better than that surely. The problem with how they have handled this on their side, is that they aren't leaving the door open for the koreans to return in future seasons. Placating the community now, at the expense of destroying any semblance of a professional relationship with the koreans, is only going to hurt NASL in the long run.


Yes they could have worded it better, I agree 100%, especially since a lot this drama has resulted from miscommunication on both ends. But for the people saying its all on NASL, remember the Koreans did sign contracts for season 2 after qualifying and then backed out of them. So they aren't blameless in this whole thing.
Best in the world at what I do
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
August 16 2011 00:21 GMT
#3552
I'm excited for the new player list.


I wasn't aware that they even planned to replace that many players on such short notice, I just assumed we were going to see a shorter, truncated season with less players.
CakeOrI)eath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States327 Posts
August 16 2011 03:52 GMT
#3553
So we got rid of KESPA to get SC2Con? Was there even a net gain in this? At any rate, I'll still be watching NASL.
Opportunities multiply as they are seized.
Farseer9
Profile Joined August 2011
United States20 Posts
August 16 2011 04:05 GMT
#3554
This is actually great news! Now we can have a completely competitive foreign tournament, where our players can shine and improve the esport foreign scene.
//// IMMvp //// SlayerSMMA //// EGPuMa //// STBomber //// mouzThorZaIN //// oGsNaDa //// dSeleCT //// FXOqxc ////
Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
August 16 2011 08:23 GMT
#3555
sad story... -.-
Comfort from bottles, cheers from beers the guitars are our weapons and we know how to kill!
BlindSight754
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada156 Posts
August 16 2011 14:06 GMT
#3556
Meh, I prefer watching foreign players anyways. Nice to have a real NASL now instead of another GSL.
_TosH_
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5 Posts
August 16 2011 22:21 GMT
#3557
Im sure if this keeps up e-sports will move on with out them.
kalteras
Profile Joined March 2011
United States72 Posts
August 18 2011 16:20 GMT
#3558
Whatever, I'm still going to watch, you guys put out so much high quality content it's insane! Keep up the good work.
Look at the damn minimap - Day[9]
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 07:27:21
August 19 2011 07:25 GMT
#3559
I wonder is NASL gonna pay Koreans at all even prize money and deposits from last season. Typically when someone is in non performance of a contract you withhold funds and let a judge decide once they file. Ultimately guy who has the money has upper hand, not Koreans.
MC for president
ICarrotU
Profile Joined February 2011
United States254 Posts
August 20 2011 04:12 GMT
#3560
Koreans teams are killing e-sports. Unfortunately I'm not joking.
Prev 1 176 177 178 179 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
2026 Week 3
WardiTV655
RotterdaM495
TKL 238
SteadfastSC187
IndyStarCraft 144
Rex116
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 495
Lowko421
TKL 238
SteadfastSC 187
IndyStarCraft 144
ProTech120
Rex 116
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 59549
Calm 7870
Bisu 2590
EffOrt 550
BeSt 504
Stork 427
Soma 404
Mini 297
firebathero 275
actioN 216
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 203
Hyuk 200
Snow 184
Last 164
PianO 152
Soulkey 141
Dewaltoss 135
Rush 125
Sharp 97
hero 87
Mind 73
Hyun 55
Killer 47
Shinee 41
JYJ 38
ToSsGirL 32
Barracks 28
Shine 27
Hm[arnc] 19
Sacsri 17
yabsab 16
Noble 16
scan(afreeca) 14
sorry 14
Movie 13
soO 13
GoRush 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
Terrorterran 7
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2318
byalli756
zeus595
x6flipin439
edward63
oskar13
Other Games
singsing2148
B2W.Neo447
hiko347
crisheroes257
XaKoH 192
Sick106
QueenE77
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 12
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 48
• iHatsuTV 11
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV430
• lizZardDota2107
League of Legends
• Jankos1821
• Nemesis1806
• TFBlade432
• HappyZerGling110
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
10h 52m
The PondCast
20h 52m
OSC
1d 10h
RSL Revival
1d 20h
TriGGeR vs Cure
ByuN vs Rogue
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Maru vs MaxPax
BSL
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W1
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.