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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
On August 14 2011 08:27 NHY wrote: Where did they say "we won't play until prizes are paid and deposits are returned." Their demands were: Xeris is NASL's admin and staff. I imagine it comes from their direct communication. | ||
ZodaSoda
Australia1191 Posts
This is why i don't post D': *Scurries back off to Liquipedia* | ||
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JSy
149 Posts
Checked the past 15 pages of the thread and didn't see this mentioned (although some recent posts read like maybe it has been posted already?) Post on SC2CON's website on their perspective of the current NASL dispute/troubles. The recent troubles with NASL were the result of SC2CON's actions, but rather were actions taken by the individual teams. We believe the teams are currently preparing a statement to express their thoughts and opinions on the matter. *We are baffled by NASL constantly referring to SC2CON in this matter. The conference has not transmitted nor received any official communication with NASL. Original link and text: + Show Spoiler + NASL 관련 협의회 입장입니다.조회 수 476 추천 수 0 2011.08.14 00:44:25 http://s2con.com/xe/8460 금번 NASL 관련 분쟁은 스타크래프트 II 협의회 주관하에 진행된 내용이 아닌, 각 게임단 자체적으로 진행된 내용입니다. 이와 관련하여 해당 게임단들이 입장 표명을 준비중인것으로 알고 있습니다. * NASL측에서 왜 계속 협의회를 거론하는지에 대해 의문입니다. 협의회에서는 공식적인 내용을 전달한적도, 전달 받은적도 없습니다. | ||
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JudgeHolden
Canada11 Posts
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NHY
1013 Posts
On August 14 2011 08:31 Primadog wrote: Xeris is NASL's admin and staff. I imagine it comes from their direct communication. Maybe, but given that it wasn't mentioned in OP, I have my doubts. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
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Effen
227 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On August 14 2011 08:59 Effen wrote: Well, seeing as NASL falsely advertised their product, I assume NASL will give us refunds for our season 2 tickets, right? It would be illegal not to...false advertising/fraud. Umm it wasn't false advertising. The Koreans were a part of season two until two days ago when they pulled out. | ||
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Kieofire
United States1809 Posts
On August 14 2011 08:59 Effen wrote: Well, seeing as NASL falsely advertised their product, I assume NASL will give us refunds for our season 2 tickets, right? It would be illegal not to...false advertising/fraud. How is it false advertisement? They did not advertise anything at all. | ||
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Effen
227 Posts
On August 14 2011 09:03 Kieofire wrote: How is it false advertisement? They did not advertise anything at all. Their product is the games of the players. They listed the players (aka their product) as being X, and it turns out that X doesn't exist yet we paid for product X. This would be like buying a LA Lakers ticket for $100 except after they accept your payment they tell you that in fact you are going to an LA Sparks (WNBA) game to see women try to play basketball. Simple to follow I think... | ||
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Petra37
United States20 Posts
On August 14 2011 09:04 Effen wrote: Their product is the games of the players. They listed the players (aka their product) as being X, and it turns out that X doesn't exist yet we paid for product X. Simple to follow I think... Yeah...that's not how false advertising works. They've done nothing illegal and are under no obligation to refund anything. Do you think you deserve to get a refund if you buy tickets for a sporting event and your favorite player is hurt/DQed and can't play? Of course not. Nice try at being a cheapskate though. | ||
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Effen
227 Posts
If any real corporation, publicly traded especially, pulled a stunt like this -- they would be crucified. | ||
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Petra37
United States20 Posts
On August 14 2011 09:06 Effen wrote: You clearly need to take a marketing course. If any real corporation, publicly traded especially, pulled a stunt like this -- they would be crucified. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_advertising "False advertising or deceptive advertising is the use of false or misleading statements in advertising." NASL did not commit fraud or false advertising. This is not even a difficult concept. | ||
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Kieofire
United States1809 Posts
On August 14 2011 09:04 Effen wrote: Their product is the games of the players. They listed the players (aka their product) as being X, and it turns out that X doesn't exist yet we paid for product X. This would be like buying a LA Lakers ticket for $100 except after they accept your payment they tell you that in fact Kobe Bryant will not be playing and that you are going to an LA Sparks (WNBA) game to see women try to play basketball. Simple to follow I think... That is totally irrelevant/absurd, since when do you buy a ticket for an NBA game and they send you to a WNBA game? Just because Korean players aren't going to be playing does not change the tournament it will be the same tournament with people that have just as much skill that get the spots from the Korean players. | ||
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MiacroISBADK
United States45 Posts
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Effen
227 Posts
On August 14 2011 09:09 Petra37 wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_advertising "False advertising or deceptive advertising is the use of false or misleading statements in advertising." NASL did not commit fraud or false advertising. This is not even a difficult concept. They literally said multiple times stuff to the extent of: "Purchase your tickets to see players: PuMa -- winner NASL Open Tournament aLive -- 2nd NASL Open Tournament Clide -- semi final NASL Open Tournament Revival -- semi final NASL Open Tournament LoWeLy -- top 8 NASL Open Tournament NightEnD -- top 8 NASL Open Tournament Rain -- top 8 NASL Open Tournament sC -- winner NASL S2 Qualifier TOP -- 2nd NASL S2 Qualifier Hero -- semi final NASL S2 Qualifier MarineKing -- semi final NASL S2 Qualifier Moonan -- top 8 NASL S2 Qualifier Check -- top 8 NASL S2 Qualifier Polt -- top 8 NASL S2 Qualifier Moon -- top 8 NASL S1" source: www.nasl.tv So we go purchase the ticket, and now their product which they clearly advertised as being what I posted above is nothing even remotely close to that. Clearly both false and misleading, as per your post. Granted, you used wikipedia, but still we can assume that to be generally correct. | ||
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Shoggoth
England75 Posts
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MiacroISBADK
United States45 Posts
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Kieofire
United States1809 Posts
On August 14 2011 09:11 Effen wrote: They literally said multiple times stuff to the extent of: "Purchase your tickets to see the worlds best players, including: PuMa -- winner NASL Open Tournament aLive -- 2nd NASL Open Tournament Clide -- semi final NASL Open Tournament Revival -- semi final NASL Open Tournament LoWeLy -- top 8 NASL Open Tournament NightEnD -- top 8 NASL Open Tournament Rain -- top 8 NASL Open Tournament sC -- winner NASL S2 Qualifier TOP -- 2nd NASL S2 Qualifier Hero -- semi final NASL S2 Qualifier MarineKing -- semi final NASL S2 Qualifier Moonan -- top 8 NASL S2 Qualifier Check -- top 8 NASL S2 Qualifier Polt -- top 8 NASL S2 Qualifier Moon -- top 8 NASL S1" That is a blatant lie, I have never seen them advertise that at all, all they did was put a list of players on their site so us the viewers could see who would be in the tournament, it is not the fault of NASL that the Korean Teams decided that they won't let their players play the matches for the event. | ||
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Petra37
United States20 Posts
If you buy tickets to a music festival and a few bands pull out at the last minute due to not liking their stage placement or something, is it the venue or festival organizers fault? Did they lie? Were they deceptive? No. Same case here, NASL advertised what to their knowledge was true. You're wrong. End of story. ANYway, who else is more interested in what JSy mentioned a few posts up about this statement from the Korean teams and SC2CON denying their involvement? | ||
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