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KingofKings891
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5 Posts
August 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#241
So the NASL will finally be a NAsl.....
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
sevia
Profile Joined May 2010
United States954 Posts
August 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#242
On August 12 2011 08:33 Polskaa wrote:
Not only will the players be happy
I am happy as well.
Its NORTH AMERICAN starleague
not SKSL.
Now our american/european players will all have equal chances to actually win money
and make Pro-gaming in NA more attainable


It's not NASL's fault, but what you're describing is basically affirmative-action esports.

There are smaller tournaments where NA/EU players can compete for smaller prize pools. But with this much money on the line, it's a joke to not have the best players in the world competing for it.
최지성 Bomber || 김동환 viOLet || 고병재 GuMiho
EightyFive
Profile Joined May 2011
58 Posts
August 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#243
This opens spots for good foreign players who weren't in S1.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
August 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#244
On August 12 2011 08:35 namste wrote:
Soo anyone else excited for the upcoming Linko vs Optikzero finals in NASL? Or some other random player vs random player finals?

Disclaimer: not dissing these players or anything, just would rather have people like Nada vs July or something in the finals.

Except it'll probably be something like Sen vs Puma in the finals.

If you can't appreciate that, your loss.
OhMyGawd
Profile Joined February 2011
United States264 Posts
August 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#245
I guess CatZ got his wish.
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
August 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#246
sucks for the players that their teams either don't want to or can't support their travel

good situation for any remaining Korean players that can actually play in NASL though
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Fakie
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada62 Posts
August 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#247
man, NASL is going to suffer big time.

no one wants to see low level starcraft2. =(
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 23:40:12
August 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#248
Aw, this is very sad for you guys, because this has costed so much work... T_T Sorry to hear.

I honestly see this as an opportunity for NASL though. I think the league would be vastly superior with just a few koreans. NASL wanted too much for an almost full online league. If you cut down on the amount of participants, NASL crew has a lot of free time available to put into the aspects that need improvement: production quality, stories, development.

NASL still has tons of awesome players. That many Koreans felt unnecessary and unfortunate to me, because that is what the GSL is for. It is not really fun to watch them play a league on awkward times, a league which they generally have no affiliation with whatsoever and probably do not really want to play, but are forced to because SC2 is not as big yet in Korea.

The top of NA and EU with a few Koreans mixed in would make a beautiful league. Hell, the Shoutcraft invitationals by TB already feel epic. I can imagine it being a huge disappointment, but this is also a room for growth. As long as there are not too many participants so the quality of the league suffers greatly. Go go NASL!
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Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
August 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#249
Eh, I barely watched last season anyways, but this is still pretty fucked up.
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
August 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#250

At least try to invite decent Koreans who are not in the mentioned teams.


IM is in the association. Not sure about the other teams.
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
August 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#251
On August 12 2011 08:12 NASL.tv wrote:
Koreans such as Rain, PuMa, and Hero will still be participating as they are not bound to SC2Con decisions! We are still waiting for a decision from FXOsC

ty, was about to ask that. This whole communication between korea and foreigns has been pretty shitty so far, aside from mlg/ gsl. Hope this starts getting figured out. I kinda think it's getting more reasonable to meet in person. Col did eventually, gsl/ mlg did, and of course FXO and fou did


well gl on your newest season. I'll still be watching
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
August 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#252
I don't understand why the business side of the disagreement has been posted on here. Feels like NASL is trying to get us to take sides. Doesn't seem professional that the offers and demands are being shown to the public.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
August 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#253
goddamit .... fuck SC2Con for their late decision. Anyways, good luck with the new season NASL!
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
August 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#254
Can I get a refund?


IMNestea's biggest fan.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
August 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#255
On August 12 2011 08:37 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 08:36 AxelTVx wrote:
Wow... that is huge... honestly though I won't be seeing myself watching NASL now.


C'mon, Koreans aren't the only ones who can play SC2. Besides, a little change in the scenery might just prove beneficial.


I rather watch the best play rather than the semipros. But that's just me I suppose.
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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 23:40:20
August 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#256
lol?

oh well that's sad. Not a lot of incentive to watch s2 then.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#257
On August 12 2011 08:38 Z3kk wrote:
Wow.... That sucks D:

Are they supposed to be suspicious of other teams stealing away players while they are not in Korea or something? ;;


Dunno. I wouldn't be surprised if Korean teams saw what happened with TSL and PuMa, who is an amazing up and coming player, and are also factored that in. I don't think it's too big a deal, but every little factor counts.
Mairu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States222 Posts
August 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#258
On August 12 2011 08:39 Bumblebee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 08:32 Kraznaya wrote:
NASL, can you please explain why you couldn't take the requested travel costs out of the prize pool?

Do you think it'd be fair to Europeans and Americans that the prizepool should suffer because they can't fund it themselves? I mean, if the travel money, etc. would be the same for everyone, then maybe. But if this was taken out only to fund the Koreans, then I'd see a big, big problem in this.

It looks like they were already willing to cut the prize pool. $2000 per player for the travel stipend seems like a lot even knowing how expensive travel from Korea to the US is, what were they requesting?
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
August 11 2011 23:40 GMT
#259
On August 12 2011 08:39 Bumblebee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 08:32 Kraznaya wrote:
NASL, can you please explain why you couldn't take the requested travel costs out of the prize pool?

Do you think it'd be fair to Europeans and Americans that the prizepool should suffer because they can't fund it themselves? I mean, if the travel money, etc. would be the same for everyone, then maybe. But if this was taken out only to fund the Koreans, then I'd see a big, big problem in this.


You could simply give the same amount money used to fund travel costs for Koreans as free prize money to the European and American players. And let's be honest, it wasn't like anyone but Koreans were going to get a piece of the prize pool anyway.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
awwnuts07
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 23:41:59
August 11 2011 23:40 GMT
#260
That's too bad. SC2 may be bigger in the west than in Korea, but it's not like our leagues are swimming in money.

Here's a quick band-aid solution: Sign more Koreans onto western teams. We still get Koreans, but now they're sponsored by foreigners.
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