EPTPuma leaves TSL for EG - Page 257
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LuckyFool
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sekritzzz
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KoshkaTV
United States430 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:04 echO [W] wrote: I get the feeling that it's simply a cultural disagreement. Lee is happy for Puma, like a proud father of his son for doing so well that he got an offer from EG. However, he's unhappy in the fact that say this was a marriage, the father (Lee in this case) would have liked it if the boyfriend (EG) asked him (Lee) for his blessing to proceed in marrying his daughter (Puma). Yes, but Lee should be a man and not put this drama on Puma, despite his feelings being hurt. | ||
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Thrax
Canada1755 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:04 Primadog wrote: You can spin arguments, but you can't spin facts (at least without being called out for the bullshit). milkis lost both argument and fact. He was not the appropriate person sent to debate this, because of that, this debate won't be resolved today. Really unfortunate. Can we have a followup with Nazgul? Well, Coach Lee already got to give their view on this debate. It was only fair that AG would have the same opportunity. It would have been good to have both parties on at the same time, but at least now we have two point of views to go from. I expect the Q&A part of WoC might be more telling though. | ||
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mYiKane
Canada1772 Posts
you forgot the sunglasses | ||
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OrderlyChaos
United States1115 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:03 Takezou wrote: I think if it didn't go down the way it did most people would be excited about Puma going to a foreign team. I agree with what you say here. But looking at this thread, we can see that Rain to fnatic, which was a fairly big move involving a Korean, was only 23 pages. Even accounting for Puma being a major player, I think this thread might have been lucky to break 100 pages (and that's being really optimistic). There clearly was a lot of controversy and discussion, and that derives from how EG and TSL have handled the fallout of this move. | ||
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
He's not really the appropriate person to discuss this, he should just be an advisor in this discussion. He isn't involved at all, and it doesn't really concern him. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 22 2011 08:58 thatsundowner wrote: Hey alex, no one is talking about restricting players in any way. A Korean player should be able to join whatever team he wants, the big problem in this whole thing is the scummy way you went about recruiting him. Wait, he can't ask other players, who don't have contracts to join his team. He can't offer to pay them? How else would he recruit him? Should he court Puma like a man in the 1800s, asking Puma's coach if he could call on him later and discuss this future. Expecting your players to play without paying them or contracts is asking for them to leave, plain and simple. | ||
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meep
United States1699 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:05 Barkziee wrote: This is just like any other situation where they bring out the Alex Garfield card. A situation where Alex can't be properly challenged because he is positioned in a situation where he can express his biased and spun point of view without proper opposition, thus causing the lesser-minded among us to just believe his word on face value. Quoting this because I honestly feel this to be true. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:04 Primadog wrote: You can spin arguments, but you can't spin facts (at least without being called out for the bullshit). milkis lost both argument and fact. He was not the appropriate person sent to debate this, because of that, this debate won't be resolved today. Really unfortunate. Can we have a followup with Nazgul? The facts are Puma has not signed yet. He left TSL officially and they gave him a going away party. Now EG hopes to sign Puma as a free agent who has already been released. Getting into the discussion of whether or not foreign teams have a right to sign korean players because they have the money to do so is def. going badly for milkis. Youre right, hes not the appropriate person for this, very poorly spoken and cant elaborate his thoughts. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
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Mayor
United States472 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:06 sekritzzz wrote: Wasnt kespa started as a most union? isnt it the most succesful model? im kind of lost here. could someone clarify what alex means He's saying like in BW, because kespa was like it was, it was kinda korea or not korea, and in order for the sport to grow internationally, instead of being like it was BW all over again, they can't have that. I think, anyways. | ||
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Fishriot
United States621 Posts
Edit: Does anyone else think that Alex's voice is extremely similar to Chill's? | ||
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Arijevska
Serbia41 Posts
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spybreak
United States684 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:05 MrSexington wrote: Here's the cliff notes:
*break time for Q&A to come* Sweet thanks | ||
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mnck
Denmark1518 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:03 EchoZ wrote: They need to find a korean player's association representative immediately. I agree! I also feel like he doesn't have had the time to formulate a proper argument or debate, so it's basically just Alex Garfield going all out and he gets all his points across completely unchallenged. It's a very onesided discussion and nothing but Garfield's opinions about how to grow esports the best way is being discussed. I feel it's kinda going off topic in a sense. Alex Garfield just keeps going on about his personal ideal ESPORTS model. | ||
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WindOw
Sweden407 Posts
but whatever, GL in EG PuMa | ||
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Taf the Ghost
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marvin.
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