Eh, I've never really liked people who are really smooth talkers and use that to their advantage. I'm definitely not warming up to Alex at all, here. Usually, being a smooth talker just lets you make yourself appear more "right" than you truly are to the ears of an audience, and it always feels pretty dirty to me.

Citadel.i

Canada52 Posts

July 22 2011 00:13 GMT

#5165

Dj Wheat is so annoying, I wish someone else could mediate this press release (It's not much of a debate really)

sisternx

Sweden61 Posts

July 22 2011 00:13 GMT

#5166

Apparently Puma hasn't officially signed with EG yet, so this may be wishful thinking, but what if he joins FXO.Korea... then he can stay in korea and have a awesome teamhouse and practice partners :p

dacthehork

United States2000 Posts

July 22 2011 00:13 GMT

#5167

On July 22 2011 09:12 Corrosive wrote:

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Are these cliffnotes?

I could have sworn they were just anti EG notes.

That's just the way it worked out. EG wants to reap the rewards of Korean coaches/teams making it possible for these players to train like they do. Hence sneaking in and trying to pick up players at NASL.

Grimsong

United States252 Posts

July 22 2011 00:13 GMT

#5168

This is a huge culture clash, wow. Seems like Korea wants to close its doors tight at this point and keep these foreigners out of their BW system which was wildly successful for entertainment and doesn't seem flawed to their culture.

Interesting about how expensive buyouts are so they dodged it.

Fionn

United States23455 Posts

July 22 2011 00:13 GMT

#5169

On July 22 2011 09:12 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Transfer fees about players. I think someone tried to get NesTea or MC ^_^

To get either of those guys, EG would probably have to win the lottery.

nekuodah

England2409 Posts

July 22 2011 00:14 GMT

#5170

you cant just support 1/2/3 top korean players, it just wont work long term as they will fall behind the actual established teams due to lack of practice partners, his idea of a model just does not work imo.

Cite

Australia251 Posts

July 22 2011 00:14 GMT

#5171

I completely hate how he NEVER lets milkis finish his whole side but stops once he finds a point to nit pick at and spin. I mean he was so adamant about making milkis shut up till he was "done" so we could not miscontrue it, but I mean come on...

thebike

United States157 Posts

July 22 2011 00:14 GMT

#5172

Thank goodness that Milkis started talking back more aggressively.

babylon

8765 Posts

July 22 2011 00:14 GMT

#5173

On July 22 2011 09:13 sisternx wrote:
Apparently Puma hasn't officially signed with EG yet, so this may be wishful thinking, but what if he joins FXO.Korea... then he can stay in korea and have a awesome teamhouse and practice partners :p

He's going to be signed. I don't think that's even debatable. He just hasn't put pen to paper.

meep

United States1699 Posts

July 22 2011 00:14 GMT

#5174

On July 22 2011 09:13 HolyArrow wrote:
Eh, I've never really liked people who are really smooth talkers and use that to their advantage. I'm definitely not warming up to Alex at all, here. Usually, being a smooth talker just lets you make yourself appear more "right" than you truly are to the ears of an audience, and it always feels pretty dirty to me.

Usually I like smooth talkers, but I'm getting a "vibe" from Alex that he IS using it negatively (to me) as well. Sigh

windsupernova

Mexico5280 Posts

July 22 2011 00:14 GMT

#5175

Poor Milkis, he is basically being used as a strawman.

Anyways, I think people from both sides are basically making this a huge deal when its not that big. Really, I read 200 pages of this thread and the misinformation and straight made up crap that has been said made me angry lol.

Serene

United States23 Posts

July 22 2011 00:14 GMT

#5176

While Alex smooth talks this very well, he's avoiding a critical point. His argument is access to Korean Progamers.

As someone pointed out, please explain:

fnatic.Rain
FXOz
FXO and fOu buyout

He's just trying to demonize a culture to justify, in his view, the approach taken with Puma. Which is hilarious.

zeru

8156 Posts

July 22 2011 00:14 GMT

#5177

--- Nuked ---

sekritzzz

1515 Posts

July 22 2011 00:14 GMT

#5178

I hate how Alex is playing the "I will develop e-sports" card. He keeps going back to that point of developing e-sports rather than talking about the issue at hand.

Rain, phoenix, and multiple other koreans already beat him to it. E-sports doesnt need Alex to succeed.

SafeAsCheese

United States4924 Posts

July 22 2011 00:15 GMT

#5179

On July 22 2011 09:13 dacthehork wrote:

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And the problem with this is what?

If you get a job at a corporation and they train you, but another company offers you 2x the pay, what the fuck would you do?

marvin.

United States469 Posts

July 22 2011 00:15 GMT

#5180

Alex arguing that buying out Koreans is for the greater growth of esports. Personally I think that if a bit more work / money / time was put into the actual FOREIGNER players it would be better for esports.