EPTOn May 19 2011 18:23 ODKStevez wrote:
I had at least 25 games lost in a row (mainly cause I don't kow builds yet)
I had at least 25 games lost in a row (mainly cause I don't kow builds yet)
Get proper builds then?
Unable to demote myself. - Page 2
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CPTslut
Germany98 Posts
Get proper builds then? | ||
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DrJarp
Germany24 Posts
If you are a platinum/diamond zerg player, I suppose you know the general game mechanics and have an idea of the game. So: they next step to learn a new race would be YABOT - as someone already mentioned - to get a basic overview over 2-3 Build Orders, it's not hard but an incredible confident boost if you know that you have some material that can bring you a solid win. Now, play some custom games on the blizzard maps. You don't have the pressure of winning and you can practice. Find partners in the TL pickup Channel or in the Blizzard Chat Channels, you should find someone. When you are confident enough to step into ladder, which could be after 5-20 games, but still without concernlessness [is that even a word?] in 1v1, go for 2v2 and 3v3, or better 4v4. Since 2v2 and 3v3 involve some debateable rush and cheese tactics (yeah yeah, someone will say that it isnt cheese since it's solid 2s tactic, but that's another topic), 4v4 is more like a "I go that risky build!", or "I do what I want!" or "WTF? Tactic? Is that the mint candy?". Just execute what you want, you can practice your 1v1 BO with actual opponents since noone gives a shit anyway, which is sad, don't get me wrong on this. At least it's my experience (even in Diamond-rated games). Hope I could help! You really should stay in Platinum, since Gold players are in comparison quite.. no offense.. terrible. | ||
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bri9and
United States246 Posts
Play normal, don't forfeit games they have a system that identifies that you are doing that and you aren't fooling it. | ||
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obbob
Canada72 Posts
The same can be said for promotions if you get a huge win streak. Happened to me during the summer when i jumped from Gold to Diamond due to a 13 game winstreak from baneling busting and 10 pooling ;P. | ||
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Jandos
Czech Republic928 Posts
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GMonster
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Tofugrinder
Austria899 Posts
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DrJarp
Germany24 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 19 2011 19:08 EmeraldSparks wrote: That's simply not true. If the skill differential is too large then you can only look at your replay and say, "well, I lost because he did absolutely everything better than me." When reviewing a replay, a gold player who plays another gold player can see what he did wrong and what he should do better next time. A gold player who runs into Idra and gets roflstomped into the ground will learn little to nothing. Even so, you still gain nothing out of free-losing games. 25 games where you got to work with your opening, and see what sort of things don't work is still better than 25 games where you just quit at the start. And as others have said, if you have decent mechanics and understanding of the game, you're very unlikely to be playing matches where the opponent is doing "absolutely everything better than you". Enough carries over that you will be able to pinpoint specific mistakes. You're still playing the same game. | ||
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jeeneeus
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
I've heard that you have to win a game to be demoted after a losing streak. | ||
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Zzero
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SoulScream
Bulgaria44 Posts
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teekesselchen
Germany886 Posts
I did so when I came back after over half a year of inactivity plus switched from Terran to Protoss, in Diamond league. I had a -12 loss streak or so, but then eventually played 50% afterwards and even got promoted to Master league within the first 90 protoss victories. Now I'm doing the same with Protoss>Zerg, but I might end up getting demoted soon :D | ||
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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
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NoodleFish
South Africa198 Posts
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ODKStevez
Ireland1225 Posts
On May 19 2011 19:08 EmeraldSparks wrote: That's simply not true. If the skill differential is too large then you can only look at your replay and say, "well, I lost because he did absolutely everything better than me." When reviewing a replay, a gold player who plays another gold player can see what he did wrong and what he should do better next time. A gold player who runs into Idra and gets roflstomped into the ground will learn little to nothing. This is it xD | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Except that analogy doesn't really work. You're not playing against people that are massively better than you. You're playing against people that are roughly equivalent to you in almost every aspect (mechanics, general game-sense, etc.) except for one (race-specific knowledge). | ||
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
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Kamikiri
United States1319 Posts
On May 19 2011 19:32 Probe1 wrote: How are they going to crack down on people that lose on purpose? Shit, isn't that your choice to win or lose? I don't remember anything in the ToS that said you must always try to win. They don't want people trying to lose on purpose so they can go down to lower leagues and roflstomp and troll the newer players. As for the OP I don't quite understand you don't want to lose alot of games, so you just lose on purpose? Anyways if you want to improve you should want to be fighting people who are better than you, the people in your league will have around the same mechanics as you the only difference is they understand the races a bit better, its better to just practice against the people you are up against instead of just losing a million times on purpose to try to go and fight people who have no mechanics at all as to where you will not improve hardly. Doing what you are doing now is severely slowing your progress at improving as any race. | ||
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