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Hey TL. I know demoting oneself to the lower leagues is frowned upon, but the fact is, I am a Low diamond/high platinum Zerg player and I reciently made the change over to the Protoss. And in platinum, I continually lose. My match history before I started to deliberately demote myself was aweful, I had at least 25 games lost in a row (mainly cause I don't kow builds yet) but I wanted to demote myself where I can learn in the gold leagues at a fair ratio and no get fustrated losing every time.
Is anyone else having this problem, I was able to do it once before for Terran (I regretted that one as I don't like terran), but I know that I want to stick with Protoss, even though I lose, it is still a fun race and I really want to get better without wanting to kill myself! ^^
Any suggestions that do not include buying a new version of Starcraft 2?
Note: I have left over 60 games now in a row and it is still putting me against platinum players and even master players 5 times so far... I just don't understand the system, a I doing something wrong?
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How about you just keep playing StarCraft II, more than likely you are playing people who are in the league your suppose to be. Ignore what the ladder says about you and just have fun. Eventually you will be demoted.
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I have tried, it's just fustrating playing a new race which I really love the feel off and not having a chance cause i'm being thrown into the deep end. No one likes consistently losing =[
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You should have just bought another account to play protoss with O_o.
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On May 19 2011 18:25 WarChimp wrote:
How about you just keep playing StarCraft II, more than likely you are playing people who are in the league your suppose to be. Ignore what the ladder says about you and just have fun. Eventually you will be demoted.
I agree with this, but i also know that it is hard to have fun when you cant win a game in 25+ games. Just keep playing as hard as you can, maybe you wont even need to be demoted if you start learning some builds, and if you do get demoted, then thats where you're ment to be i suppose!
If you really want to be demoted just leave the game right when you join, though.
Edit: Or probe rush!
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Just looking at my match histroy, the system is putting me against OTHER people that are doing the same thing as me, all their match histroys show losses with 3 seconds inbetween, I don't wanna get myself trapped with all the masters noob farmers =[
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I would suggest you start practicing toss in 2v2/3v3/4v4, find a good friend, lose all your placement matches intentionally, and you should get placed into a fairly low league, then you can start to learn the hotkeys and build orders, yea they'll be 2v2 build, but you'll soon be able to go back to 1v1, and focus just on learning the builds, instead of learning the builds, hotkeys, micro techniques, mechanics, tech trees, counters, stutter step micro timings, etc... Just a suggestion.
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2v2 = Completly different that 1v1 however, you cannot play that with 1v1 builds and play properly =/
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Took me 100 games to get back to bronze from Platinum after S2 started. I wouldn't do it anymore though because they are going to start cracking down on people losing on purpose. Just play customs or against lower level friends with protoss to practice.
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On May 19 2011 18:23 ODKStevez wrote:Any suggestions that do not include buying a new version of Starcraft 2? Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 18:29 Megaliskuu wrote:
You should have just bought another account to play protoss with O_o.
Even though you haven't been demoted, I would try to actually play a few games to see what skill level you get matched against (forget league for now). Also, try to get some custom pick up practice games to improve your skill more also.
If you keep getting stomped you can consider dropping a few games and repeat. You never know if the system actually has you in bronze/silver level before actually demoting you.
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What you really should do is play the YABOT mod, if its build orders that you are laking in.
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Thanks for all the suggestions! ^^
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On May 19 2011 18:35 ODKStevez wrote:
2v2 = Completly different that 1v1 however, you cannot play that with 1v1 builds and play properly =/
That's true, but at least you can start to practise mechanics in team games...
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Just keep playing, playing against people better than you is the best way to improve, after that if you get moved down you get moved down.
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On May 19 2011 18:56 Gantritor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 18:35 ODKStevez wrote:
2v2 = Completly different that 1v1 however, you cannot play that with 1v1 builds and play properly =/ That's true, but at least you can start to practise mechanics in team games...
Yeah I think team games are good for that regard. For example, my larvae injects got a lot better just from massing team games. Creep spread as well.
For toss, you can work on placing perfect FF, practice chrono boosting everything/saving for certain situations.
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Intentionally losing matches for any reason is abusing the ladder and you're right that is frowned upon.
If you ever want to be a good player you need to sack up and realize that losing is necessary for learning. If you're picking up a new race and you're getting shitstomped then play for the early game in a safe route using standard 'safe' builds and try to last as long as you can. Eventually you will either figure it out and start winning or you will get demoted and start winning.
Iron sharpens iron. You should ALWAYS be aiming to play against the best competition available to you. That's how you get good. Crushing some idiot who takes 2 gas and masses marines w/ no upgrades in bronze isn't going to do anything for you.
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Play custom games. Platinum is pretty much all about macro/mechanics and those aren't that much different between races. Play like 50 custom games and I'm certain you'll have your P on Platinum level as well! 
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You obviously don't seem to have a problem with losing games.
So why don't you just play these games, instead of leaving? Out of those 60 games you left, maybe you could have won a couple. As for the rest, you would have learnt something from the way you lost! That's so much experience lost for you.
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Maybe you should've thought of that before you played so well in your placement matches!
Captain hindsight away!
Jk, contact Blizzard and ask them to demote you
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On May 19 2011 19:02 starcraft911 wrote:
Iron sharpens iron. You should ALWAYS be aiming to play against the best competition available to you. That's how you get good. Crushing some idiot who takes 2 gas and masses marines w/ no upgrades in bronze isn't going to do anything for you.
That's simply not true. If the skill differential is too large then you can only look at your replay and say, "well, I lost because he did absolutely everything better than me." When reviewing a replay, a gold player who plays another gold player can see what he did wrong and what he should do better next time. A gold player who runs into Idra and gets roflstomped into the ground will learn little to nothing.
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