If you play the multitask trainer and practice a build order on that enough to actually start beating the normal mode, I think you'll be on par with the platinum level skill.

That's at least what happened with me when I swtiched to zerg from protoss.

Bobster

Germany3075 Posts

May 19 2011 20:47 GMT

#82

On May 19 2011 18:31 ODKStevez wrote:
Just looking at my match histroy, the system is putting me against OTHER people that are doing the same thing as me, all their match histroys show losses with 3 seconds inbetween, I don't wanna get myself trapped with all the masters noob farmers =[

sounds like karma

Deja Thoris

South Africa646 Posts

May 19 2011 20:50 GMT

#83

Why not just play until the system decides it thinks you are in the right place for your skill level? The whole pretext for this thread seems stupid to me. You could be playing and practising your new race. Instead, you will spend hours spamming losses, checking loss spammers profiles and starting threads.

Play the game, don't try to game the game.

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

May 19 2011 20:51 GMT

#84

Don't worry -- even if you haven't been demoted by Blizzard, you'll always be demoted in my eyes.

DarkPlasmaBall

United States45167 Posts

May 19 2011 20:54 GMT

#85

Play against your opponents anyway.

You're stuck in platinum and bad with your new race. You may be set up against similar people (those with low MMRs but oddly high leagues) but have no idea if you keep leaving the game.

Or just keep leaving. That'll eventually work too.

archonOOid

1983 Posts

May 19 2011 20:55 GMT

#86

while you can't demote yourself you can demote your play style and let the MMR do the magic! But seriously just keep playing and the MMR will determine your position. Also, if you are in plat you can still play vs not plat players.

AmericanUmlaut

Germany2581 Posts

May 19 2011 20:58 GMT

#87

Honestly, I think the basis of the OP is wrong. I'm a high plat/low diamond player and would LOVE to be getting consistently matched up against high masters players and getting curbstomped every game. At my level, if I scout an all-in and survive it, I still have no idea if I defended it correctly or my opponent just made more macro errors than I did. Getting matched up against pros, I'd lose every game, but I'd learn piles and piles from every match, and since the whole point of playing a competitive game is to get better (at least for me), staying at the same level despite losing would be ideal.

My issue is actually the opposite; if I have a bad day and go 2-18 over a few days, I end up playing against high gold players that I can beat simply by a-moving my larger army against them for a week. Winning games like that is simply no fun, and doesn't to anything to help me improve as a player.

drgoats

United States310 Posts

May 19 2011 20:58 GMT

#88

If you are determined to demote yourself, I am pretty sure that you will need to mix in some wins in order to be replaced. The system doesn't have any idea where you stand because you keep losing. It needs you to stabilize in order to reevaluate your position on the ladder.

moody0428

Canada24 Posts

May 19 2011 21:01 GMT

#89

I would suggest just play custom games for now and if you find the matchup you dont want you can always just leave

. when i play in custom matches there are some odd chances where you'll find somenoe who is diamond+

MangoTango

United States3670 Posts

May 19 2011 21:03 GMT

#90

I tried to demote from diamond because I switched from T to Random. I lost 60 games in a row, no demotion. Then on the 61st, I got demoted to Silver. :O Awkward. :S

xlava

United States676 Posts

May 19 2011 21:03 GMT

#91

Don't demote yourself... its not worth it. I saw this mentioned before but I'll reiterate since I believe it to be the best option available. Play some 2v2, not to practice strategy, but builds and mechanics. Don't worry if the guy you're playing with was pissed because you didn't cannon rush with him, its okay, nobody cares about team games. Just make sure you're constantly building probes and keeping up with the proper timings and unit micro. Eventually you'll get good enough that you'll start winning in your current league; demotion is not necessary.

debbyCYA

Egypt22 Posts

May 19 2011 21:04 GMT

#92

I don't understand why you want to be demoted soo badly. No offense but being a high level platinum player doesn't mean your going to be facing ridiculously unforgiving opponents. If you can play zerg at that level you should be able to play protoss at around the same level. And obviously you don't care about losing rating so just hop in a match, and be like 'imma pwn this kid... DT rush aww yeah' and then execute. Just have fun you'll be winning matches in no time.

Mithriel

Netherlands2969 Posts

May 19 2011 21:06 GMT

#93

I wanted to do the same thing when i switched races, then i decided against it. I just watched replays picked a strategy for each matchup and tried the basics out in build order tester.

Than i tried it on ladder, despite a lost a lot, whenever i lost i watched the replay and learned from that. You learn more from playing higher level of people than lower level of people.

Durn

Canada360 Posts

May 19 2011 21:24 GMT

#94

I don't see why you would purposely lose. You can still play the games out and learn as much as you can.

random user

85 Posts

May 19 2011 21:30 GMT

#95

On May 19 2011 20:04 ODKStevez wrote:

Show nested quote +

Can you provide proof with a link or something?

I've been looking and haven't seen any promotions or demotions in a couple different places I check. Has anyone have personal experience being promoted or demoted in the last couple of days?

If it's true that it's not bugged, we should be able to debunk it pretty quickly.

And if it is true, maybe we can find out exactly when the bug first appeared.

PartyBiscuit

Canada4525 Posts

May 19 2011 21:36 GMT

#96

Demotion/Promotion doesn't matter it's your MMR anyway.

Also, just find a friend to work out some build orders, go play some custom games (Shatter temple or Xel Naga are pretty popular), you usually get a range of players from Silver-Diamond on there anyway.

It's not like all of a sudden being Gold will allow you to play your race on even footing. You already have plat/diamond level mechanics, just spend a few days getting used to the race and learn a couple build orders, it's not that hard to change races if you're not a competitive level.

mojojo800

United States66 Posts

May 19 2011 21:41 GMT

#97

I have to say even though its disheartening just keep working through. The times where I improved the fastest was when I was playing people 2 leagues above me. I would get pounded. But it forces you to play at that level or see what your play has to be to be at that level. ESPECIALLY if you have the mechanics to be at that level with another race. Just keep going you will either demote or get your skill eventually

(btw dont leave games fast apparently blizzard might ban for that due to portrait farmers)

kaztah

Norway1221 Posts

May 19 2011 21:44 GMT

#98

On May 19 2011 19:08 EmeraldSparks wrote:

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That's simply not true. If the skill differential is too large then you can only look at your replay and say, "well, I lost because he did absolutely everything better than me." When reviewing a replay, a gold player who plays another gold player can see what he did wrong and what he should do better next time. A gold player who runs into Idra and gets roflstomped into the ground will learn little to nothing.

It's funny, because winning or losing has very little to do with improvement. You can still look at a replay to see how you played, no matter how good or bad your opponent is.

The fact that people worry so much about winning or losing in these lower leagues is probably one of the reasons why they're actually still stuck there. Improving for the sake of improving is just vastly superior to improving to win.

In fact, he should aim to play against the best possible players, and see how long he lasts and what he did wrong. Not base your play against bad players who does everything wrong. Nothing is gained from that.

Ways you can learn how to properly learn in this game is to only focusing on few aspects at the time. For example: on constant production of workers for 10 games in a row and avoiding supply blocks. Never watch your army, never micro. It wont win you games at first, but you can be certain it will help you develop your play vastly more then microing 5 marauders vs a couple zealots and a couple stalkers. Make goals and reach your goals, no matter what opponent you're playing. Demoting is just selfdestructive.

Tsuki.eu

Portugal1049 Posts

May 19 2011 21:48 GMT

#99

stop wasting time on leaving games and just play^^

ensign_lee

United States1178 Posts

May 19 2011 21:50 GMT

#100

On May 19 2011 19:54 blackone wrote:
I don't understand the attitude of the OP. You don't want to lose a ton of games, and your solution for that is losing a ton of games? Is it to say to yourself that you lost on purpose so these games "don't count" or something?

No, he just doesn't want to get his face kicked in repeatedly for 25 straight games. That's Fing demoralizing.

Better to start from a low place and move up rather than start from a high place and fall down