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DNB
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland995 Posts
May 19 2011 11:04 GMT
#41
Did you go on a tilt after you lost to my all-in on Shattered Temple? I remember you saying how I don't deserve any wins and how I'm going to ruin E-sports, while you ignored me in chat.

Anyways, I think you're definitely higher than platinum. I watched your replay and your macro is at par with other diamond protosses I've met.

Now stop losing games intentionally and play. I'm sure you will catch up with other diamond players pretty fast.
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
May 19 2011 11:04 GMT
#42
On May 19 2011 19:21 GoKu` wrote:
The promotion/Demoting is bugged right now. Blizzard is working on it.


Can you provide proof with a link or something?
Luppa <3
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 11:08:49
May 19 2011 11:05 GMT
#43
On May 19 2011 20:04 DNB wrote:
Did you go on a tilt after you lost to my all-in on Shattered Temple? I remember you saying how I don't deserve any wins and how I'm going to ruin E-sports, while you ignored me in chat.

Anyways, I think you're definitely higher than platinum. I watched your replay and your macro is at par with other diamond protosses I've met.

Now stop losing games intentionally and play. I'm sure you will catch up with other diamond players pretty fast.


Indeed off topic but I apologies for that one. I hate all ins, especially when I see them comming from the start and still can't hold them =[ Just feels really stupid to me.
Luppa <3
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
May 19 2011 11:05 GMT
#44
you can practice protoss by searching for players in public chat channels or even the teamliquid private channel, also TLpractice is nice. And if that doesn't work, just join a custom melee map, I find people playing Xel Naga and Shattered Temple 24/7 and is a good place to practice without worry.

The other thing is to KEEP playing and trying to win, eventually your MMR will change and pit you up with opponents of similar skill. It doesn't matter what league you are in, only your MMR as that decides who you play, not your rank or league.
Alver
Profile Joined November 2010
United States177 Posts
May 19 2011 11:08 GMT
#45
On May 19 2011 19:48 ODKStevez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 19:08 EmeraldSparks wrote:
On May 19 2011 19:02 starcraft911 wrote:
Iron sharpens iron. You should ALWAYS be aiming to play against the best competition available to you. That's how you get good. Crushing some idiot who takes 2 gas and masses marines w/ no upgrades in bronze isn't going to do anything for you.

That's simply not true. If the skill differential is too large then you can only look at your replay and say, "well, I lost because he did absolutely everything better than me." When reviewing a replay, a gold player who plays another gold player can see what he did wrong and what he should do better next time. A gold player who runs into Idra and gets roflstomped into the ground will learn little to nothing.


This is it xD


i personally feel the opposite

a few months ago i was diamond since the game came out and did a solid 51% win over 400 games diamond bracket the entire time. i played a friend of mine who plays wow and was a masters player, i lost 0-2 to him during the peak of people saying pvz was imbalanced and it made me reevaluate my play in a way i would have NEVER done vs lower players (because my sloppy fun macro style play worked in diamond when i didint loose to 1 base all ins). 1 week later i won 12 games in a row and got promoted to masters

i also have a rl friend i play with, he played alone on his acc for a while and did 95% 1 base all ins. i constantly told him what was wrong with his strats but they worked against what seemed to be like really bad players so he kept it up for months. eventually wed both play his account trading off at my house and the account got worked up to high diamond (where you play masters sometimes) and his 1 base strats went from like 55% win to 20% win. after that i coached him on some macro strats and his skill level doubled. he improved even more from this in 1 month than the previous 6 months combined.

you might as well play the computer if you want to demote yourself below platinum or your trading getting better at this game for having fun stomping noobs.
DNB
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland995 Posts
May 19 2011 11:08 GMT
#46
On May 19 2011 20:05 ODKStevez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 20:04 DNB wrote:
Did you go on a tilt after you lost to my all-in on Shattered Temple? I remember you saying how I don't deserve any wins and how I'm going to ruin E-sports, while you ignored me in chat.

Anyways, I think you're definitely higher than platinum. I watched your replay and your macro is at par with other diamond protosses I've met.

Now stop losing games intentionally and play. I'm sure you will catch up with other diamond players pretty fast.


Indeedm off topic but I apologies for that one. I hate all ins, especially when I see them comming from the start and still can't hold them =[ Just feels really stupid to me.


You definitely need to change your attitude if you want to improve. Blaming the game when you lose is a sign of immaturity. Though I agree, that all-in is extremely strong even when the opponent knows how to react, that's why I use it sometimes, especially when people accuse me of being a liquid faker. ;P

You can unblock me and we can practice if you want.
Xedat
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany358 Posts
May 19 2011 11:09 GMT
#47
I know that you probably will not read this because it is on page 3, but have you checked what league the players you are playing against are in?
You will play against bad enemies before you will be demoted. If you lost 40 games in a row you should play against gold level players.
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
May 19 2011 11:15 GMT
#48
On May 19 2011 20:09 Xedat wrote:
I know that you probably will not read this because it is on page 3, but have you checked what league the players you are playing against are in?
You will play against bad enemies before you will be demoted. If you lost 40 games in a row you should play against gold level players.


They are all bronze but they are all portrait farmer masters.
Luppa <3
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
May 19 2011 11:16 GMT
#49
On May 19 2011 20:08 DNB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 20:05 ODKStevez wrote:
On May 19 2011 20:04 DNB wrote:
Did you go on a tilt after you lost to my all-in on Shattered Temple? I remember you saying how I don't deserve any wins and how I'm going to ruin E-sports, while you ignored me in chat.

Anyways, I think you're definitely higher than platinum. I watched your replay and your macro is at par with other diamond protosses I've met.

Now stop losing games intentionally and play. I'm sure you will catch up with other diamond players pretty fast.


Indeedm off topic but I apologies for that one. I hate all ins, especially when I see them comming from the start and still can't hold them =[ Just feels really stupid to me.


You definitely need to change your attitude if you want to improve. Blaming the game when you lose is a sign of immaturity. Though I agree, that all-in is extremely strong even when the opponent knows how to react, that's why I use it sometimes, especially when people accuse me of being a liquid faker. ;P

You can unblock me and we can practice if you want.


I took you off ignore about 3 minutes after ;p Also, my attitude isn't usually like that, it is the same as most players with terran ;p Though I know it was my fault and it was my lack of experience, but that doesn't take away that it is so fustrating.
Luppa <3
xaeiu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
432 Posts
May 19 2011 11:21 GMT
#50
On May 19 2011 20:04 ODKStevez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 19:21 GoKu` wrote:
The promotion/Demoting is bugged right now. Blizzard is working on it.


Can you provide proof with a link or something?


as you probably read, there was even a thread yesterday where bnet us created its own 2nd grandmaster league.
i think i can also remember cases like moman getting dropped from gm and not being in a new league now...
just search for it
DNB
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland995 Posts
May 19 2011 11:21 GMT
#51
On May 19 2011 20:16 ODKStevez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 20:08 DNB wrote:
On May 19 2011 20:05 ODKStevez wrote:
On May 19 2011 20:04 DNB wrote:
Did you go on a tilt after you lost to my all-in on Shattered Temple? I remember you saying how I don't deserve any wins and how I'm going to ruin E-sports, while you ignored me in chat.

Anyways, I think you're definitely higher than platinum. I watched your replay and your macro is at par with other diamond protosses I've met.

Now stop losing games intentionally and play. I'm sure you will catch up with other diamond players pretty fast.


Indeedm off topic but I apologies for that one. I hate all ins, especially when I see them comming from the start and still can't hold them =[ Just feels really stupid to me.


You definitely need to change your attitude if you want to improve. Blaming the game when you lose is a sign of immaturity. Though I agree, that all-in is extremely strong even when the opponent knows how to react, that's why I use it sometimes, especially when people accuse me of being a liquid faker. ;P

You can unblock me and we can practice if you want.


I took you off ignore about 3 minutes after ;p Also, my attitude isn't usually like that, it is the same as most players with terran ;p Though I know it was my fault and it was my lack of experience, but that doesn't take away that it is so fustrating.


Yeah I understand that. It's normal to be angry, but it tells a lot about a person how they vent their anger.

By the way, I'm curious why do you have recent wins in your match history that have lasted less than 3 minutes? Looking at your build order, you only make 1 probe and your opponents make no workers at all. What is that all about?
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
May 19 2011 11:24 GMT
#52
On May 19 2011 20:21 DNB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 20:16 ODKStevez wrote:
On May 19 2011 20:08 DNB wrote:
On May 19 2011 20:05 ODKStevez wrote:
On May 19 2011 20:04 DNB wrote:
Did you go on a tilt after you lost to my all-in on Shattered Temple? I remember you saying how I don't deserve any wins and how I'm going to ruin E-sports, while you ignored me in chat.

Anyways, I think you're definitely higher than platinum. I watched your replay and your macro is at par with other diamond protosses I've met.

Now stop losing games intentionally and play. I'm sure you will catch up with other diamond players pretty fast.


Indeedm off topic but I apologies for that one. I hate all ins, especially when I see them comming from the start and still can't hold them =[ Just feels really stupid to me.


You definitely need to change your attitude if you want to improve. Blaming the game when you lose is a sign of immaturity. Though I agree, that all-in is extremely strong even when the opponent knows how to react, that's why I use it sometimes, especially when people accuse me of being a liquid faker. ;P

You can unblock me and we can practice if you want.


I took you off ignore about 3 minutes after ;p Also, my attitude isn't usually like that, it is the same as most players with terran ;p Though I know it was my fault and it was my lack of experience, but that doesn't take away that it is so fustrating.


Yeah I understand that. It's normal to be angry, but it tells a lot about a person how they vent their anger.

By the way, I'm curious why do you have recent wins in your match history that have lasted less than 3 minutes? Looking at your build order, you only make 1 probe and your opponents make no workers at all. What is that all about?

His MMR is so low hes fighting portrait farmers, meaning when he gets demoted hes going down to bronze.
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
May 19 2011 11:28 GMT
#53
So why does it matter in which league you are in?! O_o The opponents you get are based on the MMR right?
DNB
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland995 Posts
May 19 2011 11:29 GMT
#54
Yeah that's what I guess too. Then again he just lost a game against a bronze terran by not building anything at all for the 8 minutes. I really don't get it why he is doing this.
ihavetofartosis
Profile Joined January 2011
1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 11:31:31
May 19 2011 11:31 GMT
#55
lol oops
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
May 19 2011 11:36 GMT
#56
On May 19 2011 20:21 DNB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 20:16 ODKStevez wrote:
On May 19 2011 20:08 DNB wrote:
On May 19 2011 20:05 ODKStevez wrote:
On May 19 2011 20:04 DNB wrote:
Did you go on a tilt after you lost to my all-in on Shattered Temple? I remember you saying how I don't deserve any wins and how I'm going to ruin E-sports, while you ignored me in chat.

Anyways, I think you're definitely higher than platinum. I watched your replay and your macro is at par with other diamond protosses I've met.

Now stop losing games intentionally and play. I'm sure you will catch up with other diamond players pretty fast.


Indeedm off topic but I apologies for that one. I hate all ins, especially when I see them comming from the start and still can't hold them =[ Just feels really stupid to me.


You definitely need to change your attitude if you want to improve. Blaming the game when you lose is a sign of immaturity. Though I agree, that all-in is extremely strong even when the opponent knows how to react, that's why I use it sometimes, especially when people accuse me of being a liquid faker. ;P

You can unblock me and we can practice if you want.


I took you off ignore about 3 minutes after ;p Also, my attitude isn't usually like that, it is the same as most players with terran ;p Though I know it was my fault and it was my lack of experience, but that doesn't take away that it is so fustrating.


Yeah I understand that. It's normal to be angry, but it tells a lot about a person how they vent their anger.

By the way, I'm curious why do you have recent wins in your match history that have lasted less than 3 minutes? Looking at your build order, you only make 1 probe and your opponents make no workers at all. What is that all about?


Stuck witha bunch of portrait farmers, no idea what is going on, trying to figure it out atm, and also, you were the first person that I got really fustrated at ;p
Luppa <3
OFCORPSE
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden355 Posts
May 19 2011 11:38 GMT
#57
On May 19 2011 19:21 GoKu` wrote:
The promotion/Demoting is bugged right now. Blizzard is working on it.


It is? I've been trying to get into masters on my 2nd account for over 150 games now, constantly playing against 800+ masters, win rate is around 60%, yet I just keep getting points in diamond, almost #1 in the world in diamond league
Liquor saved me from sports.
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
May 19 2011 11:38 GMT
#58
On May 19 2011 20:15 ODKStevez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 20:09 Xedat wrote:
I know that you probably will not read this because it is on page 3, but have you checked what league the players you are playing against are in?
You will play against bad enemies before you will be demoted. If you lost 40 games in a row you should play against gold level players.


They are all bronze but they are all portrait farmer masters.

Okay if this is true, it's pretty awesome. The MMR system must be better than I thought If is let's people who lose intentionally just play against each other.
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
May 19 2011 11:39 GMT
#59
Go to the practice partner threads.
Rather than intentionally losing 100 games to practice against bad players, just go through the practice partner thread and find ones at the level you want.

That way, once you feel comfortable with Protoss, you don't need to rework yourself through the ladder. Customs are your friends.
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
DNB
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland995 Posts
May 19 2011 11:39 GMT
#60
On May 19 2011 20:36 ODKStevez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 20:21 DNB wrote:
On May 19 2011 20:16 ODKStevez wrote:
On May 19 2011 20:08 DNB wrote:
On May 19 2011 20:05 ODKStevez wrote:
On May 19 2011 20:04 DNB wrote:
Did you go on a tilt after you lost to my all-in on Shattered Temple? I remember you saying how I don't deserve any wins and how I'm going to ruin E-sports, while you ignored me in chat.

Anyways, I think you're definitely higher than platinum. I watched your replay and your macro is at par with other diamond protosses I've met.

Now stop losing games intentionally and play. I'm sure you will catch up with other diamond players pretty fast.


Indeedm off topic but I apologies for that one. I hate all ins, especially when I see them comming from the start and still can't hold them =[ Just feels really stupid to me.


You definitely need to change your attitude if you want to improve. Blaming the game when you lose is a sign of immaturity. Though I agree, that all-in is extremely strong even when the opponent knows how to react, that's why I use it sometimes, especially when people accuse me of being a liquid faker. ;P

You can unblock me and we can practice if you want.


I took you off ignore about 3 minutes after ;p Also, my attitude isn't usually like that, it is the same as most players with terran ;p Though I know it was my fault and it was my lack of experience, but that doesn't take away that it is so fustrating.


Yeah I understand that. It's normal to be angry, but it tells a lot about a person how they vent their anger.

By the way, I'm curious why do you have recent wins in your match history that have lasted less than 3 minutes? Looking at your build order, you only make 1 probe and your opponents make no workers at all. What is that all about?


Stuck witha bunch of portrait farmers, no idea what is going on, trying to figure it out atm, and also, you were the first person that I got really fustrated at ;p


Are you losing against bronze players intentionally now? Dude, just take a break from SC2 for a few days, even a week. You seem like you're on a bad passive tilt...
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