EPTWhen the score is 3-0 in football at half time, don't the casters also say that is is over and stuff like that?
Totalbiscuit on IdrA's casting - Page 2
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BeefEU
Netherlands260 Posts
When the score is 3-0 in football at half time, don't the casters also say that is is over and stuff like that? | ||
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PsyChill
Australia58 Posts
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Diglett
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Nayl
Canada413 Posts
But I can't think of more awkward sc2 casting set up than IdrA trying to cast a game by himself. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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Synk
United States297 Posts
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Pufftrees
2449 Posts
On a related note, IdrA was a better commentator then Gretorp and InControl (and frankly I enjoy them both quite a bit). | ||
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Thoramas
Singapore152 Posts
Totalbiscuit is trying to say that there are 2 genres of commentators in sports, the play-by-play caster and the analytical colour-commentator. He gives an example of this by saying that Idra is not good at play-by-play but excellent as an analysis commentator, and that in a casting duo (or trio in the case of korean casting) there needs to be a balance of these 2 attributes. Going on to say that an analysis commentator needs to be backed up by the play-by-play caster to form a good balance. Maybe try reading the whole thing next time. Edit: at the time of writing this post the thread title was about TB slaming Idra before it got changed to the current title. | ||
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Skarmory
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
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Valroth
New Zealand28 Posts
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
i mean you need two types of casters (read tastosis) where one is the guy that spouts all the stats and strats and the other leads in (TB) but i dont feel TB has much room to speak. especially since i dont think idra's aspiration is to become a professional caster, it hardly matters if he is a good caster or not. he is a progamer after all... | ||
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
On May 13 2011 16:12 Swineflew wrote: I guess this just rubbed me the wrong way, and I don't understand how a guy that got his fanbase from casting WoW videos is going to bash someone who has been part of the starcraft scene since before he uploaded his first youtube video. Because one man got his fanbase by casting and the other got a fanbase by playing, and people who automatically expect the latter to be as good or knowledgeable as the former in the former's business is disrespecting an entire profession. Yes, a profession that exists beyond the scope of Starcraft 2. Everything Total Biscuit said is true or is a good point, and while many people may feel the "it's GG" early on is good, the reality is that by frequenting this site you're most likely not even a casual as he describes. TB is a very good caster, and to disregard his opinion because of blind homage to Idra is doing a disservice to everyone, including Idra, who if he's actually committed to casting (which I don't think he is), would take the advice to heart. How constructive criticism works. On May 13 2011 16:11 C.W. wrote: Who is totalbiscuit? A famous, popular, wide-reaching, veteran caster who brings in crowds for watching people play video games. Edit: On May 13 2011 16:17 Xeris wrote: IdrA doesn't even want to be a caster, he just does it for w/e. This argument/any argument would only be valid if he cared about being a caster enough to want to actually learn how to do it. That's what I figured  So I actually think TB's rant was a little bizarre in that respect, but according to his video he seemed to be explaining the difference between the two casting roles and his pet peeve. | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
The last 80% of the post was about something else too, which was kinda interesting. | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
On May 13 2011 16:12 Swineflew wrote: I guess this just rubbed me the wrong way, and I don't understand how a guy that got his fanbase from casting WoW videos is going to bash someone who has been part of the starcraft scene since before he uploaded his first youtube video. Let me just say that I was a fan of TB before he made this leap to SC2, that's how I stumbled on this article. I just don't like his SC2 casting, and find it stupid that he call out a legit caster/player. I was simply curious if I was the only one feeling this way. It rubbed you the wrong way when you thought he was bashing IdrA. Stupid sensationalist titles. | ||
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odder
United States405 Posts
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nick1689
Australia494 Posts
I kinda agree with TB though, Idra has is a baller full of analytical awesome. He knows whats happening at all times and how the match will likely proceed. But he can be monotonous, and doesn't have the flair and excitement in his play-by-plays that other shoutcasters bring to the game Idra needs to be paired with somebody colourful. Say combine Idra with HD, that would be a good duo of casters TB outright saying Idra is a bad caster is just taking it to far, he's a different kind of caster, but he's not a bad caster. I prefer Idra over TB (and thats totally not because im a total Idra fanboy >_>). Idra is like Artosis on crack (in the analytical sense), but without the wacky personality | ||
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Avs
Korea (North)857 Posts
Totalbiscuit's style is great in terms of play by play. However, just like he says people don't need to be told when it's "GG", people also generally don't need to be told what literally is going on the screen either. Totalbiscuit shines when it comes to using extravegant words to liven up the gameplay, and his spitfire casting also makes the game more enjoyable. But those who don't like him because he provides little analytical depth are right in that thats where his casting stops. Sometimes people just want more out of their SC2 entertainment besides play by play. One issue with the NASL cast is that other caster. Gretorp is an OK caster but he makes many mistakes and obviously the NASL casting isnt as professional as the IPL casting. When Gretorp was casting with Idra, he often gave Idra little time to analyze, and Idra's analysis was often longer than what people were looking at, so it's difficult to follow unless you really understand the game (as the observer kept going all over the place and not always looking in the "best" places for analytical comment). I still appreciate the guest casting and I even want to say Idra and Gretorp is better than Gretorp and Incontrol. But Gretorp is one of the weakest casters available right now (relative to the exposure). Ultimately, for all the casters that are out there, they all have their strong points and weaknesses. I honestly don't believe we've seen the best casters out there due to the fact that they aren't getting paid enough to attract the kind of talent and depth that we see in a lot of other sports. | ||
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Rabbitmaster
1357 Posts
On May 13 2011 16:17 Thoramas wrote: Way to take words out of context. Totalbiscuit is trying to say that there are 2 genres of commentators in sports, the play-by-play caster and the analytical colour-commentator. He gives an example of this by saying that Idra is not good at play-by-play but excellent as an analysis commentator, and that in a casting duo (or trio in the case of korean casting) there needs to be a balance of these 2 attributes. Going on to say that an analysis commentator needs to be backed up by the play-by-play caster to form a good balance. Maybe try reading the whole thing next time. Yeah i agree. I feel for TB now, 1 million Idra fanbois are gonna hate on him since they only read the title before going into a frenzy -.- | ||
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Dwarsen
Sweden13 Posts
Also, he's completely right. You guys can hate on TotalBiscuit all you want, IdrA's strengths lie in his mind, not his casting. | ||
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