Totalbiscuit on IdrA's casting - Page 29

On May 13 2011 21:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh wonderful, 28 pages of nonsense, mostly by people who didn't actually read the post.

Funny how TB's stream gets more viewers than most pro players, he must be doing something right ... all the idra fan boys need to stop defending as Idra wasn't attacked in the first place ...

Reputable leagues and broadcasters also hire casters who are professionally trained to speak.

TB's methods are very similar to djWheat's. I don't see how you set them apart like you did; TB simply has to focus more on the game because he often casts alone. That's the key. He casts alone most of the time, so he has to talk about the game because he can't really talk about strategy. If he had another human being to talk to like djWheat almost always does, they would fulfill a very similar role.

Korean example says otherwise. To grow a scene you need someone to entertain, not to educate them to the level of a pro player. Korean commentators build excitement and create entertainment. They talk about in depth strategy, but it is not their main focus.

so you find enthusiasm stupid and insulting

Wrong, if you want to make the scene grow, you need to make the casting entertaining. Many of the people who follow TB won't ever follow Day9, Artosis or any "non-play by play casters". Try to "educate" them and they will leave, becaue they don't care - many don't even play the game.

Players must be educated. Spectators must be entertained. That's two completely different types of audience - and even some players watch the matches for fun, not to learn something. As many people said, you follow Day9 to get better at the game, NOT to relax and enjoy the show. In other words, you only follow professionnal players who cast if you're already playing Starcraft 2. On the other hand, you can certainly follow professional casters even if you don't care about being in master league.

On May 13 2011 21:09 HoldenR wrote:
Totalbiscuit telling someone else "No, you're casting wrong, you should be more like me" is just the funniest thing in the world.



Totalbiscuit is one of the worst SC2 casters in my opinion, and the hilarity of him having the nerve to criticize Idra this extensively screams, to me anyway, that he's extremely jealous. Then again, after some of TB's statements, I've always felt his entire casting career has been nothing more than cashgrab.

On May 13 2011 21:15 Drteeth wrote:


Really? Really? Don't be ridiculous. So Day and wheat NEED to make themselves look good??
Sigh ....

On May 13 2011 16:11 C.W. wrote:
Who is totalbiscuit?

On May 13 2011 21:17 ayekuf wrote:
IdrA: calm, analytical, very good at explaining whats going on and not afraid to give his opinion on something wether it be good or bad.

Totalbiscuit: constantly shouting nonsense, very low level knowledge of the game, not qualified to give opinions on most games.

I must be missing something. It's not my intention to flame but Totalbiscuits commentating has put me off watching so many games I wanted to see in IPL and other tournaments because I cannot stand his constant shouting and his often wrong analysis.

At least with a guy like HD his knowledge might not be top notch but hes not shouting all the time shoving himself down your throat.

Someone like Totalbiscuit ruins games for a lot of viewers, and would be best suited sticking to casting on youtube where people can choose to watch or not, instead of major tournaments.

Hardcore players will not learn anything from this. Casual players more often than not, don't WANT to learn anything from this.

On May 13 2011 21:23 HoldenR wrote:

Of course. Most of the SC2 community puts on a very well mannered image in any public broadcast because the entire SC2 community has that public image of "being mannered". Which isn't the worst thing ever, but you won't hear any casters really putting each other down.

That said, I don't know what day9/chill/wheat's actual opinions of the guy are. Maybe they do like him, they all seem like friendly enough people and like they get along with just about anyone. However, if they disliked him, they could certainly never voice that dislike. It would be a horrible idea for their public image, and probably, for that of SC2's community as a whole.

On May 13 2011 21:24 Clamev wrote:

WHAAAT? not learn anything from this? not learn anything from the best US Zerg with the best understanding of the game out there? This clearly shows that Total biscuit has no idea what he is talking about.
This is not fucking wow we are talking about where everybody knows what everybody is doing and just oogles and some good execution.The Metagame changes constantly and it changes first at the top and when it´s showen in tournaments then it becomes popular on the ladder.
This is why It is so great to have someone casting who has such a great insight.

You want to appeal to a more casual audience ? that´s fine i don´t mind.
Chill,DJwheat and many others don´t have the knowledge of an idra or Artosis but they know their basics. I´m sorry but when casters make statements that make even a gold level player face palm you're basically leaving out your core fan base.
Those are the people who will pay for a stream those are the people who will buy merchandise those are the people who will come out to live events.Not some guy who just happened to click on a youtube video.Those guys are only fans of the caster and only make the caster money.

P.S.I´m a little scared of Chill because i used the word metagame 0.ô