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ExileStrife
Profile Joined February 2009
United States170 Posts
April 01 2011 21:38 GMT
#381
Can't hurt. That's like only 20 cheeseburgers anyway.
SCbiff
Profile Joined May 2010
110 Posts
April 01 2011 21:38 GMT
#382
I really want to support nasl, and $20 is a more than fair price for 3 months of lots of SC2...but, wtf is up with "minimal commercial interruption"? I would like to know what this means exactly before I buy.

Also, please tell me they aren't planning to use octoshape because that's a non-starter for me.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
April 01 2011 21:39 GMT
#383
On April 02 2011 06:38 SCbiff wrote:
I really want to support nasl, and $20 is a more than fair price for 3 months of lots of SC2...but, wtf is up with "minimal commercial interruption"? I would like to know what this means exactly before I buy.

Also, please tell me they aren't planning to use octoshape because that's a non-starter for me.


Sure use Octoshape for a tournament that makes you pay through Justin.tv
tezukazone
Profile Joined April 2011
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 21:45:58
April 01 2011 21:40 GMT
#384
On April 02 2011 06:24 Klonere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 06:23 tezukazone wrote:
On April 02 2011 06:10 ShotoElite wrote:
On April 02 2011 06:08 tezukazone wrote:
Sorry but ...if you pay 150$ for NBA league pass, you get to watch a full season. You wouldn't pay the same amount of $150 for a NBA D-league pass, regardless if the season was twice as long. Sports and competitive games are more fun to watch when played at the highest levels.. and NASL is basically the minor leagues of starcraft2, so if they want people to pay there needs to be much better reasons justifying the equivalent price tag to GSL.

NASL is not the minor leagues of starcraft2.... your comparisons are waaaaay off lol



I don't understand what is off by my comparisons, maybe other people have their "favorite" players they personally follow and would like to watch, maybe making this league more attractive to them. But other than that, the best players wont be playing here. Which means this isn't the most prestigious league. Which means it is not the MAJOR LEAGUES. If I am wrong about something, feel free to correct me, but I am under the assumption that they are doing their best to restrict Koreans and "foreigners"(non Americans in this case) from this league. Which is going to drastically lower the skill level and honestly I watch starcraft2 to see the best of the best, maybe others feel differently.


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Your seriously telling me that this group of players are NOT the Major Leagues?


I'm not going to lie, I had not seen that list of players, but I am still skeptical of NASL. Sure that list is pretty decent, but half those players are still code-A or below... so yes, it is not quite Major Leagues. Unless by Major League, you mean like Major League soccer, where a few old super stars come to retire and relax. Put it this way, I did not pay for GSL until like the Code-S stuff started, I watched it till then but didn't think it was worth buying till the 4th or 5th season or so, where they had established a very professional service and high-quality matches with the most premier players. NASL has big shoes to fill if they want money from people like me, who probably are satisfied/only have time to watch one big tournament at a time. Like I said before, this is not a major league cast. There's like 3-4 players here I really want to watch play, the rest I could really care less(as proven by how bored I was watching some of these foreigners in GSL).


I will still probably try to watch some NASL matches if I find a chance to, it's not like i'm ruling it out completely. If the competition does get high enough and eventually starts to feel worth it, then I may consider it paying. But it took GSL several seasons for them to convince me it was worth paying, and NASL shouldn't expect anything different without proving themselves. And the way they have started out, with people on opposite ends of the spectrum, some (possibly NASL employees) blindly supporting it and bashing people who are skeptical, and others just so against it without full information(myself included I guess), it really creates a negative atmosphere. We'll just have to see once it actually starts up, but everything i've heard about it so far does not give me much optimism.
Greem
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 21:42:47
April 01 2011 21:41 GMT
#385
i think ill wait untill first games to see how it is and then decide. As many above said, i gladly paying for GSL and GSTL, i've payed to see Blizzcon as well, so i think if quality of games and actual casting is good, np for me.
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reprise
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada316 Posts
April 01 2011 21:42 GMT
#386
On April 02 2011 06:35 ImHuko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 06:31 udgnim wrote:
On April 02 2011 06:25 ImHuko wrote:
To add, GSL is asking 10$ and they actually have to run their own stream


1 NASL season (10+ weeks) is longer than 1 GSL season (~1 month)

Yes but if you added in the actual money spent producing the stream, it is far far far far less than GSL. The most expensive program I know for producing a stream is Wirecast and its like 300$ I think. Xsplit does close to the same thing as Wirecast and its free. (Wirecast makes it 100000x easier, but yea). They are using JTV, not their own stream so really the only thing they are spending on it is the internet connection, which you can easily make back by running ads on JTV (assuming they get the numbers TSL does)


So you don't think people should be compensated for their work? Gom is a large company who isn't only invested in eSports. NASL does one thing and one thing only.
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Luiwtf
Profile Joined January 2011
England217 Posts
April 01 2011 21:43 GMT
#387
I won't be for a few reasons.

I'm not confident of the production values after the Clash of the Titans announcement match.
I don't particularly like the casters.
I don't really have time to watch GSL and NASL and I prefer the players in the GSL.
I'm not particularly happy with the way they didn't seem to communicate with certain players who certainly deserve to be in the league.
Have Justin.tv sorted their problems streaming to the EU? (they might have, i have no idea, havn't watched anything on there for a while).
Complete lack of information on nasl.tv website, I don't care if it's only a temporary site, it should still have information like the start date and time.

So yeah, they're my reasons for not buying it atm.
Project Psycho
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom329 Posts
April 01 2011 21:44 GMT
#388
its $20 not $25 btw people.

I agree that we need some sort of proof of quality before they can say its worth the money, but $20 is a very reasonable price for what we are promised so far.
Better than IdrA
Profile Joined March 2011
Ukraine50 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 21:46:10
April 01 2011 21:45 GMT
#389
On April 02 2011 06:40 tezukazone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 06:24 Klonere wrote:
On April 02 2011 06:23 tezukazone wrote:
On April 02 2011 06:10 ShotoElite wrote:
On April 02 2011 06:08 tezukazone wrote:
Sorry but ...if you pay 150$ for NBA league pass, you get to watch a full season. You wouldn't pay the same amount of $150 for a NBA D-league pass, regardless if the season was twice as long. Sports and competitive games are more fun to watch when played at the highest levels.. and NASL is basically the minor leagues of starcraft2, so if they want people to pay there needs to be much better reasons justifying the equivalent price tag to GSL.

NASL is not the minor leagues of starcraft2.... your comparisons are waaaaay off lol



I don't understand what is off by my comparisons, maybe other people have their "favorite" players they personally follow and would like to watch, maybe making this league more attractive to them. But other than that, the best players wont be playing here. Which means this isn't the most prestigious league. Which means it is not the MAJOR LEAGUES. If I am wrong about something, feel free to correct me, but I am under the assumption that they are doing their best to restrict Koreans and "foreigners"(non Americans in this case) from this league. Which is going to drastically lower the skill level and honestly I watch starcraft2 to see the best of the best, maybe others feel differently.


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Your seriously telling me that this group of players are NOT the Major Leagues?


I'm not going to lie, I had not seen that list of players, but I am still skeptical of NASL. Sure that list is pretty decent, but half those players are still code-A or below... so yes, it is not quite Major Leagues. Unless by Major League, you mean like Major League soccer, where a few old super stars come to retire and relax. Put it this way, I did not pay for GSL until like the Code-S stuff started, I watched it till then but didn't think it was worth buying till the 4th or 5th season or so, where they had established a very professional service and high-quality matches with the most premier players. NASL has big shoes to fill if they want money from people like me, who probably are satisfied/only have time to watch one big tournament at a time. Like I said before, this is not a major league cast. There's like 3-4 players here I really want to watch play, the rest I could really care less(as proven by how bored I was watching some of these foreigners in GSL).


Code A or below LOLOLOL

You obviously don't watch the GSL.

Not only are most of the Korean Invites in Code S but all of them are... better than IdrA.
bmml
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom962 Posts
April 01 2011 21:45 GMT
#390
Would've prefered a rolling monthly 5 dollars then another 5 for the ro16 event but I guess this works. It all depends on how much production value theyve added since the horrors of Clash of the Titans however.
Wnatz
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway28 Posts
April 01 2011 21:45 GMT
#391
20$ is nothing, What the hell. I'd prob still buy it if it was 50$
beridoxy
Profile Joined August 2010
France54 Posts
April 01 2011 21:45 GMT
#392
On April 02 2011 06:28 KiNGxXx wrote:
There are lot of unknown things so I can't pay now:

-when is the start of the league
-at what time is the broadcast
-who is casting (they said they will have other casters too)
-how good are the casters Incontrol and Gretorp now (showmatch was...not so good)
-what can I see without a pass and when (replays, vods)
-how good is the production
-can I watch the HQ stream without lags

There is just a huge lack of information and I am not happy with the invites so I will think about it. If all turns well I will pay because then 25$ isn't that much for a big league!

So I hope they will give us more informations soon and not only a short twitter message and some statements in SotG or unofficial threads.

This.

Yeah, the website is still crappy and does not show the essential.
I was pretty dissapointed by the game between Idra and Jinro.

I might get it, but not discount to regret it after.
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
April 01 2011 21:46 GMT
#393
Im gonna pay. I have faith in the NASL and 20$ for 3 months is super fair price. even if it starts off terrible they have 3 months to make it better production (which I think they have been prepping and it will be good.) the players are also awesome and I wanna see sum good games.
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
April 01 2011 21:46 GMT
#394
I duuno yet. It really depends on the level of the commentators. If it's Gretorp and iNcontrol, i'll probably pass. No offense, but i really don't like their styles. (as casters ofc)
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Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
April 01 2011 21:47 GMT
#395
Is the stream free to watch and at a convenient time? Yes. So I will not be paying
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 21:52:13
April 01 2011 21:50 GMT
#396
At first I was like noooooo, no way, but then I saw that it was for 3 months. That's like 7$ a month which is nothing. So yes, I will be buying a pass, and consequently have no more time at all to do anything because I have to watch GSL and NASL every day .
Hell I even forgot I don't pay in dollars but in euros, that's 5 euro's a month which is even better!
oursblanc
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1450 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 21:50:57
April 01 2011 21:50 GMT
#397
I paid. Curious.
An oasis of horror in a desert of boredom!
riff
Profile Joined December 2010
United States113 Posts
April 01 2011 21:51 GMT
#398
I'm in wait-and-see mode like many others. If NASL has their act together, then sure I'll buy the pass. But I want to see the product first before I put any cash on the table.
There is no teacher but the enemy. No one but the enemy will tell you what the enemy is going to do. No one but the enemy will ever teach you how to destroy and conquer. Only the enemy shows you where you are weak. -Mazer Rackham
R3m3mb3rM3
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany954 Posts
April 01 2011 21:51 GMT
#399
"Our primary casters will be Geoff "iNcontroL" [...]"

Yea no offense but, i kinda wont pay for that
totally not feeling incontrols casting
sorry
ImHuko
Profile Joined December 2010
United States996 Posts
April 01 2011 21:52 GMT
#400
On April 02 2011 06:42 reprise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 06:35 ImHuko wrote:
On April 02 2011 06:31 udgnim wrote:
On April 02 2011 06:25 ImHuko wrote:
To add, GSL is asking 10$ and they actually have to run their own stream


1 NASL season (10+ weeks) is longer than 1 GSL season (~1 month)

Yes but if you added in the actual money spent producing the stream, it is far far far far less than GSL. The most expensive program I know for producing a stream is Wirecast and its like 300$ I think. Xsplit does close to the same thing as Wirecast and its free. (Wirecast makes it 100000x easier, but yea). They are using JTV, not their own stream so really the only thing they are spending on it is the internet connection, which you can easily make back by running ads on JTV (assuming they get the numbers TSL does)


So you don't think people should be compensated for their work? Gom is a large company who isn't only invested in eSports. NASL does one thing and one thing only.

They are asking for 8$ a month compared to the 10$ GomTV asks but they don't put in nearly as much money/effort as GomTV does. It is too expensive. I could run a 1080p stream with very good production for absolutely no cost to myself other than internet bill, like I said before. They would be better off doing it like TSL and giving it for free at first, and then maybe season 2 they add this or something. Asking people to pay 8$ right off the bit is friggan ridiculous (don't get me started on the whole "minimal commercial interruptions" thing.

GomTV didn't charge for anything when they first started out (you can still watch GomTV SC:BW tournament VODs)
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