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dmillz
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada270 Posts
April 01 2011 21:24 GMT
#341
I will probably buy the pass today. Very good deal for the amount of content you get. $20 is almost nothing for hours upon hours of content. Compare it to going to the theaters to watch a single 2 hour movie for the same price..
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
April 01 2011 21:24 GMT
#342
On April 02 2011 06:23 tezukazone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 06:10 ShotoElite wrote:
On April 02 2011 06:08 tezukazone wrote:
Sorry but ...if you pay 150$ for NBA league pass, you get to watch a full season. You wouldn't pay the same amount of $150 for a NBA D-league pass, regardless if the season was twice as long. Sports and competitive games are more fun to watch when played at the highest levels.. and NASL is basically the minor leagues of starcraft2, so if they want people to pay there needs to be much better reasons justifying the equivalent price tag to GSL.

NASL is not the minor leagues of starcraft2.... your comparisons are waaaaay off lol



I don't understand what is off by my comparisons, maybe other people have their "favorite" players they personally follow and would like to watch, maybe making this league more attractive to them. But other than that, the best players wont be playing here. Which means this isn't the most prestigious league. Which means it is not the MAJOR LEAGUES. If I am wrong about something, feel free to correct me, but I am under the assumption that they are doing their best to restrict Koreans and "foreigners"(non Americans in this case) from this league. Which is going to drastically lower the skill level and honestly I watch starcraft2 to see the best of the best, maybe others feel differently.


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Your seriously telling me that this group of players are NOT the Major Leagues?
Trentelshark
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada385 Posts
April 01 2011 21:24 GMT
#343
This may have been asked already so if it has my bad (I'm on my iPhone and going through all the pages is too much) but what options are offered other than 1080p? I ask because with the shitty bandwidth caps the ISPs put in place here without forking out a load i tend to stick to 480p at most to avoid blowing over my cap by an epic mile. Between GSL and TSL I'm cutting it close every month. Throw in NASL and I'll have no choice but to upgrade the service to the 125GB plan and that's $80 a month unless there's lower quality options .
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
April 01 2011 21:24 GMT
#344
Less than $7 a month to support western e-sports and get high quality VODs?

I'm down.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
April 01 2011 21:24 GMT
#345
I would buy a premium pass right now, but I don't have a credit card and they don't support iDeal or PayPal (yet).
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 21:27:07
April 01 2011 21:25 GMT
#346
On April 02 2011 06:15 PraetorianX wrote:
$25 is waaay too much. Even a GSL season pass doesn't cost that much. No chance I will pay it.

GSL cost exactly the same if you take up on this opportunity. GSL has two tickets per three months with an extra 5 bucks for the Team League. I don't know what kind of math they taught you in school, but for me this adds up to a grand total of $25 USD for a period of three months for an approximate of 230 something or more games whereas the NASL will provide more VODs in a better quality with players of very high skill levels with top notch commentary so really, you're paying the same for more content, just that in one you pay in instalments, the other is asking you for the money up front.

I'm only undecided as to when will they schedule their broadcast times, so if that information does not come soon, I might have to pass up on the offer :S
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 21:26:19
April 01 2011 21:25 GMT
#347
Jesus, I can't believe how whiny TL is about the NASL. How is $20 not a fair price? That's like a big pizza delivered to your house. Except instead of getting a 20" pizza you get 3 ENTIRE MONTHS OF STARCRAFT 2 CONTENT WITH THE BEST PLAYERS IN NORTH AMERICA, $400,000 IN PRIZES AND A HD STREAM WITH OVER 2,000,000 PIXELS. It's like the TL wet dream.
kaileah
Profile Joined March 2011
171 Posts
April 01 2011 21:25 GMT
#348
» 1080p live stream access
» 24/7 Video On Demand access to all content
(including weekly shows, analysis, highlights, and matches)
» Minimal commercial interruption

From a business standpoint, NASL broke a fundamental rule: don't compete with yourself. They already announced that their free stream will have a quality better than the GSL's high quality pay per view stream (so assuming 720pish?) so the incentive to pay is reduced by a lot. Along with that, the fact that both the pay per view and the free stream will have commercial interruptions is a negative as well. The only way to justify paying for less commercials is if the free stream is bombarded with 30 second commercials every minute - and in such case, most people would probably stop watching all together and just watch restreams or read live reports. So what people would be paying for is mainly access to the VoDs (analysis, weekly show, high lights of matches, etc seems basically like a pay per view version of State of the Game). Depends on how much discretionary income one has, but unless one says 'support e-sports!' (which is now becoming a money grab catch phrase very quickly), its hard to justify paying 20-25$ a season for VoDs of mostly mid level players.
ImHuko
Profile Joined December 2010
United States996 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 21:27:59
April 01 2011 21:25 GMT
#349
To add, GSL is asking 10$ and they actually have to run their own stream, they aren't using Justin.tv or another provider, so their prize pool might not be the same or whatever but they are spending probably triple or more on production than NASL. You can run a 1080p HQ stream on like a 100$ a month internet connection, and you can get all the production you want by using free programs/Xsplit etc. No way I am paying 25$ to watch something I could produce at home living with my parents.
MuTT
Profile Joined July 2010
United States398 Posts
April 01 2011 21:26 GMT
#350
this fucking owns the shit outta gomtv pass lol
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SnuggleZhenya
Profile Joined July 2010
596 Posts
April 01 2011 21:26 GMT
#351
I can understand people who want to see before they pay maybe, and such like that, since there are still some unanswered questions, but 25 dollars being too much for nightly content? The price tag is pretty reasonable unless you are so poor that you should probably be working instead of playing Starcraft in the first place. I mean, if thats the case then so be it and I don't begrudge people that literally can't afford it, but I get the impression that people are scoffing at the price tag out of some misplaced sense of entitlement.
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Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
April 01 2011 21:26 GMT
#352
No way I'm buying it
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 01 2011 21:26 GMT
#353
On April 02 2011 06:21 Eleaven wrote:
lol 25 dollar for 3 months is too much?

so strange, because when we bring up jobs on TL, it turns out everyone is making 250k+ year minimum and has 3 banging hot wives..

and now so much tightness over less than 10/month.

Wow lol


Best post ever haha

I won't be paying for season one because I'm broke as fuck, but will watch nightly and be happy to watch the commercials. Can't wait for this to start!
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Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 21:27:35
April 01 2011 21:27 GMT
#354
On April 02 2011 05:04 LoliKuma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 04:51 Meta wrote:
I've yet to buy a GSL pass, there's no chance in hell I'll buy an NASL pass. Hopefully there will be a free stream or pirated vods like there are for the GSL


Wow really? I seriously hope you're trolling cuz $20 for 3 months of entertainment is such a good deal it's not even funny. Lets just consider movies for example, that's $15 for 2hrs of entertainment, sometimes it's really bad. Or even the infamous WoW, that's about $15 per month and this is 3 months -_____-

And I hope re-streaming and posting links of pirated vods will be bannable so if everyone really want to help e-sports grow, we need to support it (I completely understand waiting a day or week before buying it though)


Edit: After reading more posts, I think people are just trolling all over the place and probably hoping for some serious response from Russ or Incontrol


Nope not trolling at all. I legitimately am not going to pay for this, or the GSL. But I'll watch it still, through the free stream. I don't want to have to pirate it, but if it comes down to it I will. Someday I'll have the money to spare, but I don't watch movies or play wow or watch TV. I have enough money for internet and food and heat, and not a penny more. It sucks that I can't pay to help support e-sports yet. Hopefully eventually I'll find a job, and then it'll be a different story.

And I agree, posting pirated vods on TL should be bannable to uphold the integrity of the site.
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MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
April 01 2011 21:27 GMT
#355
I agree with everyone saying that it's not a bad price. $25 for 3 months of content with a bunch of favorite western players... it's gonna be sick. GSL costs almost the same but you don't hear peopel complaining about that. (well some...)
Somnolence
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania127 Posts
April 01 2011 21:28 GMT
#356
On April 02 2011 06:26 SnuggleZhenya wrote:
I can understand people who want to see before they pay maybe, and such like that, since there are still some unanswered questions, but 25 dollars being too much for nightly content? The price tag is pretty reasonable unless you are so poor that you should probably be working instead of playing Starcraft in the first place. I mean, if thats the case then so be it and I don't begrudge people that literally can't afford it, but I get the impression that people are scoffing at the price tag out of some misplaced sense of entitlement.


Precisely. Demonstrated production values did not show anything different (actually worse) from other western tournaments like TSL3 which we get to watch for free.
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
April 01 2011 21:28 GMT
#357
Sadly i can not afford the premium deal but i will be watching the free stream. I wish there were free low quality + commercial vods and replays.
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Ryka
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom254 Posts
April 01 2011 21:28 GMT
#358
Can't watch high def streams on my connection anyway so no point paying.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
April 01 2011 21:28 GMT
#359
There are lot of unknown things so I can't pay now:

-when is the start of the league
-at what time is the broadcast
-who is casting (they said they will have other casters too)
-how good are the casters Incontrol and Gretorp now (showmatch was...not so good)
-what can I see without a pass and when (replays, vods)
-how good is the production
-can I watch the HQ stream without lags

There is just a huge lack of information and I am not happy with the invites so I will think about it. If all turns well I will pay because then 25$ isn't that much for a big league!

So I hope they will give us more informations soon and not only a short twitter message and some statements in SotG or unofficial threads.
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ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
April 01 2011 21:29 GMT
#360
In my opnion, when judging the amount of content, and the quality of the players, 25+commercials is not worth it for me, so I'm gonna say no
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