[NASL] All about Avilo - Page 3

On March 23 2011 03:36 avilo wrote:


Basically, you guys are being elitist as hell (obviously the entire thing is) but you didn't have to be a-holes on top of that.

On March 23 2011 03:36 Nokarot wrote:
If he only has 43 real votes, he only has 43 real votes. All this pointing fingers he said/she said doesn't really seem necessary. The simple fact of the matter is that the large majority of his votes were falsified and his legitimate votes weren't high enough to be on the standby list, which is simply a matter of fact, not something really up for debate.

The only thing I would say is that I'm curious as to why avilo is the center of investigations. I'm not saying that I suspect foulplay from any other contestants, but this is the internet, after all. Have you guys given equal investigation to anyone else? I doubt every single fraud vote was in avilos name.

On March 23 2011 03:36 avilo wrote:
I highly doubt I only had 43 votes, as I know easily i've had 500+ supporters from various advertising, email lists, and lots of other "getting myself out there."

It's obvious that the votes were trolled heavily, not "just" my listing on the site either, but other players as well.

I can post the other emails that you have sent to me as well, where you claim I hacked the system, cheated it, and other sorts of stupid non-sense where you mockingly make an analogy of stealing a 1 dollar candy bar and basically act like assholes.

Such as the first instance where it was obvious my listing had been trolled/hacked, and you guys removed my name from the site. I PM'd asking for reasoning expecting you guys to be up front and reasonable about it, that you would re-add me to the site and that the votes were possibly trolled.

Instead Xeris, you responded telling me you originally deleted my entry from NASL "on accident" because you happened to "misclick on my username with the 'delete button'" out of all of the usernames to "misclick" on.

I have no problem with not getting into your elitist NASL club because I don't know the right people and have no former BW grandiose background, even though I've shown more results in SC2 than some people have that probably did make it in. What I have a problem with is you guys accusing me of being a hacker/cheater, and being complete a-holes towards me multiple times, when all I wanted is to apply for NASL, possibly get in, and be involved in this.

I certainly had more votes than "43," but you guys are absolutely ridiculous in your lack of professionalism. Like I said, ideally I would have wanted to be in the first batch of 50 "ordained by the gods" progamers to get in the NASL, but I have no problem not being in it, but I do have a problem when you guys accuse me of hacking/cheating when I have no history of cheating anything in my past 10+ years of gaming.

Basically, you guys are being elitist as hell (obviously the entire thing is) but you didn't have to be a-holes on top of that.

On March 23 2011 03:41 avilo wrote:That part is fine, it's one of the most elitist things to get into the first 50, I did not expect to get in unless by miracle.

On March 23 2011 03:36 avilo wrote:
I highly doubt I only had 43 votes, as I know easily i've had 500+ supporters from various advertising, email lists, and lots of other "getting myself out there."

It's obvious that the votes were trolled heavily, not "just" my listing on the site either, but other players as well.

I can post the other emails that you have sent to me as well, where you claim I hacked the system, cheated it, and other sorts of stupid non-sense where you mockingly make an analogy of stealing a 1 dollar candy bar and basically act like assholes.

Such as the first instance where it was obvious my listing had been trolled/hacked, and you guys removed my name from the site. I PM'd asking for reasoning expecting you guys to be up front and reasonable about it, that you would re-add me to the site and that the votes were possibly trolled.

Instead Xeris, you responded telling me you originally deleted my entry from NASL "on accident" because you happened to "misclick on my username with the 'delete button'" out of all of the usernames to "misclick" on.

I have no problem with not getting into your elitist NASL club because I don't know the right people and have no former BW grandiose background, even though I've shown more results in SC2 than some people have that probably did make it in. What I have a problem with is you guys accusing me of being a hacker/cheater, and being complete a-holes towards me multiple times, when all I wanted is to apply for NASL, possibly get in, and be involved in this.

I certainly had more votes than "43," but you guys are absolutely ridiculous in your lack of professionalism. Like I said, ideally I would have wanted to be in the first batch of 50 "ordained by the gods" progamers to get in the NASL, but I have no problem not being in it, but I do have a problem when you guys accuse me of hacking/cheating when I have no history of cheating anything in my past 10+ years of gaming.

Basically, you guys are being elitist as hell (obviously the entire thing is) but you didn't have to be a-holes on top of that.

On March 23 2011 03:40 Termit wrote:
The funny thing is, where would the votes come from if not from himself? Okey if he would be some crazy superstar of a player or some famous streamer but the guy has like 10 viewers on his crappy stream on a daily basis... so yeah the legit votes he have right now is probably from his family and friends. xD

On March 23 2011 03:41 relyt wrote:

Jesus Christ man, do you ever stop bitching?

On March 23 2011 03:37 avilo wrote:


Thank you for having common sense of why I am upset. These awesome NASL people, apparently from what Xeris has emailed me and told me, I have been deemed a hacker/cheater by the NASL and was completely removed from consideration due to fucking trolls on the internet that are out of my control.

And when I am PMing/Emailing with no responses, no contact with the owners, you can see why I have a right to get upset.

Once again: we are not accusing him of cheating. There is NO WAY for us to know exactly who gave him 23,000 votes, but they were fraudulent votes.

This is the last thing we will say on the matter, and we believe that our decision was fair and correct.

On March 23 2011 03:40 antikk wrote:
Those PM's you sent Avilo really were straight up accusing him of submitting the fake votes. No amount of backtracking will get you out of that.

And as Kennigit pointed out, this whole voting system is a fraud anyway. So what difference does it really make? Even if he had 23,000 votes he would still only be on the standby list according to your reasoning....

On March 23 2011 03:36 Treadmill wrote:
Well, this is good to know, I suppose. It is good to clarify this, and the transparency is nice too. And this:
makes it sound like the players have already been chosen.

On March 23 2011 03:40 antikk wrote:
Those PM's you sent Avilo really were straight up accusing him of submitting the fake votes. No amount of backtracking will get you out of that.

And as Kennigit pointed out, this whole voting system is a fraud anyway. So what difference does it really make? Even if he had 23,000 votes he would still only be on the standby list according to your reasoning....