[NASL] All about Avilo - Page 12

On March 23 2011 04:43 avilo wrote:


I see the random internet hate bandwagon bashers are out in full force today.

On March 23 2011 04:44 RaFeStaR wrote:




That shouldn't matter at all. This isn't a fucking popularity contest, it's a tourney where WE, the fans, should get the best games possible.

On March 23 2011 04:45 Seam wrote:


But what is the best game every played if no one wants to watch it?

On March 23 2011 04:45 Seam wrote:


But what is the best game every played if no one wants to watch it?

On March 23 2011 04:07 Liquid`Tyler wrote:

I don't understand how anyone could think this is a good way to look at it at all.

It's a fact that the votes were rigged. No one is disputing it. The number might be in dispute, but that's not important. It's not in dispute that at least about 18,000 votes were rigged.

Is there any evidence that avilo is responsible for the rigged votes? Absolutely not.

That's all you've got is motive. But then there are alternate explanations, like this whole "let's spell Athene on the front page" thing and haters of avilo who just want to screw with him by giving him fraudulent votes (he has gathered plenty of haters just because of his passionate posts on teamliquid.net). And you've got avilo saying he didn't do it.

Now look up again at what I quoted at the start of this post. It doesn't make sense to say "it's avilo's word against uservoice's evidence that votes were rigged."

That's all you can say is "We've determined that votes were rigged. We've got an accurate vote count now. We'll work from there. We were unable to obtain any leads or evidence that might point us toward the culprit so unfortunately we won't be pursuing it or taking any actions against anyone."

In my opinion, Xeris/NASL should apologize to avilo and NASL absolutely should not penalize him in any way.

On March 23 2011 04:43 McKTenor13 wrote:
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Its not about getting into the NASL, it's about his name, and now it's completely trashed. If he wants to join a tournament in the future, even if he becomes 10x better, everyone will know him for this.

Avilo if you actually didn't do this, im sorry this shit happened to you. It's retarded.....and if you did, well fuck you. lol

On March 23 2011 04:47 RaFeStaR wrote:




So you'd rather watch incontrol lose a one sided game rather than someone else (avilo) play a solid game simply because avilo's jokes aren't as funny as incontrols? I love incontrol, but the elitism in this league is simply retarded.

On March 23 2011 04:43 avilo wrote:


I see the random internet hate bandwagon bashers are out in full force today.

On March 23 2011 04:36 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I think the matter is settled now. At least the two things I wanted to hear from Xeris, an apology and clarification that he's not being penalized in any way, have now happened.

On March 23 2011 04:25 avilo wrote:


You obviously did accuse me, and said that the owners decided to remove me from consideration of being in this tournament and/or the standby list. You told me this via email. And I continually have tried to contact you or the owners to tell you that I never have hacked or cheated these friggin polls, let alone done any of that in my past 10 years of gaming and so you guys started to just ignore me, and dust the issue under the rug. Thanks.

On March 23 2011 04:39 RaFeStaR wrote:
Every time xeris posts I dislike the league a little more. Avilo has a point when he says it's elitist, and to say the prize pool should make it that way is bullshit. I'm curious if incontrol will have to "earn" his way through online qualifiers. Afaik avilo > incontrol in terms of tourney placings (even if online).

On March 23 2011 04:47 RaFeStaR wrote:




So you'd rather watch incontrol lose a one sided game rather than someone else (avilo) play a solid game simply because avilo's jokes aren't as funny as incontrols? I love incontrol, but the elitism in this league is simply retarded.

On March 23 2011 04:44 BroOd wrote:
Avilo - You're complaining that they basically accused you of cheating or gaming the system based on pure speculation. Didn't you do that exact same thing in your "NASL: What's the deal?" blog, where you publicly accused the NASL organizers of having an "anti-avilo" agenda before you even spoke to anyone about the problem of your votes being removed?

You said in this thread you knew the votes were illegitimate, but you argued in that blog that they weren't and that:


It sucks they accused you of cheating with no real evidence, but the way you trudge around with this persecution complex while simultaneously doing the things you complain about makes it really hard to sympathize with you.

On March 23 2011 04:53 avilo wrote:


Hey, when i'm getting mocking PMs and such that they "misclicked my entry and deleted it -oops" stuff like that...even look at the title of this thread...they even have to randomly mock me with the title. What have I ever done to them personally? Nothing.

And yes, there is nothing wrong with me getting votes. Lots of people voted. We all know I didn't have 23,000, but I certainly had more than "43" but it doesn't matter, they can put it at whatever number they want, and in the end that doesn't even matter too.

I'm not trudging around with a persecution complex. These guys have continously mocked me via PM/email subtly, and even this thread title is a subtle mock which I guess is very professional of them. And apologies are real easy to come by when you need to save face.

On March 23 2011 04:50 SpaceJam wrote:
I think that it's funny that Avilo is trying so hard to get into the NASL and is denying all of these claims and acting offended even though (in my opinion) he still is the one who cheated to get himself all of the votes.

Who cares about Avilo enough to award him votes he doesn't deserve? I sincerely doubt that he doesn't have a single fan that is that passionate about him considering I've only heard about him from his own efforts to promote himself and when he's bmed players that play him on their streams.