EPTIt's only 10 bucks. There's the 20 bucks no-ad stream coming out but... who would want to watch the GSL with no VODs?
I'm still waiting for my 2011 Titty Sambo.
GSL Should restream EU/USA Timezone - Page 4
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Babaganoush
United States626 Posts
It's only 10 bucks. There's the 20 bucks no-ad stream coming out but... who would want to watch the GSL with no VODs? I'm still waiting for my 2011 Titty Sambo. | ||
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betaV1.25
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Jumbled
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Existential
Australia2107 Posts
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Spicy Pepper
United States632 Posts
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
Now, if what you're suggesting is a restream at convenient hours for those who buy the premium ticket, that I will get behind and support. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On February 23 2011 17:23 Spicy Pepper wrote: They're not a charity. There's still a perceived gap between GSL and NASL in skill level, so they shouldn't be overreacting to a new league with a bad business decision. They're still the best league and have the very best players. We don't know what NASL is yet. Making your product free after it's been put on air is most likely horrible. I'd bet a huge percentage of their business is from Westerners who watch these VODs during the time you're suggesting they broadcast free. Also they already put out 1 free game per day. UFC 72 would like to argue that with you. Note I bring up UFC because it is the same target demographic, and the thing that made UFC 72 such a disaster is it was only played at the live time which was 3pm EST, not 10PM EST so most NA American fans missed it due to having to do crazy stuff like work a normal job. Thus the UFC has never ever made that mistake again and it's all highly relevant to a company like GOM. | ||
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SpectralFremen
Australia386 Posts
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
On February 23 2011 17:23 Spicy Pepper wrote: They're not a charity. There's still a perceived gap between GSL and NASL in skill level, so they shouldn't be overreacting to a new league with a bad business decision. They're still the best league and have the very best players. We don't know what NASL is yet. Making your product free after it's been put on air is most likely horrible. I'd bet a huge percentage of their business is from Westerners who watch these VODs during the time you're suggesting they broadcast free. Also they already put out 1 free game per day. Obviously, we know that they aren't giving away anything for free minus the horrible SQ live. They could actually use sponsors and adverts during the restream to get some cash out of it. I'd bet that people could actually sit down with their non-SC2 friends and be able to show them a full restream if it was during prime-time in the states. Exposure + More advertisements + western companies buying time for adverts on the restream should easily come back to them via subscriptions. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On February 23 2011 17:32 SpectralFremen wrote: I have no idea how Vods dont fill this roll already? Oh wait, the free stream is free isnt it... Do people read OP's or just title's these days. Check out the OP and the responses please, it's not about that. Edit: Also, NEWSFLASH! Sponsors don't really care how many subscribers you have, companies like Intel (ie: GSL sponsor) only care how many people see their logo and how often they stay (ie: audience retention). | ||
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
Yes you guys, I made this thread so I can get "free vods" that anyone can get a hold of with 20 seconds n google. Gomtv already kind of made their case they want nothing to do with mainstream foreign SC when they went with pay for vods. No one here probably knows that prior to GSL it was all free, but whatever. Yeah guys making GSL pay per view is the greatest thing ever in terms of growing SC2 and growing GOMTV for a foreign audience. What a surprise when NASL and upcoming MLG slowly take over and out edge a pay to view league broadcasting only at 3 am Genius, why does teamliquid remain a free site instead of charging 10 dollars to view it per month? It's called relevance | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
On February 23 2011 17:32 SpectralFremen wrote: I have no idea how Vods dont fill this roll already? Oh wait, the free stream is free isnt it... Why post this junk? People who aren't able to stay up til 3 or 4 in the morning don't have this luxury of trying out of free stream. So they either have to bite the bullet and buy something for 10 bucks that they don't know if they will like, or not watch it at all and miss out on the casting archon that is Tastosis and not subscribe for VODs or the "HQ Restream" they could get with it. | ||
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
On February 23 2011 17:35 papaz wrote: EU Time is already perfect. I am at work and have the gomplayer in the background and watching GSL while working. Probably not something most Europeans can do. The only people that the time is really ideal for are those in the GMT+8 through to +12 timezones. | ||
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Char711
United States862 Posts
Taking that into consideration, NASL has made me say "why the hell would I want to pay for GSl now!? Especially if I didn't before!?" My decision to buy will likely always be "no," but if they caught me with some epicness several streams in a row then who knows. Overall, I say "yes," because it seems necessary to compete with NASL. I'm unsure of if it's the "good business decision" in the shortrun, but I think they have to show an effort like this if they want to stay out there in the West, so it will end up being the "good business decision" in the long term. | ||
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GeneralSnoop
United States142 Posts
I am still going to watch the GSL tonight, but considering I have 2 exams tomorrow it would be nice if i didn't have to ruin my future for the sake of the tournament  | ||
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
On February 23 2011 17:24 Dhalphir wrote: The free stream, mr OP, is just that. Free. You don't pay anything. You have no grounds for complaining about anything to do with it when you get it free. Now, if what you're suggesting is a restream at convenient hours for those who buy the premium ticket, that I will get behind and support. where was I complaining? Also holy crap your quote has nothing to do with the topic I simply point out that doing a re-broadcast at appropriate hours of their stream might be a good idea and posted a poll How is that complaining about a free stream? Also are you really ridiculous, SC2 is fucking NICHE, making it pay per view just re-affirms that. You know they didnt even plan a free stream. Also it's widely available on restreams and download in HQ around the internet. I don't see your point in the least, it had everything to do with widening their audience and nothing to do with my personal regards. Trust me I can watch any match from GSL I wan to at HQ. It's called "global starcraft league", and the only people that watch it are a niche of a niche. | ||
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Grettin
42384 Posts
On February 23 2011 17:38 Dhalphir wrote: Probably not something most Europeans can do. The only people that the time is really ideal for are those in the GMT+8 through to +12 timezones. I agree with the time already being pretty much perfect. Only problem is that GOM doesn't have any app for mobile viewers. Then it would be p.e.r.f.e.c.t. Though, i can understand why people disagree with the broadcasting times in Europe. Due work and school, most can't tune in. But i wouldn't watch the re-stream at prime time or after work. Most likely because i would have something else to watch. Also, NEWSFLASH! Sponsors don't really care how many subscribers you have, companies like Intel (ie: GSL sponsor) only care how many people see their logo and how often they stay (ie: audience retention). But how many sponsors would be happy to hear that they would need to sponsor more money because of multiple streams. | ||
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
Broadcasting something at 3 AM is genius, anyone that doesn't watch that live should obviously have to pay to wtach glorious vods of starcraft 2. Genius long term business plan, especially with rising competition. I just wish all my favorite TV shows broadcast only at 4 AM and charged to watch on Hulu. | ||
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
On February 23 2011 17:42 GeneralSnoop wrote: i think it would be a great idea for there to be a single restream. it is not like a Video On Demand because it is not On Demand, it is at a single other time. It would be more like when they show replays of the most recent sports games on local channels, which happens all the time (at least for the Red Wings and the Tigers). I am still going to watch the GSL tonight, but considering I have 2 exams tomorrow it would be nice if i didn't have to ruin my future for the sake of the tournament so in your situation the VODs would be perfect and all you'd get out of the restream is not having to pay. @OP: I agree with you that from a business perspective, a free restream may well be a good idea for GOM to increase their viewership. But people need to stop pretending on any sort of individual level that they want this for any other reason than its a free restream so they don't have to pay for VODs. There's no other benefit to an individual person from a free restream. | ||
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