This change will make it better for my ZvP build. I usually go 8pool and outright kill/wound the toss if they dont wall off. When they do they build a forge, block off and turtle till they wanna take their 3rd. By then I'll be on my 3bases. This time with these changes I'll have a gold base instead of a normal base if all goes well and voidrays dont jump up inside my ass :D

As you ZvT. I can't see this helping at all

But I will unblock it to give it a go. Maybe double expo to opposite side base to gold and also the gold base. Let the terran decide which one he wants to take out while I try my best to keep em from getting a 3rd XD

Debonair

United States146 Posts

January 21 2011 06:47 GMT

#103

On January 21 2011 14:16 Ziggitz wrote:
Oh, so the ledge is only close enough for the terran to get the exact distance away from my hatch that he wants to be so he can stim marines in and out of their covering fire to kill my hatch and I have zero room to place spine crawlers to protect it

Exactly my thoughts after I saw the screenshot saying tanks are (barely) out of range.

Lennon

United Kingdom2275 Posts

January 21 2011 06:47 GMT

#104

On January 21 2011 14:01 Bijan wrote:
Zerg could probably fast expand to this spot pretty safely.

Do you even play?

PaPoolee

Netherlands660 Posts

January 21 2011 06:48 GMT

#105

On January 21 2011 15:32 LoLAdriankat wrote:

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I'm talking about siege tanks positioned inside his main, not offensive siege tanks.

Siege tanks in his main wont do shit, if anything they'll kill his own scvs due to splash damage!

Sanguinarius

United States3427 Posts

January 21 2011 06:48 GMT

#106

Will be interesting to see how this plays out. I can see terrans just putting a PF there and being even harder to break.

universalwill

United States654 Posts

January 21 2011 06:48 GMT

#107

no amount of tweaking is going to fix this map.

Darrkon

Australia17 Posts

January 21 2011 06:49 GMT

#108

They're too busy counting their earnings to come up with something other than a half baked idea to fix this map.

Immolate

42 Posts

January 21 2011 06:54 GMT

#109

how embarassing

lichter

1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts

January 21 2011 06:54 GMT

#110

Wow that is a strange shape for the map, just plopping that gold expo over there. They could have probably changed it a bit more to make the gold a little less... in the way. Gonna have to play on it a few times before I can comment on it.

Seriously people should try playing on it before making any definitive judgments.

Marl

United States692 Posts

January 21 2011 06:54 GMT

#111

It's like putting a flower on a pile of crap. cute.

Wolf

Korea (South)3290 Posts

January 21 2011 06:54 GMT

#112

Edit: Someone already posted

Hollywise

France112 Posts

January 21 2011 06:55 GMT

#113

On January 21 2011 15:31 MrCon wrote:
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u can't go closer via ground but u can drop it behind the minerals a little below and get in siege range while still being on the cliff

this map is just even worse than before for zerg and favors terran in a way i couldn't even ever imagine, grats blizzard

^this is not imbalance whine. its a love song based on a true story happened in a fictional movie

smileyyy

Germany1816 Posts

January 21 2011 06:57 GMT

#114

how is this map on the EU already I cant find it o.q...

Edit: OK I hat to play a 1v1 frist... :o

KimJongChill

United States6429 Posts

January 21 2011 06:57 GMT

#115

On January 21 2011 15:47 Lennon wrote:

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Do you even play?

LMAO!

Reminiscence

Singapore34 Posts

January 21 2011 07:01 GMT

#116

Tanks been slightly out of range doesnt mean a thing imo
Groups of marine can stim in and out to hit the expo with tanks covering them very safely on the high ground, similar to the gold in blistering sands. In fact, i think, this gold for zergs is really easy to break as terrans can establish a really strong hold on the high ground with bunkers and turrets, tanks and just elevator marines to force a response

SiguR

Canada2039 Posts

January 21 2011 07:02 GMT

#117

What i'm curious about is how easy it will be for an army to go camp at the main base's ramp and completely block off any expansion that was built at the gold minerals. It seems like in order to defend it the zerg would have to have control over the center of the map anyway...

SheaR619

United States2399 Posts

January 21 2011 07:05 GMT

#118

terrible. More expansion for terran to break and push out and be able to defend easily. What make it better is that it is gold, which make it even better for terran who going bio. It make TvZ more imbalance on the map, since zerg will not be able to expand there with a freakin rock there and this does not help anything with the gold still being a terrible place to defend your expansion. I think the map need to be bigger, that the only way to fix this god for saken map.

RobDeBob

United States23 Posts

January 21 2011 07:05 GMT

#119

This map now reminds me of a condensed version of Delta Quadrant, where one can only draw close positions and the middle corridor has cliffs to benefit T/P every step of the way. Zerg rage impending... (I play Terran btw :p)

Mephiztopheles1

1124 Posts

January 21 2011 07:08 GMT

#120

I feel this is Blizzard's way of saying: We like TvT, deal with it... 'cause with these amazing changes, seems like they only want terran to progress in tournaments. Not that such thing isn't happening already, but they just wanna make sure.