EPTEdit: I do not have the problem with not moving up
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Darneck
Sweden1394 Posts
Edit: I do not have the problem with not moving up | ||
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NintendoStar
United States217 Posts
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Dental Floss
United States1015 Posts
However in SC2 you don't get to feel that satisfaction. I'm in diamond and I win 50% of my games. I work really hard and practice and then I am in diamond and I win 50% of my games. Then I work really hard and get even better and I'm in diamond and I win 50% of my games. It really kills me how there is no feeling of improvement when playing on the ladder. Blizzard is trying to fix this by adding more leagues but they should just show us MMR and not worry about the hurt feelings of people who are bad. | ||
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BrenttheGreat
United States150 Posts
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
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KillerDucky
United States498 Posts
On December 19 2010 17:30 Werk wrote:So going 50/50 i really never move up or down the ladder but play people that are ranked way higher than me. Werk's point gain/loss last 10 games: -10 +20 -11 -14 +24 +22 -8 +26 -13 -5 This is what you call not moving up? | ||
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Werk
United States294 Posts
On December 20 2010 01:18 KillerDucky wrote: Werk's point gain/loss last 10 games: -10 +20 -11 -14 +24 +22 -8 +26 -13 -5 This is what you call not moving up? lol a pool of 10 games isn't a good summary of whats going on.. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
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kYem
United Kingdom412 Posts
That just mean they improved and you not... But blizzard still thinks you on the same lvl due to the mmr, so sooner or later you be matched with the same lvl players. Note that points doesn't really say much about skill unless you are top diamond (around 3000 ). ( divisions/bonus pool/ etc... ) | ||
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optical630
United Kingdom768 Posts
so the result is a forced 50/50 because i dont get to play the harder opponents often enough... which sucks unless your casual | ||
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JBrown08
Canada306 Posts
On December 20 2010 06:18 Werk wrote: lol a pool of 10 games isn't a good summary of whats going on.. If you are actually winning 50% of your games like you state, you are by default moving up the ladder. Because you have a bonus pool, your points will be double for a win then a loss. If on the other hand you are not going 50/50 then you will not improve, and that is because you are losing more then you win. You will play people at your skill level, the only difference is that the players you are matched up against have used up their bonus pool. There are plenty of articles on this, but lets put it this way, a 2000pt player today was probably a 1000pt player last month when the top of the ladder was 1700-2000. | ||
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zekie
Canada380 Posts
-EDIT- i also dont mind playing the higher players because i'm improving as much as possible. i think we should all be happy that its just giving us good matches to improve with...i guess you dont look as good to a random person looking at your rank though | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On December 20 2010 06:18 Werk wrote: lol a pool of 10 games isn't a good summary of whats going on.. actually it is and KillerDucky is right...I just don't think you know what is going on my friend. There really is nothing out of the ordinary with your situation, this really is a terrible thread.. | ||
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Werk
United States294 Posts
On December 20 2010 06:50 MassHysteria wrote: actually it is and KillerDucky is right...I just don't think you know what is going on my friend. There really is nothing out of the ordinary with your situation, this really is a terrible thread.. it must not be a terrible thread if other people are posting on here having the same questions / problems, and if your going to say i don't know whats going on, please explain. that post gave the thread nothing. | ||
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Ganondorf
Italy600 Posts
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DonKey_
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I'm at 500 diamond with over 1000 bonus pool, regularly play 1800 diamonds and the matchmaker says it's an even match. Since I'm going about 50/50 I can't gain points very fast. I suppose presumably if I played hundreds of games in a short period I'd burn through my 1000 bonus pool and that would correct it, but I'm not going to do that, ha! | ||
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iSRideTheSkYY
Chile42 Posts
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Ganondorf
Italy600 Posts
On December 20 2010 07:13 Ketara wrote: When I actually do some laddering, I'm in the exact same situation. I'm at 500 diamond with over 1000 bonus pool, regularly play 1800 diamonds and the matchmaker says it's an even match. Since I'm going about 50/50 I can't gain points very fast. I suppose presumably if I played hundreds of games in a short period I'd burn through my 1000 bonus pool and that would correct it, but I'm not going to do that, ha! Just add your bonus pool to your rating and you get your normalized rating, which is pretty close to what your opponents have. I had the exact same problem, my pc periodically breaks due to power line issues (which are not corrected by ups+avr and a server-grade isolation transformer costs 1k$), so i can't play starcraft at all for 1-2 weeks when the pc is dead, then i slowly burn through my pool and get more even matches, or even players with much lower ratings but a high bonus pool. | ||
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kYem
United Kingdom412 Posts
On December 19 2010 19:37 infinity21 wrote: The problem with bonus pool is that I only get 11 + 11 points for beating a guy with 1100 rating higher than me (1800 vs 2900). I think Blizz really needs to implement a system to decrease MMR if a person doesn't play for a significant amount of time. Being away for 2+ months DOES deteriorate a person's skill and coming back after a long time to play, only to get crushed 10-20 games in a row before you start winning is not the best way to keep players who want to come back. However if you are top player that doesn't matter that much. Plus there are people who only play custom games, so in reality they are active as other players however they seems like inactive on the ladder. Still a good idea and should be implemented ( very slow decay ) ------- edit ------ Overall i don't get it, what is the real problem here. From what i see people complaining that they cant win all of their games because they decided to cheat a system and wait for they bonus pool to go up so huge that later they will sky rock to the top after they start playing. If you do want to play and be on top of the ladder play more, as inactive players want to be on top of the ladder seams somewhat bad, compared to people who dedicate most of their time, it's just not fair. | ||
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