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I wondering if people are having the same problem as I am. I am for the time being a 1.1k diamond player, but play people that are 2k in diamond pretty much every game. I feel as though Ive really improved as a player in the last couple of weeks and the ladder seems to be matching me up with very strong opponents.
+ Show Spoiler + Werk.136 61st in Valerian Kappa 1,161
I go about 50/50 as most people do, but I check the profile for people I play after every game and they're always a thousand points ahead of me, and the match is considered even. So going 50/50 i really never move up or down the ladder but play people that are ranked way higher than me. Anyone else having this problem? It sucks knowing you should be ranked higher and telling your friends your a measly 1k diamond...sad panda... anyways, be nice to me TL peeps
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hmm not sure if there's an error with ur bnet, even when im on 10 game winning streaks or w/e i play at best 300-400 points ahead of me
also, your rating honestly means nothing since they is quite a few imperfections with the bnet laddering system, so dont fret too much about being 1k as appose to 2k
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Correct me if I'm wrong but you should get more points for beating higher ranked opponents as they should be "favored"?? I believe that is typically based on MMR though, so I suppose there is some variation. However if you go truly do go 50/50, your rank will probably steadily increase. As when opponents are favored and you win you will garner more points as opposed to those you will lose for a loss...
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Yea i agree they totally should be favored but ive played like 20 games in the last few days where they're like 1900 points and its an even match its very bizzare
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On December 19 2010 17:34 TheSCII wrote:
hmm not sure if there's an error with ur bnet, even when im on 10 game winning streaks or w/e i play at best 300-400 points ahead of me
also, your rating honestly means nothing since they is quite a few imperfections with the bnet laddering system, so dont fret too much about being 1k as appose to 2k
I don't have that much time playing and I have only like 120 games and about that 1k but I don't remember the last time I played an opponent who was under 2k and I have even played over 2.5k diamonds.
I don't know how the system works but it's definately not the 300-400 for me.
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What's your bonus points like? As a 1k Diamond you should have a lot and going 50/50 should mean you're moving up quite quickly. Also how many games have you played? Some people feel that they aren't moving quickly when they've only played around 200-300 games.
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On December 19 2010 17:30 Werk wrote:I wondering if people are having the same problem as I am. I am for the time being a 1.1k diamond player, but play people that are 2k in diamond pretty much every game. I feel as though Ive really improved as a player in the last couple of weeks and the ladder seems to be matching me up with very strong opponents. + Show Spoiler + Werk.136 61st in Valerian Kappa 1,161 I go about 50/50 as most people do, but I check the profile for people I play after every game and they're always a thousand points ahead of me, and the match is considered even. So going 50/50 i really never move up or down the ladder but play people that are ranked way higher than me. Anyone else having this problem? It sucks knowing you should be ranked higher and telling your friends your a measly 1k diamond...sad panda... anyways, be nice to me TL peeps
I'm in a similar situation. I'm 850~ points, and go 50/50 with 1.8-2k point diamonds. I'm slowly inching my way up a few points at a time. When I calculate it I mostly get only a couple more points from the win/loss ratio. As I win 20 points, and lose like 15 points so it is so slow to gain up to the points of the guys I'm playing against. Some nights I'll go 10-10 and end up with like 20 extra points and it is frustrating. I don't want to mas games just to get to 2k points that I seem to be at.
Seems the system is really strange about this.
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lol this is why i said TL peeps be nice....as i posted above the people i am playing are not favored...therefore a 50/50 means staying in the same spot...and thanks to the guys that posted above, i will admit i havent played a tons of 1v1s only about 200 so ill play more n see if anything changes..im a gamer with a life wrapped in instant gratification so im a lil impatient WANT POINTS NOW BLARRGGG XD i understand...
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After months of inactivity, I recently logged back online. I was a 1.3k before I quit, and was being matched up against 2.4k's in my ladder matches.
I'm much, MUCH worse now, and I lost both of the games I played.
And then I quit again. So yeah, fewer than ten games in the past six months.
Sigh.
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On December 19 2010 17:45 Stiver wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2010 17:30 Werk wrote:I wondering if people are having the same problem as I am. I am for the time being a 1.1k diamond player, but play people that are 2k in diamond pretty much every game. I feel as though Ive really improved as a player in the last couple of weeks and the ladder seems to be matching me up with very strong opponents. + Show Spoiler + Werk.136 61st in Valerian Kappa 1,161 I go about 50/50 as most people do, but I check the profile for people I play after every game and they're always a thousand points ahead of me, and the match is considered even. So going 50/50 i really never move up or down the ladder but play people that are ranked way higher than me. Anyone else having this problem? It sucks knowing you should be ranked higher and telling your friends your a measly 1k diamond...sad panda... anyways, be nice to me TL peeps I'm in a similar situation. I'm 850~ points, and go 50/50 with 1.8-2k point diamonds. I'm slowly inching my way up a few points at a time. When I calculate it I mostly get only a couple more points from the win/loss ratio. As I win 20 points, and lose like 15 points so it is so slow to gain up to the points of the guys I'm playing against. Some nights I'll go 10-10 and end up with like 20 extra points and it is frustrating. I don't want to mas games just to get to 2k points that I seem to be at. Seems the system is really strange about this.
The more games you play the closer you are to your true MMR or rating, so it just probably means you are right where you should be. In order to get matched up against better people and therefore be able to gain more points from a victory then you have to improve your game enough that the system realizes the people you are playing with are too easy for you. So the point is improve your play and you will move up, if not then that is probably where you belong for now.
On December 19 2010 17:47 Werk wrote:lol this is why i said TL peeps be nice....as i posted above the people i am playing are not favored...therefore a 50/50 means staying in the same spot...and thanks to the guys that posted above, i will admit i havent played a tons of 1v1s only about 200 so ill play more n see if anything changes..im a gamer with a life wrapped in instant gratification so im a lil impatient WANT POINTS NOW BLARRGGG XD i understand...
lol i was being nice. I gave you three threads full of the most valuable information you can find on this subject from people who have spent hours trying to figure it out. If you can't find what you are looking for from those pages I wouldn't know what to say. You have to understand the way it works though because honestly I don't see anything out of the ordinary with your situation.
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I am 1k platinum and I have been facing 1900 and 2100 diamonds.. T_T
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More than likely you beat a few people that were ranked higher than you, so they consider you to be a higher ranked player. When i first got into diamond i noticed that it would put me up against gold players at times. Slowly the gold players went away and it was just platinum and diamond players i would go against. Now I mostly just play 1800-2100 diamond players, with a 2000+ platinum once in a while. So just keep playing, and you will keep improving your game. You will just have to try harder and harder every game.
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same here i sit at 1400 and i get matched with ppl at 2000+ 90% of the time. Most of the time bnet says we are even matched!
and i recently switched to terran so i dont really get it
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Matchups are based on MMR not points.
I am 1600 rated diamond but i match up vs 2000-2300 mostly.
You clearly don't understand how the ladder system works. Basically if your mmr is damn high u will match people with the same mmr until u lose a lot of pnts that yr mmr goes down.
This also means u can play people with less points than u with high mmr and also those on the threshold of promotion (i.e the plat gold peeps)
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i hardly ever play (~400 diamond), but when i do, i get matched up against 1700+ diamond without fail. it's certainly a result of small sample size; comical nonetheless, and it really kills my desire to play
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On December 19 2010 17:55 AT_Tack wrote:
same here i sit at 1400 and i get matched with ppl at 2000+ 90% of the time. Most of the time bnet says we are even matched!
and i recently switched to terran so i dont really get it
Bonus pool brother, have you used it all up? If you have you must have recently jumped considerably in skill which is less likely but possible.
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maybe ur not ready for high diamond
keep practicing unless and climb slowly
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I do feel like this is one of the reasons for the ladder reset, if you played sorta infrequently it can be hard for you to rank up, even if you win.
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