EPTStuck in low diamond? - Page 2
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Werk
United States294 Posts
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stolensheep
United Kingdom306 Posts
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kaztah
Norway1221 Posts
If it's all about bragging rights, just say that you're good enough to beat 2100, but just so slack to bother grind the points all the way up there. Then they can all swoon by your natural gaming skills or something. | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
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FataLe
New Zealand4514 Posts
On December 19 2010 18:05 Werk wrote: Its great that the ladder thinks im hot shit, but id like to play my way up there = / i went from plat right into 2k diamond. I wanna play people that are ranked the same as me so i can get points to be matched with people my rank...if that makes sense... BTW thanks for everything u guys are posting, working on getting that bonus pool down right now, have this up on 1 monitor and SC on the other If you are going 50/50, you're are definitely climbing. With your bonus pool it's just about using it up which means you must play it off. If the ladder matched you with people your own points you would surely enjoy a much higher success rate than 50/50 which isn't really the point of ladder. I sure as hell don't want to be playing a person who is at a 3k level but is only 2k on at the moment. It's just not fair. | ||
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Werk
United States294 Posts
On December 19 2010 18:09 kaztah wrote: Lots of people have it like this. I've averaged played people 1200 rating above me ever since I started 1on1, and it's only because you don't play enough. The bonus pool system creates pretty big inflation and you need to play to keep up, or else you end up just far behind. If you're actually going 50/50, then you're right that you're stuck, you're just stuck 1k points higher up then you thought. If it's all about bragging rights, just say that you're good enough to beat 2100, but just so slack to bother grind the points all the way up there. Then they can all swoon by your natural gaming skills or something. haha awesome reply thanks im awesome at this game but i dont play enough to be super awsome i like it...well its a werk i progress need practice partners XO i didn't think that the ladder took in the bonus pool as a way of working you way up the ladder. it seems weird to me that they would group me up with high players expecting that that bonus pool will be what brings my score up to their level | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4514 Posts
On December 19 2010 18:12 Werk wrote: haha awesome reply thanks im awesome at this game but i dont play enough to be super awsome i like it...well its a werk i progress need practice partners XO i didn't think that the ladder took in the bonus pool as a way of working you way up the ladder. it seems weird to me that they would group me up with high players expecting that that bonus pool will be what brings my score up to their level Nope that's not how it works either. Simply put you are a 2k Diamond player in skill who has played 200 games or so. Another person for example can be 1.5k Diamond player in skill who has played about the same and has the same Bonus pool. Bonus pool can't just be added to your amount at the moment, that's not how it works. Bonus pool is to help people who can't play as much catch-up to people who can without being too far behind. | ||
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
I have the same issue (not really an issue though) Im1.3k, have about 0.7k and I am being matched against 2k diamonds so it is really quite simple. play a few hundred games while keeping your 50:50 ration and youll get there. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4514 Posts
On December 19 2010 18:19 Jakalo wrote: The way I see it you basically have to add your bonus pool to your current point to get average ''real'' points you should have. Due to bonus pool sytstem these points are ''free'' as long as you play enough games. So you are 1.1k + 0.9k = around 2k, which is what you are matched against. I have the same issue (not really an issue though) Im1.3k, have about 0.7k and I am being matched against 2k diamonds so it is really quite simple. play a few hundred games while keeping your 50:50 ration and youll get there. Read what is said above. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On December 19 2010 18:05 Werk wrote: Its great that the ladder thinks im hot shit, but id like to play my way up there = / i went from plat right into 2k diamond. I wanna play people that are ranked the same as me so i can get points to be matched with people my rank...if that makes sense... BTW thanks for everything u guys are posting, working on getting that bonus pool down right now, have this up on 1 monitor and SC on the other There is a flaw in your concept of what "people in your rank" are. Seems like you are thinking points equal your rating and therefore your opponents and that is not the case at all. Matchups aren't based on your points so you are playing people in "your rank" if you are winning about 50/50. I would leave one monitor on this screen and put the other monitor on the more informative threads on this subject to really figure it out, if that's what you want  You just don't understand the system which is not necessarily complicated, but does require a little bit of reading/research by your part. | ||
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Triky
Peru99 Posts
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imyzhang
Canada809 Posts
On December 19 2010 18:10 FataLe wrote: If you are going 50/50, you're are definitely climbing. With your bonus pool it's just about using it up which means you must play it off. If the ladder matched you with people your own points you would surely enjoy a much higher success rate than 50/50 which isn't really the point of ladder. I sure as hell don't want to be playing a person who is at a 3k level but is only 2k on at the moment. It's just not fair. see it as practice or a chance to measure where your skills are in relativity to their's ;D. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4514 Posts
On December 19 2010 18:27 Triky wrote: Weird cuz if you fight 2k people u should get like 20 points + your bonus pool ... you should be 2k already You realize what not playing much is right? | ||
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
You just wrote ''thats not how it works'', mind to elaborate? | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4514 Posts
On December 19 2010 18:28 imyzhang wrote: same thing happens to me. That's one of the reasons why i never went back to laddering. if you want this to finally equalize itself, you will have to catch up in the amount of games played. you will probably eventually reach 2k in points and realize you were there to begin with. I disagree, you don't catch up in games played, but you do have to play a lot to use it up. That is only true if you don't improve during that play period which is unlikely. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4514 Posts
On December 19 2010 18:28 imyzhang wrote: same thing happens to me. That's one of the reasons why i never went back to laddering. if you want this to finally equalize itself, you will have to catch up in the amount of games played. you will probably eventually reach 2k in points and realize you were there to begin with. see it as practice or a chance to measure where your skills are in relativity to their's ;D. But if everyones ladder experience was like that, for example all leagues were one and it was just a mush of players being matched with everyone the game would be quite stupid. A new player buys the game fires it up, plays campaign is ready for online play and gets crushed by someone who is 2k diamond, fine, next game, crushed, crushed, crushed. It's not good overall to be facing people who are much better than you, yes you caN see how they're better, how you are worse but that does not suddenly mean you are now much better. Infact it's counter-intuitive as your mechanics aren't even as good as theirs yet to even consider doing thing their way which can only be improved either playing a lot (you're not going to want to if you are experiencing a 25/75 or so winrate) or playing people your own level. | ||
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imyzhang
Canada809 Posts
On December 19 2010 18:35 FataLe wrote: But if everyones ladder experience was like that, for example all leagues were one and it was just a mush of players being matched with everyone the game would be quite stupid. A new player buys the game fires it up, plays campaign is ready for online play and gets crushed by someone who is 2k diamond, fine, next game, crushed, crushed, crushed. It's not good overall to be facing people who are much better than you, yes you caN see how they're better, how you are worse but that does not suddenly mean you are now much better. Infact it's counter-intuitive as your mechanics aren't even as good as theirs yet to even consider doing thing their way which can only be improved either playing a lot (you're not going to want to if you are experiencing a 25/75 or so winrate) or playing people your own level. whoa calm down, i winked, it was just a joke lol. obviously most new players wouldnt wanna play someone who's better than them over and over again ;o | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4514 Posts
On December 19 2010 18:39 imyzhang wrote: whoa calm down, i winked, it was just a joke lol. obviously most new players wouldnt wanna play someone who's better than them over and over again ;o Good, and no I'm far too angry. | ||
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pedduck
Thailand468 Posts
That is what happen to me. I have a little bit lower than 50% win but my point always go up a little bit. | ||
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Werk
United States294 Posts
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