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It seems like Korea, Canada, Ukraine, Sweden, and Germany are out in front right now if you look at countries that have produced multiple elite players, especially relative to their population.
The US has a lot of good players, but I feel like other than, Idra, they aren't considered top players. Also, the US is the most populous country on the scene BY FAR, so I'd expect even more from there.
I may be wrong on any or all of this, btw; I'm just basing it off some quick research and my memory.
Are these countries culturally more into games or RTS or StarCraft than others? Am I just imagining that those countries have a higher number of the top players right now?
I'd expect the US, France, Russia, the UK, Italy, Japan, Australia, China (though I don't know what rules there are in China around these games), Brazil, Spain, etc. to be putting equal numbers of people into the conversation for "best SC2 player."
Sweden is especially surprising just based on the population difference between them and these other countries. Why Sweden and not Austria, Switzerland, or Israel?
If I'm not wrong, what is it about those countries that have them producing so many good players per capita right now?
EDIT: Obviously, Korea is a special case, and I understand that one.
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haha, someone is apparently biased against Americans..way to show it so blatantly.
6 of the top 10 on ladder right now are from US. all with win % that are just as good.
regardless i dont think it has anything to do with your country of origin. thats ignorant as shit to believe.
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On August 26 2010 00:50 PhiliBiRD wrote:
haha, someone is apparently extremely biased against Americans..way to show it so blatantly.
I might be biased against Americans in SC2. I said I might be wrong in my perceptions of this stuff.
I am definitely not biased against Americans in general though. You couldn't be more wrong.
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Part of it is that it's easier in some of those countries to spend all your time gaming.
I've been told by my Swedish and German friends before that some people in said countries only work every other year, live off of welfare programs on the off-years, and spend that time playing WoW and other games.
TLO quit college in order to play Starcraft. From an Americans perspective, that seems crazy as hell to do, especially before you get some sort of pro contract. In order to make a living off of starcraft you'd have to be winning a major tournament every month here, and even that might only barely pay the bills.
But in Germany I think it's possible to actually do that.
Don't want to turn this into a political discussion btw, just sayin'
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Not the first game Sweden is in top of.
Just look at who dominated most of the CS1.5/1.6 scene.
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Canadians are obviously genetically superior to other countries.
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On August 26 2010 00:52 Ketara wrote:
Part of it is that it's easier in some of those countries to spend all your time gaming.
I've been told by my Swedish and German friends before that some people in said countries only work every other year, live off of welfare programs on the off-years, and spend that time playing WoW and other games.
TLO quit college in order to play Starcraft. From an Americans perspective, that seems crazy as hell to do, especially before you get some sort of pro contract. In order to make a living off of starcraft you'd have to be winning a major tournament every month here, and even that might only barely pay the bills.
But in Germany I think it's possible to actually do that.
Don't want to turn this into a political discussion btw, just sayin'
Interesting. That makes sense that differences in social programs and social norms would play a big role.
Anyone who can verify or add to this or who can add insight for other countries?
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Some countries are more into gaming i assume..
and to be honest, asians are most probably just smarter than other races. Seems that way to me anyway.
edit: gonna add to this.
I think it's also based around what you're growing up and seeing, and aspiring to be.
For example, all english boys want to grow up to be footballers, and for a small country, a lot of the football scene has english players.
I'm sure the same works for america, with american football and baseball.
And ofcourse korea, boys grow up and see professional gamers being stars and earning lots of money, it gives a much higher percentage chance of the truely talented becoming a starcraft player.
And i assume, that in germany and sweden, many many young boys are into gaming, that gives a higher percentage chance of a talented person becoming a gamer..
i've rambled on a bit, but you get my point hopefully 
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On August 26 2010 00:50 PhiliBiRD wrote:
haha, someone is apparently biased against Americans..way to show it so blatantly.
6 of the top 10 on ladder right now are from US. all with win % that are just as good.
regardless i dont think it has anything to do with your country of origin. thats ignorant as shit to believe.
Actually what the OP said is true for the most part. Though he's incorrect to assume that population size is what matters. It doesn't matter how many people live in the country, but rather the number of gamers.
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On August 26 2010 00:54 infinity21 wrote:
Canadians are obviously genetically superior to other countries.
Canada is good because it's hardwired into the language.
"One, eh?, two, eh?, three, eh?..."
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On August 26 2010 00:56 retro-noob wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 00:54 infinity21 wrote:
Canadians are obviously genetically superior to other countries. Canada is good because it's hardwired into the language. "One, eh?, two, eh?, three, eh?..."
Hahaha That's a good one. That got me to chuckle
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On August 26 2010 00:53 Gaxton wrote:
Not the first game Sweden is in top of.
Just look at who dominated most of the CS1.5/1.6 scene.
norwegian dude!
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I think social stigma matters quite a bit too. America still thinks E-sports is a joke.
If you watched some of those IEM streams, it was a pretty big deal. They had a crowd. They even had very uncomfortable eye-candy girls there, who did a great job of making Morrow look like he'd never been on a date before!
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well its true, i mean if my graphics card didnt crap out on me yesterday, i would have still been playing blah blah, anywho im glad it died, cus ill just do regular lifestyle again instead of playing 12 hours a day like i was. Yes you would see my name on top within months, but not anymore thankfully. Its like this: once i get into starcraft, theres no leaving it, only loss of internet has ever caused me to go inactive after reaching c- on scbw. Then i would come back as D+. Here i was playing on avg 30 games per day for about 3 days then sc2 killed my card. And i just decided this lifestyle too. O well back to normalcy again. XD
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On August 26 2010 00:56 Ocedic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 00:50 PhiliBiRD wrote:
haha, someone is apparently biased against Americans..way to show it so blatantly.
6 of the top 10 on ladder right now are from US. all with win % that are just as good.
regardless i dont think it has anything to do with your country of origin. thats ignorant as shit to believe. Actually what the OP said is true for the most part. Though he's incorrect to assume that population size is what matters. It doesn't matter how many people live in the country, but rather the number of gamers.
Yeah, it's number of gamers, not population. The US definitely has a large population of gamers, though.
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SC2 hasn't been out one month. Too early for any of this to matter. Remake this thread after WCG 2011.
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sweden because of their internet connection back then.
germany because germans are always good at any sport.
korea for the obvious reason
Ukrainian have some top top players but not a lot of good players.
Canada no idea why, maybe because they were french at first 8)
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They even had very uncomfortable eye-candy girls there, who did a great job of making Morrow look like he'd never been on a date before!
Yes, that was all an illusion, and not at all the truth.
E-Sports is a joke in Canada too. I really have no idea why there are so many good Canadian players, but the ratio is definitely higher in Canada than in the US.
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On August 26 2010 00:56 retro-noob wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 00:54 infinity21 wrote:
Canadians are obviously genetically superior to other countries. Canada is good because it's hardwired into the language. "One, eh?, two, eh?, three, eh?..."
LOL!
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What are you talking about, the US has plenty of "top" players. Probably more so than Canada.
I would say
Korea > Sweden > US > Canada > Germany
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