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On August 26 2010 01:07 Ketara wrote:
The internet connections in Sweden are SO much better than in the US.
I remember the last time I was in Sweden visiting friends, we were downloading movies in HD in like 10 minutes. It made me jealous.
I wouldn't say Sweden and Germany are more ahead technologically though. Maybe they have a more technology-sensitive culture, but my friends in Sweden were still all using American made computers for their fancy internet connections.
Korea also has good Internet infrastructure; I wouldn't be surprised if Germany did too. Perhaps if American communications companies weren't as greedy we would have top of the line Internet as well.
Is there any proof of this? Don't try and inform unless you have actual evidence to back it up.
If something is offensive, it certainly does not make it false.
Likewise, is there any proof you have that Asians are genetically smarter? If something is offensive, it certainly does not make it true.
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btw talkiong about welfare is retarded. Like everyone everywere all people want a work and do want to feel like they are worth anything to the society. Just becaous we and other countries in europe have better welfare programs WHEN we do find ourself without a job doesnt mean thoes people don't feel like getting a new job and do right for themself.
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I think that here in the U.S. one of our issues in dominating any single game is our lack of attention span as a culture. I know many guys (and a few girls) that would call themselves "hardcore gamers". But, other than WoW, if you ask them what they've played over the last year, they'll probably list 6 or more games. The idea of focusing on one game and trying to become the best you can at that one is fairly rare.
It seems like most of the U.S. gamers I know are basically playing their current game for something to do until the Next Big Thing comes out.
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On August 26 2010 01:06 iD.NicKy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 01:02 retro-noob wrote:On August 26 2010 01:01 iD.NicKy wrote:
sweden because of their internet connection back then.
germany because germans are always good at any sport.
korea for the obvious reason
Ukrainian have some top top players but not a lot of good players.
Canada no idea why, maybe because they were french at first 8) What's it like in France, Spain, and the UK? France, Spain, Uk has a lot of good players but only few top players let's say demuslim/dapollo for UK, Lucifron for spain, sarens/moman for france
How can you call dapollo good when he's literally played in 0 tournaments? Just because he lives in Korea and gets interviewed by Artosis doesn't make him good. Also MoMaN isn't good , just because he bashes on newb French players and has a bunch of random french-only events added to his GG.net acc to get to 1100 points doesn't make him good. Check out his match list and see how many other European players he beats (basically 0).
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I think Starcraft is the best country at crafting stars.
EVERYONE LOVE EACH OTHER! All regions are representing surprisingly well, so just be happy that we have such a diverse community.
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On August 26 2010 01:01 iD.NicKy wrote:
sweden because of their internet connection back then.
back then? i still have 100Mb/s upload and download
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On August 26 2010 01:31 Zevah wrote:
It's not about population.. it's about Culture.
Do you see any South American in the top? no! they play soccer!
What Zevah said about culture. I get disgruntled when people say I am smart because I am Asian, as if my race had anything to do with it. It's how dedicated people are to the game, and how much you invest into it. Any country will have people who are extraordinary at Starcraft II. Some people will stand out more then others though.
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On August 26 2010 01:31 Full wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 01:02 ckw wrote:On August 26 2010 00:56 Full wrote:
Some countries are more into gaming i assume..
and to be honest, asians are most probably just smarter than other races. Seems that way to me anyway.
So so wrong and kind of offending to me that you say this. They aren't "smarter", their culture is to excel in everything they do and the same goes for a lot of Europe like Germany. Is there any proof of this? Don't try and inform unless you have actual evidence to back it up. If something is offensive, it certainly does not make it false. I believe that many asians are genetically smarter than other races, or atleast find it easier to learn. but i'm not trying to inform you, im merely giving my opinion.
It's been proven that they aren't genetically smarter. It's their culture that drives them to excel in what they do. I don't have links to put off the top of my head, but it's been in plenty of books on Psychology about how culture affects people.
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On August 26 2010 01:24 SayTT wrote:
I think its the competative mindset we have in sweden, It's the same in other "real" sports as well, sweden is very good in comparison to how many ppl live here. Yea and it was the same inte both bw and wc3. Some of you might remember the names of; saft, willet, trek, daaman, kenka etc...
I call bs on this as a fellow swede. We are the pinnacle of "not-competitive mindset". We even have something called "jantelagen" which is basically a name for the fact that unless you're average in sweden we don't like you (goes for both sub-par and excelling people). We do however have a lot of great gamers which has I would attribute more to our connectivity and gamer-culture.
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On August 26 2010 01:33 Jonray wrote:
Next Big Thing comes out.
thats just the average noob gamer.
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On August 26 2010 01:36 Alou wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 01:31 Full wrote:On August 26 2010 01:02 ckw wrote:On August 26 2010 00:56 Full wrote:
Some countries are more into gaming i assume..
and to be honest, asians are most probably just smarter than other races. Seems that way to me anyway.
So so wrong and kind of offending to me that you say this. They aren't "smarter", their culture is to excel in everything they do and the same goes for a lot of Europe like Germany. Is there any proof of this? Don't try and inform unless you have actual evidence to back it up. If something is offensive, it certainly does not make it false. I believe that many asians are genetically smarter than other races, or atleast find it easier to learn. but i'm not trying to inform you, im merely giving my opinion. It's been proven that they aren't genetically smarter. It's their culture that drives them to excel in what they do. I don't have links to put off the top of my head, but it's been in plenty of books on Psychology about how culture affects people.
Okay 
But i would like links if anyone can provide it.
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On August 26 2010 01:31 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 00:48 retro-noob wrote:
It seems like Korea, Canada, Ukraine, Sweden, and Germany are out in front right now if you look at countries that have produced multiple elite players, especially relative to their population.
The US has a lot of good players, but I feel like other than, Idra, they aren't considered top players. Also, the US is the most populous country on the scene BY FAR, so I'd expect even more from there.
I may be wrong on any or all of this, btw; I'm just basing it off some quick research and my memory.
Are these countries culturally more into games or RTS or StarCraft than others? Am I just imagining that those countries have a higher number of the top players right now?
I'd expect the US, France, Russia, the UK, Italy, Japan, Australia, China (though I don't know what rules there are in China around these games), Brazil, Spain, etc. to be putting equal numbers of people into the conversation for "best SC2 player."
Sweden is especially surprising just based on the population difference between them and these other countries. Why Sweden and not Austria, Switzerland, or Israel?
If I'm not wrong, what is it about those countries that have them producing so many good players per capita right now?
EDIT: Obviously, Korea is a special case, and I understand that one. Uh, why did you list Canada as 2nd? What Canadian has won anything besides HuK, Drewbie, and TT1? Slush and KiwiKaki haven't won a single thing since beta, and there are no other good Canadians really. Also, Germany? TLO and Socke are the only good Germans that have won anything. USA has IdrA, iNkA, Select, KawaiiRice, Machine, PainUser, and a bunch of other strong players. I think outside of Asia - Ukraine and Sweden are definitely the top nations, followed by USA.
Don't forget Nony! Or Tyler...or Teeler...whatever haha
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On August 26 2010 01:36 Zinbiel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 01:24 SayTT wrote:
I think its the competative mindset we have in sweden, It's the same in other "real" sports as well, sweden is very good in comparison to how many ppl live here. Yea and it was the same inte both bw and wc3. Some of you might remember the names of; saft, willet, trek, daaman, kenka etc... I call bs on this as a fellow swede. We are the pinnacle of "not-competitive mindset". We even have something called "jantelagen" which is basically a name for the fact that unless you're average in sweden we don't like you (goes for both sub-par and excelling people). We do however have a lot of great gamers which has I would attribute more to our connectivity and gamer-culture.
Yeah that statement made me giggle too but since I'm not Swedish I didn't want to say anything.
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On August 26 2010 01:33 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 01:06 iD.NicKy wrote:On August 26 2010 01:02 retro-noob wrote:On August 26 2010 01:01 iD.NicKy wrote:
sweden because of their internet connection back then.
germany because germans are always good at any sport.
korea for the obvious reason
Ukrainian have some top top players but not a lot of good players.
Canada no idea why, maybe because they were french at first 8) What's it like in France, Spain, and the UK? France, Spain, Uk has a lot of good players but only few top players let's say demuslim/dapollo for UK, Lucifron for spain, sarens/moman for france How can you call dapollo good when he's literally played in 0 tournaments? Just because he lives in Korea and gets interviewed by Artosis doesn't make him good. Also MoMaN isn't good , just because he bashes on newb French players and has a bunch of random french-only events added to his GG.net acc to get to 1100 points doesn't make him good. Check out his match list and see how many other European players he beats (basically 0).
Agreed on Dapollo part. I think I've seen like 1 game of his. He needs to play and win something before I consider him decent enough to be thought of when I think of UK players.
Although MoMaN is awesome and I <3 him so I can't be rational and take the time to look at his tournaments. 
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On August 26 2010 01:31 Full wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 01:02 ckw wrote:On August 26 2010 00:56 Full wrote:
Some countries are more into gaming i assume..
and to be honest, asians are most probably just smarter than other races. Seems that way to me anyway.
So so wrong and kind of offending to me that you say this. They aren't "smarter", their culture is to excel in everything they do and the same goes for a lot of Europe like Germany. Is there any proof of this? Don't try and inform unless you have actual evidence to back it up. If something is offensive, it certainly does not make it false. I believe that many asians are genetically smarter than other races, or atleast find it easier to learn. but i'm not trying to inform you, im merely giving my opinion.
so basically you're doing the same thing he did except trying to defend yourself from criticism by calling it an opinion
well done
theyre not smarter they just work harder
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On August 26 2010 00:56 retro-noob wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 00:54 infinity21 wrote:
Canadians are obviously genetically superior to other countries. Canada is good because it's hardwired into the language. "One, eh?, two, eh?, three, eh?..."
LOLL this is win!
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LOL in soviet sweden, the state pays you for going to school *_-
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Hey Idra, since you actually play Europeans and Asians and Americans, can you give us an opinion of which regions are better/worse than other regions?
I am interested in this.
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This thread sadly goes in a "ma country is betta than your's".
btw in france people mainly see video games as the evil, when i told they are progamer who live with playing video games this retards say that's not fair to be paid for playing blabla.
By the way i goes on germany sometimes and people seems like more "supporting" video games.
I think that korea > sweden > rest of the world is the right "world ladder of esport"
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Swedish people are just clearly superior compared to all other countries
Or... it is because its freaking cold here at the winter which means there are plenty of time to game on without missing sun time that we miss either way. You can only be throwing snow balls on eachother outside for some hours, then it gets boring. That is my explanation.
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