Dimaga may switch to Terran - Page 45

On August 17 2010 08:46 Keap wrote:
Anyone else noticed every T's response is exactly the same?

"Well, I'm not saying zerg players suck, or saying terran is fine, I'm just saying it's up to you guys to pull a new strategy out of your asses to counter the 'imbalance'"

You kids don't think Dimaga, Idra, Seth, and Machine tried everything hundreds of times before reaching their conclusion?

On August 17 2010 08:40 Gauldoth wrote:
I think zerg need to start thinking out of the box, in a really basic level protoss are supposed to have the strongest units, but also a high cost on each of them, Terran is supposed to be balanced in between, not that strong of units and not that expensive but not that weak either and zerg are supposed to have weaker units than the rest, they are supposed to relay on numbers and mobility.

But there are a number of factors that can modify this and btw I think are not being taken into consideration. Maps is a big example of that, i remember 2008/2009 in BW protoss completely dominating with the so called 7 protoss dragons and some part of it was the protoss slightly favored maps back then. I mean look at the map pool right now, as a zerg you need to pray to play on crap station (yea i said crap) and metalopolis maybe, considering i dont see too many torneys using desert oasis. Maybe now delta cuadrant could add to the zerg maps, i havent played it much but i have that feeling that tells me its a zerg map

Also ppl say that zergs are doing bad in all servers and well, a big part of that is even at the beta there were not so many zerg players to begin with, even back then the mayority were terran so its kind of obvius terran is gonna develop sooner in any way possible.

Dont get me wrong, im not saying ZvT is totally balanced, maybe it needs some small changes but to be honest im not a follower of DIMAGA because i didnt like his style of play with the zerg neither back then in the beta nor now, in fact i think i like TLO zerg play better, i mean zergling/baneling(optional)/infestor into ultralisk or broodlord against Terran i liked a lot.

zerg can instantly have 3 larva to use every 2 minutes and they STACK that means that in a 50 vs 50 food against every race if you've been active with your queens you can lose everything and have it back instantly, they have nidus network and OL as transports and movement speed increased on creep and several ways to spread the creep on the map which makes it the most movile race by far, they only use 1 structure to build units, you can actually have every tech building and choose what to do acording to what your opponent does (assuming you have the economy to support it of course) but it is also something bad because you have to choose between workers and units, they have the easiest way to scout, have map control and control of xel naga towers (OLs and zerglings)

Anyway, botton line.. try thinking maybe there is something you havent tried in those match ups, maybe you can do something diffent even at a pro level, maybe you will all see something you havent seen before

On August 17 2010 08:59 Gauldoth wrote:


I, actually, dont.. how much time did it take to korean pro gamers to develop strategies? they've been playing SCBW for more than 10 years, always evolving and you are telling me that idra has it all figured out in 2 weeks? seriusly come on. I understand DIMAGA tho in his decition to switch races, he has to be better because its his job, if zerg isnt working then something else should be but that doesnt imply terran are OP or zerg are weak.

On August 17 2010 10:36 _Air_ wrote:


Dude.


You realize your saying that the pros who play zerg and cannot consistently win, which then puts their job on the line and in turn forces them to learn a new race, are probably just playing their race wrong and try out new ideas such as abusing mobility?.


I hope your kidding because their is a legitimate problem with ZvT.

On August 17 2010 11:19 Gauldoth wrote:


No, im not saying they are playing it wrong. im saying evolve

On August 17 2010 02:21 jlr5175 wrote:

How is it imbalanced in favor of Protoss? Explain. Collossi are countered by super-range Vikings and with the Mech support range that Terran usually brings around its bio ball and ghosts you cant directly push. High Templars are great and all but they wont save you from the supreme range of the mech and the constant medivac healing/scv repairing that terran usually encompasses within its army. Immortals are powerful yes but when they get focus fired they go down quick. Void Rays are OP in numbers and UP in smaller numbers. The whole charging up thing is a bad idea and doesnt fit into RTS play at all. Just make the Void ray a regular damn piece of aircraft and make its damage stay at the same level instead of raising overtime that it's charging.