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leeznon
United States255 Posts
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 18 2010 05:15 No_eL wrote: +1 a BIG RED BUTTON its pressed for a week or so.. and now that stupid offline fix. Why do people pretend that 2 weeks is a reasonable time-frame for a balance patch post-release? They can't release knee-jerk fixes like in beta anymore. It would cause a huge shitstorm if release patches had the instability/inconsistency of beta patches. Even if they started working on it the day the game hit shelves, it would probably take 3-4 weeks of thorough testing before a patch as major as what's needed to fix ZvT could even be feasibly released. | ||
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Pking
Sweden142 Posts
On August 17 2010 11:34 drewbie.root wrote: guys stop arguing, it is a fact that terran > zerg ATM if the terran plays correctly. No its not. Its popular opinion at this point but until we see some real proof showing imbalances, its just speculation. Maybe its reasonable to believe, I'd certainly put weight on the opinion of pros saying Zerg is weak v Terran, but its not in any way a fact. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33723 Posts
On August 18 2010 05:04 heishe wrote: lmao? that sounds completely ridiculous. It would be understandable if he would've done that against a protoss or something, but switching to terran against a terran and then owning him in mirror match is really ridiculous. BOTH players switched races -_- Dimaga was down 0-2 ZvT, won a TvZ, then won a ZvT, then won a TvZ. He didn't beat Demuslim in TvT -- | ||
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Doctorasul
Romania1145 Posts
I want to see players of all races take the challenge and commit to persevering and overcoming any (alleged) imbalances and win nonetheless, wouldn't that be a breath of fresh air after all this stale, slightly rancid complaining? Isn't that closer to the spirit of competitiveness which you all supposedly have? | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On August 18 2010 08:01 Pking wrote: No its not. Its popular opinion at this point but until we see some real proof showing imbalances, its just speculation. Maybe its reasonable to believe, I'd certainly put weight on the opinion of pros saying Zerg is weak v Terran, but its not in any way a fact. If a player of drewbies level says his own race is imbalanced in the matchup, who the fuck are you to deny it. Seriously, I can just as easily claim that only our solar system exists in the universe SO WHAT IF SCIENTISTS TELL ME OTHERWISE THATS JUST POPULAR OPINION. i didnt see any other fuckin solar systems face to face yo | ||
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jdr_
United States78 Posts
I understand that as a mid-level diamond player, any game I lose is because I didn't play as well as I could have played. But since I don't have enough time to practice more than an hour or 2 a day, I'm never going to be flawless, I'm going to make mistakes and correcting those mistakes is all I have to do to win the next game. If at the very top level the matchups are imbalanced and Dimaga wants to switch, that's fine by me. I think once planetary fortresses get removed from the game, and the preigniter upgrade gets nuked/removed, suddenly the matchup will be balanced again. I realize a bunch of retards are going to say HURP DUPR DATS NOT EVEN WUTS WRONG WIFF DA MATCHUP, but yes, paper lings are the core problem right now, if lings were actually useful in the late game as they were in broodwar, this problem wouldn't exist. | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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EliteAzn
United States661 Posts
On August 18 2010 21:37 jdr_ wrote: If at the very top level the matchups are imbalanced and Dimaga wants to switch, that's fine by me. I think once planetary fortresses get removed from the game, and the preigniter upgrade gets nuked/removed, suddenly the matchup will be balanced again. Oh god no no no no no no no no no no.... Those two are fine by me. There is absolutely no reason to remove the igniter (even as a Z players). It is one of those key upgrades that are just needed. As for the PF, that's pretty key in all matchups. I just have fun having a bunch of scvs around it repairing it and killing off un-micro'ed attackers. Those are just two things that I believe shouldn't be touched...however.......... | ||
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Gunman_csz
United Arab Emirates492 Posts
On August 18 2010 19:42 Liquid`Jinro wrote: BOTH players switched races -_- Dimaga was down 0-2 ZvT, won a TvZ, then won a ZvT, then won a TvZ. He didn't beat Demuslim in TvT -- You keep stating that you can't beat Dimaga thus this matchup is not broken, but you are far from being a top European player or a top Terran in Europe. And perhaps have you thought that it might you and your understanding of the matchup! The "amount" of Terrans winning / (finishs at the top) of the tournaments. The "amount" of Terrans at the top 200s of each server, even though Protoss is the most played race overall. The amount of Terran who openly state that match-up is broken. The amount of Terran who state their best match-up is TvZ and worst match-up being TvT(ROFL). BTW Goodluck to you in korea, hopefully STC and Ensare can teach you some tricks  | ||
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theSAiNT
United States726 Posts
Good attitude. Since you can't do much about it, even if it is not balanced, best to knuckle down and play your best. | ||
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Tergeron
United States66 Posts
On August 19 2010 01:06 theSAiNT wrote: Just watching IEM match of TLO vs Madfrog. Not going to spoil the result here but the interviewer asked both players (and lots of other players) about what they felt about TvZ (im)balance. It was great to hear Madfrog's reply: 'I have nothing to say.' When asked again, he said 'I don't like to whine.' Good attitude. Since you can't do much about it, even if it is not balanced, best to knuckle down and play your best. He has to act professional, if I were him I would of pulled my hair out because the matches were complete bullshit. I feel bad for Zergs. | ||
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rS.Sinatra
Canada785 Posts
honestly whoever came up with healing drop ships has got to be publicly executed. his family should be charged for the cost of the bullet and an obelisk should be erected on top of his grave with the following written on it: "For harsh crimes against the Protoss and Zerg, this will forever be a reminder that discrimination against other species will not be tolerated" Amen... | ||
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Carthage
105 Posts
On August 18 2010 21:32 TheAntZ wrote: If a player of drewbies level says his own race is imbalanced in the matchup, who the fuck are you to deny it. Seriously, I can just as easily claim that only our solar system exists in the universe SO WHAT IF SCIENTISTS TELL ME OTHERWISE THATS JUST POPULAR OPINION. i didnt see any other fuckin solar systems face to face yo Please focus on what is being said rather than who is saying it. | ||
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EppE
United States221 Posts
On August 19 2010 01:15 rS.Sinatra wrote: lewl... actually I switched to Terran for a couple ladder games too... I was tired of the Terran with his 5 healing drop ships dropping shit and killing my nexus at 5 different bases at THE SAME TIME and preventing me from attacking with his wall of siege tanks spread around his base... honestly whoever came up with healing drop ships has got to be publicly executed. his family should be charged for the cost of the bullet and an obelisk should be erected on top of his grave with the following written on it: "For harsh crimes against the Protoss and Zerg, this will forever be a reminder that discrimination against other species will not be tolerated" Amen... Could it atleast be some sort of Xel-Naga watch tower in honor of a Hybred?  | ||
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gillon
Sweden1578 Posts
On August 19 2010 00:14 Tenks wrote: I watched all those VODs and the argument is moot because both players played like absolute shit when they off-raced. Dimaga's Terran was laughable and Muslim's Zerg wasn't much better. That proves nothing when they both play so incompetent. This, Dimaga beating a offracing Z with T tells you absolutely nothing except that Dimaga probably has played more T than demuslim has played Z. | ||
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Pking
Sweden142 Posts
On August 18 2010 21:32 TheAntZ wrote: If a player of drewbies level says his own race is imbalanced in the matchup, who the fuck are you to deny it. Seriously, I can just as easily claim that only our solar system exists in the universe SO WHAT IF SCIENTISTS TELL ME OTHERWISE THATS JUST POPULAR OPINION. i didnt see any other fuckin solar systems face to face yo I'm not denying it so... fail. Also random poster on the internet != scientist. Also scientists does actual research. Anyway, you completely missed the point. Try again kthx. | ||
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NeSeNVi
67 Posts
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eivind
111 Posts
On August 18 2010 20:21 Doctorasul wrote: Maybe T really is overpowered vs Z, but this trend of players blaming everything but themselves for their losses is getting old. I want to see players of all races take the challenge and commit to persevering and overcoming any (alleged) imbalances and win nonetheless, wouldn't that be a breath of fresh air after all this stale, slightly rancid complaining? Isn't that closer to the spirit of competitiveness which you all supposedly have? Are we allowed to discuss balance without complaining? Most people say <anything> that is against their opinion = complaining/whining. People still play Zerg for a reason, even if they think it is imbalanced. Thus you already see what you "want" to see. | ||
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