EPTZergs will start playing mutas more often and use their great dropcapabilities to win games instead of dying in a 200/200 supply fight.
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DennyR
Germany379 Posts
Zergs will start playing mutas more often and use their great dropcapabilities to win games instead of dying in a 200/200 supply fight. No Iam not playing terran... | ||
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Gunman_csz
United Arab Emirates492 Posts
On July 20 2010 10:05 DooMDash wrote: I would also make the argument that a combo of broodlords, curropters, and ultras is pretty hard to beat. Now, obviously that is EXTREMELY situational but I think thats probably the best 200/200 army ATM. What game mode are you playing? certainly not 1vs1.. How they hell do your zerg opponent get currupterrs/broodlords/ultras combo? BGH much? And if one were to create the hypothetical "best army" then it would be 200/200 mass Thor/BC which is really common in 4v4/3v3. Not saying that is imbalanced because that never happens in solo, nor does your imaginary "corrupter/broodlord/ultra" combo. | ||
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DooMDash
United States1015 Posts
On July 20 2010 10:17 Latham wrote: I did in the last two days of the beta. Was diamond 76 when switching to T. After playing the same Ps that I couldn't beat as Z I beat them with T and advanced to top 30 in my division. Besdies, there is already a thread showing Zs are in the minority now. I'm a Z player and I think other Z players are just whiners. Z is great... I don't understand whats wrong with people. | ||
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DooMDash
United States1015 Posts
On July 20 2010 10:19 Gunman_csz wrote: What game mode are you playing? certainly not 1vs1.. How they hell do your zerg opponent get currupterrs/broodlords/ultras combo? BGH much? And if one were to create the hypothetical "best army" then it would be 200/200 mass Thor/BC which is really common in 4v4/3v3. Not saying that is imbalanced because that never happens in solo, nor does your imaginary "corrupter/broodlord/ultra" combo. 1v1 bro. I was just playing theory craft for a second. I didn't say it was realistic, did you read that part? | ||
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Jenslyn87
Denmark527 Posts
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link0
United States1071 Posts
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Gunman_csz
United Arab Emirates492 Posts
On July 20 2010 10:21 DooMDash wrote: 1v1 bro. I was just playing theory craft for a second. I didn't say it was realistic, did you read that part? Theorycraft, please tell me again in "theory" how a zerg is suppose to get that in that position. just stating any bs and labeling as "theorycraft" is not the way to debate. Let me give you a suggestion, rather than your previous combo, I suggest you try this combo instead. "supperman,batman,corruptors". | ||
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hEndO
United States124 Posts
But..maybe terran is overpowered. Im not a balancing expert. But i would like to think blizzard got it pretty close with all the testing. At least to the extent that Terran OP shoudlnt be shouted at the end of every game Edit: quote directly related to post =p | ||
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DooMDash
United States1015 Posts
On July 20 2010 10:26 Gunman_csz wrote: Theorycraft, please tell me again in "theory" how a zerg is suppose to get that in that position. just stating any bs and labeling as "theorycraft" is not the way to debate. Let me give you a suggestion, rather than your previous combo, I suggest you try this combo instead. "supperman,batman,corruptors". OK anyway, I still think Z is the best even excluding theory craft. | ||
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Narayan
Canada80 Posts
I vote Zerg as the weakess for many reasons... number one would be the lack of anti air early game which can and will be exposed even more once the game gets released. Their early game units can't compete with Toss or Terran either... Lings and Roachs just dont stand a chance to MMM or Stalkers/Zeos and Sentries. They also have no variety with building placement like the other races (i.e blocking chokes, offense towering etc). I think building placement will become a bigger issue once the game goes live as well. Terran are for sure the strongest race... best tier 1 unit in marines, best tier 2 ground unit in tanks and best tier 3 air unit in BC. They are also the most versatile race out there and can counter in a pintch. Also the hardest to crack defensively by far... 2 tanks on a ridge with site against a ground army hitting a choke is just messy. | ||
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DooMDash
United States1015 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On July 20 2010 10:01 GreEny K wrote: I still disagree, just because a unit deals more damage doesn't make them amazing or invincible. Were tanks amazing in SC1? Yes, but a T1 unit such as zealots beat tanks pretty efficiently. If a Zergling did 50 dmg, yes, yes it would make them amazing/invincible. There's no arguing that point really. Mass Zergling would even rape mass colossus/tank. | ||
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Tone_
United Kingdom554 Posts
So here: Terran isn't the best race, it's the easiest. Oh you siege up and outrange god? 10x more difficult for any other player now immediately as long as the t has 1 thor in the mix. Oh yeah, Thors. AA slash all over your shit, damn. Zerg aren't the worst race. It's relatively easy to get some BO's going and start macroing like a whore, but then you still get roflstomped by a meching T / A SINGLE COLOSSUS. So I see the point here. However there are those games when you get constantly harassed and then just raped by a decent Z. Zerg isn't "different" or "worse" than swarmy BW swarm. You don't have dark swarm no, shutup about it already. Zerg is still decent, but yes, quite difficult. Oh and macroing queens is the easiest thing anyone has ever had to do in a computer game, whether its through wireframes, a single control group of them all (the obvious choice) or separate control groups with each queen having a name and backstory, it's still easy. Protoss: I'd say (IMO) the most fun race due to the differences and varied range of possible units. Even if some are crap cough fleetbeacon onwards. Voted down here probably because of the mass void terrible players. Apologies, don't usually rant. *I've gone from Protoss to Zerg to Protoss throughout beta, still dislike terran. It's too slow and clumpy. | ||
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Gunman_csz
United Arab Emirates492 Posts
On July 20 2010 09:39 DooMDash wrote: Best: Zerg Easiest for me to win with. Winning with Terran is just harder. Worst: Terran Hardest for me to win with. I love them but they are hard to play. On July 20 2010 10:19 DooMDash wrote: I'm a Z player and I think other Z players are just whiners. Z is great... I don't understand whats wrong with people. I seriously don't get you. you state that you are a zerg player, and Terran is the hardest race for you to play with. Now Common sense dictates that you would obviously win more with main race than with your offrace right? Or are you now a disguised "cough" Terran player? who clearly can't tolerate all the terran hate, so you go out of your way to bombard such threads with multiple posts which don't make any sense. I would accept what you said for truth if you were a random player, but no you are not, as you claim your main race is zerg, and it is sooo easy. Then may I suggest you something? Mind playing at your goddamn own level? And this is not even the worst part to your spam worthy posts. all your posts have one similarity/ you are desperately trying to inject the notion that terran is an overly weak race. | ||
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ta2
125 Posts
I would change: Thor loses splash for air and maybe gets slight buff to single-target air damage. Tank siege mode 45 dmg (from 50), range 11 (from 13) and deploy time 6 (from 3.5) | ||
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hEndO
United States124 Posts
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Anfere
Canada231 Posts
I voted for Terran Best and Zerg worst, because of how easy it is for Terran to win its game compared to Zerg which is pretty skill heave. I think that zergs should be recompensed for all the efforts it takes to perform in par with terrans an protoss, and not be penalized, which is the case currently. Zerg just need some tweak to roachs or Terrans need a nerf, name you'r solution. Either war, all the races are really great and the game will keep getting better and better with time. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On July 20 2010 10:40 Tone_ wrote: Lol such a reflection in the results here of the distribution of players online. So here: Terran isn't the best race, it's the easiest. Oh you siege up and outrange god? 10x more difficult for any other player now immediately as long as the t has 1 thor in the mix. Oh yeah, Thors. AA slash all over your shit, damn. Zerg aren't the worst race. It's relatively easy to get some BO's going and start macroing like a whore, but then you still get roflstomped by a meching T / A SINGLE COLOSSUS. So I see the point here. However there are those games when you get constantly harassed and then just raped by a decent Z. Zerg isn't "different" or "worse" than swarmy BW swarm. You don't have dark swarm no, shutup about it already. Zerg is still decent, but yes, quite difficult. Oh and macroing queens is the easiest thing anyone has ever had to do in a computer game, whether its through wireframes, a single control group of them all (the obvious choice) or separate control groups with each queen having a name and backstory, it's still easy. Protoss: I'd say (IMO) the most fun race due to the differences and varied range of possible units. Even if some are crap cough fleetbeacon onwards. Voted down here probably because of the mass void terrible players. Apologies, don't usually rant. *I've gone from Protoss to Zerg to Protoss throughout beta, still dislike terran. It's too slow and clumpy. It's nearly undeniably that while having the least strategic depth, spawn larvae is the most difficult mechanic to maintain, simply because if you forget ---> you lose it permanently. You forget to mule, you drop two. You forget to chrono, you chrono something else as well. "Zerg isn't "different" or "worse" than swarmy BW swarm." If you think they aren't different you're utterly clueless. Zerg is now reliant on having slow units that don't swarm at all, in fact the only time you "swarm" is when you defend. Roaches/Hydra have no "swarmy" feeling, and ultras are massive and clunky as opposed to rapidly moving, which is also not swarmy. If you think they aren't OP or UP, that's fine, but to claim they aren't "different" in your rant is utterly ridiculous. You also can't macro via wireframes, but please, continue your senseless rant in another post. | ||
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Tone_
United Kingdom554 Posts
On July 20 2010 10:45 Anfere wrote: All races are great, there is no best and worst in my opinion because both 3 races are fun to play, interesting and have a lot of different little things that makes them special. I voted for Terran Best and Zerg worst, because of how easy it is for Terran to win its game compared to Zerg which is pretty skill heave. I think that zergs should be recompensed for all the efforts it takes to perform in par with terrans an protoss, and not be penalized, which is the case currently. Zerg just need some tweak to roachs or Terrans need a nerf, name you'r solution. Either war, all the races are really great and the game will keep getting better and better with time. These are the exact reasons I voted Zerg best and Terran worst. | ||
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Buffy
Sweden665 Posts
Give it time and it will fix itself or be patched lul ^^ | ||
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