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On March 12 2010 06:22 FREEloss_ca wrote:
The problem with the game being in 3D is that the camera creates illusions where units on cliffs look bigger than the same units that aren't on cliffs; this especially applies to flying units.
That and the fact that some units just ARE bigger (Thors, Ultralisks, Colossi). If they're going to go for the whole "realism" thing and make units somewhat proportional (though I still don't understand how a Thor is the size of a Carrier or Command Center...), they need to increase the zoom distance to compensate.
Case in point, the zoom hack is a pretty big advantage to anyone using it, and a lot of people feel the screen doesn't zoom out enough by default. The temptation is there, and I'm willing to bet the lack of additional zoom by Blizzard will cause some people to resort to hacks to get what they feel should have been there to begin with.
It's clear people want this feature just from the fact that there's a hack out there for it, which has been downloaded over a thousand times according to the source. That's a huge chunk of players in the beta using it. Might as well increase the distance in a legit way (since a legit zoom increase doesn't come bundled with a maphack and everything else), and if needed lock the zoom to a certain level for ladder games.
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imagine how difficult it would be to distinguish and control small units like zerglings or marines. it's difficult as it is now, i couldn't imagine playing when they are even smaller. i think that's probably one of the reasons why blizzard capped the zoom so people wouldn't complain at X zoom they can't see anything and there's not point at all to include it because it's unplayable.
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On March 12 2010 02:41 Sere wrote:
Most WoW players are too stupid to take on a computer and will just give up on the game after they can't beat the first campaign level.
Do you like raging against the world?
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On March 12 2010 02:01 MadLag wrote:
and how the hell u can tell some one is zooming out ( LOOOL :DD) if u even dont have replay -_- not to mention that this is worthy shit unless u have build in maphack to remove fog of war ;D honstly i think u are just bad and come with some cry shit excusess for lose -_-
any way if u know he hacks u meet him 9 times and know he drops u at the end why the fuck u dont leave earlier and have replay ?? then report him to blizz and then PROFIT !!
how come new members don't seem to know that posting like this gets you banned?
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On March 12 2010 06:49 Simplistik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 02:41 Sere wrote:
Most WoW players are too stupid to take on a computer and will just give up on the game after they can't beat the first campaign level. Do you like raging against the world?
I take it you're one of those WoW players?
You act like it's some big secret that the overwhelming majority of WoW players can't tie their own shoes. Thirty seconds on the forums is enough to prove that.
As someone who's been in one of the top raiding guilds in the US for the last two years, I can honestly say the hardest part of that game is finding 24 other people who aren't braindead. We're talking a game where you can macro everything to a single button and spam it to do what you need to do, and STILL people can't do that properly. If you won't call that stupidity, then what?
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I have a hard time as it is killing a changeling on the current view distance so I don't get this hack that much at all if it exists.
I also fail to believe that 2/3 people are hacking in the gold league, I googled those hacks just to see if they are readily available and couldn't see anything so to believe that 2/3 people hack when you can barely find them is a joke to me.
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Related to this thread: I think blizzard should actually implement zooming out for obs and replays, if it isn't in already. It'll help the observability and help spectators keep track of more things going on at once. Of course, this should be done after figuring out how to prevent exploits that let in-game players do this...
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On March 12 2010 07:35 Pape wrote:
I have a hard time as it is killing a changeling on the current view distance so I don't get this hack that much at all if it exists.
I also fail to believe that 2/3 people are hacking in the gold league, I googled those hacks just to see if they are readily available and couldn't see anything so to believe that 2/3 people hack when you can barely find them is a joke to me.
Google harder next time 
The same 2-3 websites provide about half a dozen different types of hacks, cracked beta clients, and even some tools to make custom maps.
And I feel I should make an amendment to my statement. I'm sure 66% of Gold players don't hack in general. But from my personal experiences, that is the case. As an example, I went 41-0 yesterday. So far today, I am 27-16. Two losses I was just being stupid, but the other 14 losses were all due to maphackers, and I had at least 10 wins against hackers as well (and not just random players... I beat two different #1 Gold players and neither of them scouted all game, but countered me perfectly).
Likewise, on my other account in a Platinum league I have yet to see a hacker. That doesn't mean I haven't played any, but if I did they were smart enough to still scout and not make it blatantly obvious.
My guess is that a fair amount of Platinum players hack as well, but they're good enough on their own to know how to cover it up well. Players in other leagues, however, lack the core gameplay skills, and thus end up letting the hack play most of the game for them, leading to obvious examples of the hack being used (ie, never scouting).
I know people like to think things aren't as bad as they really are, but at times they just are. Nobody wanted to believe Testie hacked back in the day. Nobody wants to believe there are hackers on ICCUP (anti hack launcher, right?) when in reality from personal experience being an admin for 6 months, I banned countless people for hacking; including at least 5-6 A-/A+ players.
Point being, it happens more than any of us want to admit it does.
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I can zoom farther out by having black bars on the top and bottom of my screen does that count
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to be honest i liked zooming IN, when i played the default was pretty big.. i zoomed into 1024.. feels better
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They already have auto worker and auto harvest as well, i guess the dumbed down mechanics wasn't enough for them. Pathetic!
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On March 12 2010 12:36 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
I can zoom farther out by having black bars on the top and bottom of my screen does that count
No, it sounds like you're just switching to a widescreen resolution which many users have by default.
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On March 12 2010 06:26 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 03:22 Koffiegast wrote:
I play on a 36" TV on 1920x1080. The only issue I have with it is that the minimap tends to be all the way in the corner, making it harder for me to pay attention to the minimap as I have to move my head to get an appropriate view of it. Why would you play such a beautiful game on a shitty tv? Unless your tv is 120HZ I don't get why you would.
Refresh rate has never been an issue. And its hardly any shitty tv tbh.
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On March 12 2010 12:14 Sere wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 07:35 Pape wrote:
I have a hard time as it is killing a changeling on the current view distance so I don't get this hack that much at all if it exists.
I also fail to believe that 2/3 people are hacking in the gold league, I googled those hacks just to see if they are readily available and couldn't see anything so to believe that 2/3 people hack when you can barely find them is a joke to me. Google harder next time The same 2-3 websites provide about half a dozen different types of hacks, cracked beta clients, and even some tools to make custom maps. And I feel I should make an amendment to my statement. I'm sure 66% of Gold players don't hack in general. But from my personal experiences, that is the case. As an example, I went 41-0 yesterday. So far today, I am 27-16. Two losses I was just being stupid, but the other 14 losses were all due to maphackers, and I had at least 10 wins against hackers as well (and not just random players... I beat two different #1 Gold players and neither of them scouted all game, but countered me perfectly). Likewise, on my other account in a Platinum league I have yet to see a hacker. That doesn't mean I haven't played any, but if I did they were smart enough to still scout and not make it blatantly obvious. My guess is that a fair amount of Platinum players hack as well, but they're good enough on their own to know how to cover it up well. Players in other leagues, however, lack the core gameplay skills, and thus end up letting the hack play most of the game for them, leading to obvious examples of the hack being used (ie, never scouting). I know people like to think things aren't as bad as they really are, but at times they just are. Nobody wanted to believe Testie hacked back in the day. Nobody wants to believe there are hackers on ICCUP (anti hack launcher, right?) when in reality from personal experience being an admin for 6 months, I banned countless people for hacking; including at least 5-6 A-/A+ players. Point being, it happens more than any of us want to admit it does.
So you're one of those guys that whine "hacker" everytime they lose. Terrible attitude.
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Wow, I hope no one is believing anything Sere is saying. There is no way anything that guy has said is true. He seems like the typical noob who accuses everyone who beats him of hacking and is just pulling numbers out of his ass (41-0 lol).
I am pretty confident blizzard will deal with hacking much better then they did in BW and that it won't be an issue at high levels (Replay POV will help with this even if blizzard doesn't come up with a good solution)
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On March 13 2010 00:38 Alur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 12:36 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
I can zoom farther out by having black bars on the top and bottom of my screen does that count No, it sounds like you're just switching to a widescreen resolution which many users have by default.
romanian?
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Just remove the zoom option
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On March 12 2010 12:14 Sere wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 07:35 Pape wrote:
I have a hard time as it is killing a changeling on the current view distance so I don't get this hack that much at all if it exists.
I also fail to believe that 2/3 people are hacking in the gold league, I googled those hacks just to see if they are readily available and couldn't see anything so to believe that 2/3 people hack when you can barely find them is a joke to me. Google harder next time The same 2-3 websites provide about half a dozen different types of hacks, cracked beta clients, and even some tools to make custom maps. And I feel I should make an amendment to my statement. I'm sure 66% of Gold players don't hack in general. But from my personal experiences, that is the case. As an example, I went 41-0 yesterday. So far today, I am 27-16. Two losses I was just being stupid, but the other 14 losses were all due to maphackers, and I had at least 10 wins against hackers as well (and not just random players... I beat two different #1 Gold players and neither of them scouted all game, but countered me perfectly). Likewise, on my other account in a Platinum league I have yet to see a hacker. That doesn't mean I haven't played any, but if I did they were smart enough to still scout and not make it blatantly obvious. My guess is that a fair amount of Platinum players hack as well, but they're good enough on their own to know how to cover it up well. Players in other leagues, however, lack the core gameplay skills, and thus end up letting the hack play most of the game for them, leading to obvious examples of the hack being used (ie, never scouting). I know people like to think things aren't as bad as they really are, but at times they just are. Nobody wanted to believe Testie hacked back in the day. Nobody wants to believe there are hackers on ICCUP (anti hack launcher, right?) when in reality from personal experience being an admin for 6 months, I banned countless people for hacking; including at least 5-6 A-/A+ players. Point being, it happens more than any of us want to admit it does.
Lol you can't just go throwing accusations around you like that. Maybe post a replay pack of those 14 "obvious" maphackers that beat you?
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On March 13 2010 02:08 FortuneSyn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 12:14 Sere wrote:On March 12 2010 07:35 Pape wrote:
I have a hard time as it is killing a changeling on the current view distance so I don't get this hack that much at all if it exists.
I also fail to believe that 2/3 people are hacking in the gold league, I googled those hacks just to see if they are readily available and couldn't see anything so to believe that 2/3 people hack when you can barely find them is a joke to me. Google harder next time The same 2-3 websites provide about half a dozen different types of hacks, cracked beta clients, and even some tools to make custom maps. And I feel I should make an amendment to my statement. I'm sure 66% of Gold players don't hack in general. But from my personal experiences, that is the case. As an example, I went 41-0 yesterday. So far today, I am 27-16. Two losses I was just being stupid, but the other 14 losses were all due to maphackers, and I had at least 10 wins against hackers as well (and not just random players... I beat two different #1 Gold players and neither of them scouted all game, but countered me perfectly). Likewise, on my other account in a Platinum league I have yet to see a hacker. That doesn't mean I haven't played any, but if I did they were smart enough to still scout and not make it blatantly obvious. My guess is that a fair amount of Platinum players hack as well, but they're good enough on their own to know how to cover it up well. Players in other leagues, however, lack the core gameplay skills, and thus end up letting the hack play most of the game for them, leading to obvious examples of the hack being used (ie, never scouting). I know people like to think things aren't as bad as they really are, but at times they just are. Nobody wanted to believe Testie hacked back in the day. Nobody wants to believe there are hackers on ICCUP (anti hack launcher, right?) when in reality from personal experience being an admin for 6 months, I banned countless people for hacking; including at least 5-6 A-/A+ players. Point being, it happens more than any of us want to admit it does. So you're one of those guys that whine "hacker" everytime they lose. Terrible attitude.
I'm one of those guys that has enough common sense to know that when somebody who never scouts but moves his units precisely to pick off any drops, expansions, or scouting that I do... he's not legit.
I'm going to assume you've hacked at one point in your life, thus why you're so overly defensive in regards to the subject.
Case in point, I mentioned that I won at least ten games against hackers as well. I guess I whine "hacker" when I win, too? Or maybe I just call it like it is, and you're just looking to start drama.
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On March 13 2010 03:34 Sere wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2010 02:08 FortuneSyn wrote:On March 12 2010 12:14 Sere wrote:On March 12 2010 07:35 Pape wrote:
I have a hard time as it is killing a changeling on the current view distance so I don't get this hack that much at all if it exists.
I also fail to believe that 2/3 people are hacking in the gold league, I googled those hacks just to see if they are readily available and couldn't see anything so to believe that 2/3 people hack when you can barely find them is a joke to me. Google harder next time The same 2-3 websites provide about half a dozen different types of hacks, cracked beta clients, and even some tools to make custom maps. And I feel I should make an amendment to my statement. I'm sure 66% of Gold players don't hack in general. But from my personal experiences, that is the case. As an example, I went 41-0 yesterday. So far today, I am 27-16. Two losses I was just being stupid, but the other 14 losses were all due to maphackers, and I had at least 10 wins against hackers as well (and not just random players... I beat two different #1 Gold players and neither of them scouted all game, but countered me perfectly). Likewise, on my other account in a Platinum league I have yet to see a hacker. That doesn't mean I haven't played any, but if I did they were smart enough to still scout and not make it blatantly obvious. My guess is that a fair amount of Platinum players hack as well, but they're good enough on their own to know how to cover it up well. Players in other leagues, however, lack the core gameplay skills, and thus end up letting the hack play most of the game for them, leading to obvious examples of the hack being used (ie, never scouting). I know people like to think things aren't as bad as they really are, but at times they just are. Nobody wanted to believe Testie hacked back in the day. Nobody wants to believe there are hackers on ICCUP (anti hack launcher, right?) when in reality from personal experience being an admin for 6 months, I banned countless people for hacking; including at least 5-6 A-/A+ players. Point being, it happens more than any of us want to admit it does. So you're one of those guys that whine "hacker" everytime they lose. Terrible attitude. I'm one of those guys that has enough common sense to know that when somebody who never scouts but moves his units precisely to pick off any drops, expansions, or scouting that I do... he's not legit. I'm going to assume you've hacked at one point in your life, thus why you're so overly defensive in regards to the subject. Case in point, I mentioned that I won at least ten games against hackers as well. I guess I whine "hacker" when I win, too? Or maybe I just call it like it is, and you're just looking to start drama.
So you you're one of those guys that will attack somebody in a completely unrelevant manner for pointing out the obvious flaws in the logic and evidence within your statements. Yeah, you disgust me.
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